FredCDobbs
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Like they would care, or even know you exist.
Don't you realize that they know who all of us are? And they are working hard to force us to think, act, and talk like they do?
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Question for Mr Dobbs, when I am watching one of the "Thin Man" films may I refer to Asta as an "actor"?
You are free, as far as I am concerned, to call Asta anything. I would call Asta a "dog", or a "trained dog".
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I lived 70 years hearing female movie and stage performers called "actresses" by the actresses themselves, and I'm not going to change now just because someone in some big Eastern or West-Coast city or university says I should change. To see what I mean, see the "actor" and "actress" categories listed among the Academy Awards classifications.
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Here is a GREAT opening sequence.....
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ohhh.. lavender is going to be mad - at - you. You're supposed to be on sabbatical. Oh well, I sup-POSE I'll have to give you this one..
Sorry. When he said, "but I don't know the film", I thought he was giving up.
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Ok, I've got it now.
Mr. Imperium (1951)
Thanks for the clues.
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Speaking of one or a group of females, I would always use the term ACTRESSES.
Speaking of a mixed group of "actors", then that would include both males and females. Like "a convention of mailmen" (with women included, of course).
Sometimes I use the term "his/her" when I don't know what "it" is.
But an actress is an actress.
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The fact you say that Cagney never was an 'average Joe' indiacates you agree that he wasn't very natual playing characters.
Don't jive me, James.
I don't want to see a movie about "an average Joe" who acts and talks like "an average Joe". There is no need to watch such a movie, because I can walk down the street and talk to my average friend Joe if I want to hear an average Joe talk.
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Generally speaking, Cagney never was an "average Joe" in a movie. He was different, special, worth watching.
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But in many movies of the 30's Cagney delivers dialog in a very unnatual way, talking way to fast then I assume the average Joe would talk in the situations he was in.
Cagney is not "the average Joe". Cagney is Cagney and he is famous because of it.
Roosevelt was Roosevelt, Truman was Truman, and Nixon was Nixon. These guys were all real and never mumbled like Brando.
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I even know when Directv obtain info from the box.
I never plugged my phone line into the Directv box.
What if the box has a microphone in it?
What if the NSA owns and runs Directv?
Sometimes I get a group of incoming calls, about half hour apart, about 5 times a day, for about a week. When I answer the phone I hear nothing. Nothing at all. I figure that is Directv calling and waiting for a "go" signal from my box. I just say "hello, hello" and then hang up.
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Fred, I don't, in MY lifetime, remember a time when that EVER worked.
I've seen it done in so many movies when I was a kid, that when I finally got cut off in real life, I gave it a try ( it worked for BOGEY and others in the MOVIES!) so, I did that trick and simply got a dial tone. NEVER got the operator!
Sepiatone
I don't think it works with a dial system, since a dial system doesn't need an operator to make the connection.
It worked with a phone that had no dial, because that system required an operator to monitor all of her phone lines and their connections. She got a buzz or a light on a board whenever someone picked up their phone to make a call, and she had to use a cable and plug to make the physical mechanical connection.
An operator in a non-dial system would hear your clicking, but with a dial system, no operator hears any clicking unless you dial "0", and that requires 10 straight clicks to get to the operator. I don't think she hears the 10 clicks, but I think she gets a buzz when the last click takes place.
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Old time acting..... real ice, real snow, real cold, real pain.....
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I may be imagining this, but I seem to remember seeing a film where clicking the cradle could actually call a specific number. I may be confusing this with the party line's bell cranking - or not. There's a lot of that in older films.
Somewhere I lived, I could "dial" a number by clicking the cradle switch the same number of times and the same speed to match telephone rotary dial clicks.
In some towns, years ago, we might pick up our phone and hear other conversations, like in Stanwyck's SORRY WRONG NUMBER, and not any call from a "party line". Just some conversations and numbers at random.
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Hey guys, thanks for the info.
A few years ago I discovered when I got an incoming recorded advertising call, if I hung up and waited four or five seconds, and if I picked the receiver up to make an outgoing call, I would still hear the advertising recording. It wouldn’t let me hang up or get a dial tone.
I finally tried clicking rapidly on the cradle switch, and then I got a dial tone. So that is what I do now whenever I receive an incoming recorded advertising call.
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Such a thing doesn’t work today.
But in old films, when someone loses a phone connection or is hung up on, sometimes he or she will click their cradle switch several times and say, “Hello.... hello..... hello”, and sometimes they will say “Operator.... operator.....I got cut off.... can you get that number back?”
How did this work?
In the old days, a lot of telephone line connections were done manually, with local switchboards (in hotels, apartment houses, and neighborhoods in cities and small towns).
Operators worked at switchboards that had short cables with plugs on them, as many as 200 or more cables and plugs per switchboard. If a telephone didn’t have a dial on it, a person would pick it up and a friendly operator would say, “Number please?” Then the caller would give her the number and she would plug in the in-calling cable to the correct out-going numbered socket.
After being hung-up on, a caller could click the cradle switch several times, and the operator could hear the clicking sound. She could respond to the caller, and if he said he got cut off, the operator could plug in the right connection again and re-ring the connection if necessary.
I wondered about this for years until I finally saw it happen in a film, and the scene just happened to quickly cut to a hotel switchboard operator, while a guy in a hotel room was clicking his receiver switch. The operator heard the clicks and heard him say, “Hello..... hello....... hello”. The operator responded and plugged the same cable back into the same socket in the switchboard and rang the phone line that had just hung up, and the guy got connected again. This system worked for both in-coming and out-going calls, and in-coming or out-going hang-ups.
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"Hey! It's just a movie" is of course an insult to a very powerful art form!
I was making a joke. Sort of like, "Some times a cigar is just a good smoke."
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I saw High Noon many years ago; it wasn't until Maria Cooper Janis invited me to a screening of the restored print, with a panel, that my eyes were opened relative to its anti-McCarthyist message.
See this:
"I still believe High Noon was the best picture of 1952, but the political climate of the nation and the right-wing campaigns after High Noon had enough effect to relegate it to an also-ran status. Popular as it was, it could not overcome the climate in which it was released. Carl Foreman, who wrote it, had by then taken off for England under a cloud of accusations as a result of his political beliefs. Between the time he turned in the script and the time the Academy voted, we all learned that he had been a member of the Communist Party, but anyone who has seen the picture knows that he put no Communist propaganda into the story. If he had tried to do so, I would have taken it out."
By Scott McGee & Jeff Stafford"
http://www.tcm.com/tcmdb/title/24083/High-Noon/articles.html
Hey! It's just a MOVIE!
If anything, it might have been a slightly anti-American film, since no one in town would help the Sheriff, and even the Church men refused to help him. And his religious wife refused at first, but finally renounced her Quaker beliefs and decided to help him.
But lone brave men fighting alone to save a town was a very common Western movie theme in the old days, including the Zorro and Lone Ranger films.
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Just so you know, I thought about using the cigar quote, but resisted!
But of course the people who think High Noon or The Citadel are just about their more surface themes would use Dr. Freud's quote.It's not "The Citadel", it's "The Crucible".
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This is a great movie all the way around.... actors, screenwriter, director, music, story, etc.
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Great classic acting:
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I think it was actually about the secret infiltration of Republicans into small-town America.
Edward G. Robinson represented a volunteer Democrat investigator assigned to find them and track them one at a time, and root them out.
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While I love Myrna Loy and Cary Grant in this film, to me, Melvyn Douglas steals the show.
He also gets one of the best lines of all time: "You've been taken to the cleaners and you
don't even know your pants are off."
Lydecker
Melvyn Douglas was really great, and he was given some great lines. I especially like his casual attitude the next day after he got stranded with Loy overnight, during the rainstorm. That was so funny!
Should actresses be referred to as actors or actresses?
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Good for you.