FredCDobbs

What "production code"? And please quote the clause. Was it the NAB Code, the FCC Code, or which one?

I wonder how much that dog got for that job? It's little details like this that add a lot to a film.

The snow globe is on the left, on the dresser, in front of the old photo of the little girl:

Here's the dog.......

I was delighted when I finally discovered that the Snow Globe in CITIZEN KANE first appears on the dresser of Susan Alexander's apartment, the first night Mr. Kane meets her. And after I discovered that, then I realized that she asked him where he was going and he said he was on the way to a warehouse to locate some items from his early childhood that are stored there. That means the sled and other things from when he was a boy, and if you study the snow globe, the little house inside the globe is similar to the little house he grew up in, in the snows of Colorado.

That's because every town and many states already had their own "morality" laws, long before movies were invented. The laws related to live theatrical acts, bordellos, book and other printed material. If a film went too far, the theater could have been shut down, and in some cities they could even put the theater out of business and take over the property. In some places around the country now you won't find any X rated book stores in small towns, but you might be able to find them in the county areas (different laws in the counties). So, general morality laws already controlled the films to some great extent. That's why the pre-codes don't show outright nudity. Some old no-code part-nude films do exist and were shown in some theaters in some big cities that allowed them to get away with it. See Child Bride for example. Many films have lost some of their best scenes, since they were made in the early 30s and were still being distributed in 1934, and they had to have scenes cut to allow them to continue to be distributed.

The first Lockheed Constellation was manufactured in 1942. The first commercial airliner flight of the Constellation was in 1946. I think that is the old Idlewild Airport observation deck in NYC. The Airport first opened in 1948. http://www.postcardpost.com/enel38.jpg

I think some people, maybe some low-level guys at print or electronic labs, or some higher level “restorers” at major studios or distributors do some of their own manipulating, without asking anyone's permission.. Anyone along the way, during any of the copy and dub sessions, can program their printers (mechanical or electronic) to turn ANY outdoor daylight scene into a day-for-night final result. I think some people have done this, because I know I’ve seen much brighter prints on TCM in the past, and the first meeting between Wilson and Shane was almost in full daylight originally, since the expressions on their faces were very important to see. But we could not see those expressions in tonights dark scenes. Someone was responsible for making tonights print too dark in the day-for-night scenes. This puts TCM people in the position of demanding a print with "Bye Shane" on the sound track, and the day-for-night scenes being brighter than tonight's print, just like the film original day-for-night scenes were much brighter when I first saw it on the big screen in 1953, and on earlier TCM prints, which is an impossible position for TCM to be in.

Day for Day, before filtering down during printing. Anyone can filter this down either with film to film or with electronic copies. It can easily be done at any time, even 60 years later.

It seems to me that the day for night scenes were too dark in this print. In the scene where Shane and Wilson first meet, at Starrett's ranch, I could hardly see their faces, while I remember earlier prints that were quite bright and clear and my memory tells me that scene was shot in and shown as daylight.

Thanks fellas..... I don’t know the reason why, but it seems that if a new wide-open country has millions of head of native wild cattle already in place, rounding them up for sale would be the easiest thing to do. The buffalo weren’t all killed off until after the Civil War and the completion in 1869 of the trans-continental railroad. For 300 years the Spanish imported cattle from Europe, and the cows didn’t do as well on the open grazing land as Buffalo did. So why go to the expense of importing thousands of cattle and waiting years for herds to expand and grow, while there were millions of free buffalo still available in the 1700s and early 1800s? Why didn’t they sell the meat and the hides? They did that to the cows. Cow hides have always been used for clothes, shoes, boots, coats, etc. But I think they didn’t need to import the cows. I’m thinkin’ maybe that buffalo might have been more independent than cattle and were perhaps too difficult to keep in one small range, and to difficult to round up, control, and herd. Like trying to herd cats. In early cattle decades, fences weren’t used and weren’t needed, so maybe they stayed around grazing in one place better than the buffalo did, in the era before fencing. It might have taken too many cowboys to move a small group of buffalo. Plus, the lack of pickup trucks back in the old days........

I heard it.

In a New York Times review of a revival of the play, it says he was Jewish and she was Gentile, which caused some of the stress in the relationship because of their different families' opinions about the relationship. http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/01/theater/middle-of-the-night-a-paddy-chayefsky-play.html?_r=0 Sparks fly, only to detonate discord among their families: the Girl’s protective Mother (Amelia Campbell) and Kid Sister (Alyssa May Gold); and the Manufacturer’s spinster Sister (Denise Lute), headstrong Daughter (Melissa Miller) and milquetoast Son-in-Law (Mr. Bartels again). Another source of tension: He’s Jewish and she’s gentile, a difference Chayefsky uses to associate their union with a larger societal need for tolerance.

I've never understood it. Buffalo tastes better than European cows. There were plenty of free Buffalo in the West. So why didn't American Buffalo become the most common type of American Cattle as a food and leather supply?

Looks like murder in lower Manhattan, maybe.

Wow! More great movies all day today!

This has been a great day. Betty Grable and Technicolor go together. My family used to see all of these we could back in the 1940s and early 50s. It didn't matter what the plot was. They were all great.

The first car looks like a 1942 Lincoln Continental.

Looks like a police station, and a press room in a police station. The car looks like a 1941 Cadillac.

So, instead of talking about films, you are going to use this thread to attack a lot of other people on this board who haven't done anything wrong?

Hunted 1952 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cKWnm3z9zQ

I don't think that is this film because there is only one death in the one you are thinking about, and it's a lady. The title is something about "disappointment", the kid is disappointed in his male hero because the kid thinks he killed the lady by pushing her down the stairs. I can't remember the name either. HA! THE FALLEN IDOL 1948 was that other film. ============ But I seem to remember this kid in Kid's film who gets rejected by other kids when he tries to join their soccer game. Seems like he lives upstairs in an apartment and has no children as friends.

I wonder if they got any backlash from making films like the two George Arliss films I linked below. Those films seem wide open about old history in England, they are interesting, and they certainly portray the Jewish Disraeli and Rothschild as being very ethnic and quite intelligent and good men, which I like about the films. And in fact they tend to suggest in the films that some Gentiles weren't so bright. But that doesn't bother me because I grew up learning that by observation. Other ethnic Europeans were shown as being nice guys too, in many old films, and harder working and brighter than some of America's Anglo Saxons. Well, I know that too. But those kinds of early Jewish films were phased out, and Jews pretty much weren't mentioned much in Hollywood movies or on TV during the 1950s and 60s and 70s, except in the increasing number of new-type Holocaust films.

This is a good movie too, and very hard to find. SWORD IN THE DESERT 1949 What surprised me about it is that it shows fighting and shooting between the British troops and the Jewish immigrants, in Palestine, right after WW II. This is set in all Palestine. There is no Israel yet. I'm not sure how to post this link. Try to copy and paste it. https://archive.org/details/SwordInDesert353

This is a pretty good movie too, from 1934, also with George Arliss: The House Of Rothschild 1934 Hollywood stopped making films like this after the rise of the Nazis. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_ssqsViJvE