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FredCDobbs

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  1. Oh boy! I haven't seen this film since 1954.

     

    Coming up next is "He Walked By Night", which is the closest film that represents the basic idea of the style of "Dragnet" the tv show and the movie.

     

    As someone said earlier, the theme music for the TV show started with the theme music in "The Killers". This music was changed somewhat for the movie.

  2. > That's interesting. I guess everyone is looking for

    > the secret to a Happy Marriage, right....

     

    Ha.

     

    I think a lot of girls are looking for a movie they hope will teach them how to train their husbands to be like pet dogs.

     

    This is just a hunch. I?ve got no proof. But it is unusual that this movie has had so many requests from females, and the requests have always been about the ?how to train your husband like a dog? issue. Not about the stars, not about the other points in the movie, not about the ending, not about the romance... just the part about how to train a husband like a dog.

  3. I'm bringing this thread back up to the top to let young people know some background about "The Manchurian Candidate" movie. See my post just below. This is based on a supposition that the "Red" Chinese were using drugs to brainwash American soldiers captured during the Korean War.

     

    ?Manchurian Candidate? Background Info

     

    "I thought some of you younger movie fans might be interested in learning about the background information that led up to the novel and the movie ?The Manchurian Candidate?.

     

    During WW II the American OSS (the forerunner of the CIA) learned that both Russia and Germany had developed drugs that were designed to induce captured soldiers and spies to talk freely and reveal whatever military secrets they had.

     

    When the CIA was formed in the late 1940s, a division of that agency tried to keep track of the latest developments of drug experimentation on humans by both the Russians and then later by the emerging Communist government in China.

     

    After the Korean war ended in 1953, 21 young American soldiers who had been prisoners of war in North Korea refused to return to the United States, and they went to live in Communist China. A long series of newspaper and magazine articles were written about these soldiers, and the media term ?brainwashing? was first proposed by newspaper reporters. The speculation was that the Chinese, who had helped North Korea during the Korean war, had developed a method of ?brainwashing? the American soldiers by means of hypnotism, psychological conditioning, and the use of some unknown drugs, so that they wanted to become Communists and not return to the United States.

     

    As a kid I remember seeing films of the 21 American soldiers in the newsreels in theaters, and I remember seeing them acting and looking a little odd and peculiar in the films. They had odd expressions on their faces and they seemed a little dazed. I remember some adults talking about the soldiers looking ?doped up? when they appeared in the newsreels.

     

    Just a few years after this series of events, the CIA began to experiment with the drug LSD, trying to find out if it could be used by the US as some kind of brainwashing tool that the CIA could used on Communist spies and agents. A few American universities were used to test the effects of LSD on various volunteers, as part of a government research project, and eventually the word got out in the American media about the strange effects of the drug on the human mind.

     

    Eventually and ironically, LSD began to be thought of among some university intellectuals not as a ?brainwashing tool? but as an intellectual?s ?recreation drug?. The very first LSD movie was ?The Tingler?, with Vincent Price, released in 1959. In the early 1960s there was an LSD episode of the TV series ?Route 66?, and various national magazines wrote articles about the drug. LSD use eventually became a fad among hippies in the late 1960s, until many of them finally had enough bad experiences with the drug, they gradually stopped using it.

     

    In 1962 the ?The Manchurian Candidate? novel was published, in which it was speculated that maybe the Chinese brainwashing techniques had been developed so much and were so advanced that perhaps the Chinese could gain such complete control over captured American soldiers that they could ?program? them to return home, act normal, and commit political assassinations in the United States without their own knowledge.

     

    In the movie, the disorienting scenes of the ladies garden club meeting, inter-cut with scenes of the Communist China brainwashing lecture, were designed to not only shock the movie audience but to show how well the young American soldiers were brainwashed, so that they thought they were at a ladies garden club meeting while they were actually at a Communist brainwashing seminar.

     

    The nightmares later experienced by Frank Sinatra in the film, in which he remembered a little of the seminar, was supposed to represent some of the defects in the Chinese brainwashing technique, and some flaws in it.

     

    After the movie came out, and after Lee Harvey Oswald shot and killed President Kennedy a year later in Dallas, many people speculated that Oswald had been some kind of ?Manchurian Candidate? type of brainwashed character who had been ?programmed? to kill Kennedy while he had lived in the Soviet Union earlier in the 1960s. Some modern leftist conspiracy theories claim the CIA finally developed a ?Manchurian Candidate? brainwashing technique as a tool for political assassinations.

     

    Robert Osborne has often said on TCM that Frank Sinatra was so upset with the Kennedy assassination, and he always believed that the movie had something to do with encouraging or enticing Oswald to shoot Kennedy, Sinatra was able to have the movie pulled from distribution for more than three decades after the 1963 assassination. There was a long time when this film was not available in theaters, on tape, or on television.

     

    Since there never have been any major key political assassinations since the Kennedy murder, media people have come to believe that there is no such ?Manchurian Candidate? brainwashing technique that has been developed by any government, and that lower-level political assassinations in recent years have been the result of various random ?crackpots? going nuts and shooting someone for their own crackpot reasons.

     

    Here?s an article about the 21 American soldiers that did not return from Communist China after the Korean war:"

    http://www.aiipowmia.com/koreacw/zweiback21.html

  4. I prefer the longer version. I can?t think of anything that should or could be cut from the longer version. I?ve heard that the shorter version doesn?t have a few seconds of the nightclub strip dance in it, but I can?t think of anything else missing.

     

    I saw the US version about 15 years ago and it had Joseph Cotten giving the narrated introduction at the beginning of the film. But as for what was missing, I don?t recall.

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