traceyk65
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FORREST FREAKING GUMP. Hate hate hate that movie. Nearly everyone I know loves it, so I feel less a freak seeing how many people here dislike it. And pretty much anything starring Adam Sandler...
I generally like those "so-bad-they-are-good" movies. My sister and I even made up a rating scale known as The Lepus Scale of Bad Movie Goodness, where NIGHT OF THE LEPUS is a 10 (good) and PLAN NINE FROM OUTER SPACE is a 1 (terrible). But we watched THE YESTERDAY MACHINE (1963) not too long ago and I would say I have found one to hate. This stinker rates about a -10. It's about an ex-Nazi scientist who esacaped to America and built a time machine to change the outcome of WWII. It even starts well--a girl wiith an atrocious Texas accent is twirling a baton and dancing to something that might pass for Rock N Roll if you were a white chick from Texas in 1963. There's a night club singer and her newsreporter boyfriend and a mysterious house in the middle of a really big mysteriously empty field, in a town where other teenagers have disappeared mysteriously . Sounds like it might actually be interesting, right? Wrongy wrong wrong! Even Didiyama the dusky slave girl from ancient Egypt couldn't save it...
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Found a definition for "permalink" that seems to fit:
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So I ordered Memo from David O Selznick expressly to read his GWTW memos, hoping for a little more inisght on the Bette matter (and maybe the Cukor matter). I start reading and find out that they wanted Gable as Rhett and really never seriously considered anyone else and could only get him by allowing MGM in on the distribution and profits. Warner wanted the same thing only for Bette. As they wanted Gable for Rhett more than they wanted Bette for Scarlett, Bette was out.
As for Cukor, I was just reaching that section when I discovered that the book was missing 30 pages and now I have to return it and wait for a new one. Sooo frustrating!
That having been said, the book up to that point was very interesting, especially the sections about Ingrid Bergman and how they dealt with the fact that she was about 5' 10" and would tower over many of her co-stars.
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> {quote:title=TomJH wrote:}{quote}Arturo, I could be wrong, but I was under the impression that it was John Halliday, in support, not Gary Cooper, that played the part in Desire that would have gone to Gilbert. I stand to be corrected on this one because I'm not 100 per cent about this. Are you certain that Gilbert would have been the male lead in the film?
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> Of course, news of the affair between Gilbert's girlfriend, Dietrich, and Cooper on the set of the film put Gilbert over the edge when it came to binge drinking.
Tom, you're right. Gilbert was going to play the Halliday part. It's really unfortunate that he wasn't able to do it and died shortly after, because having him in the role would have given Dietrich a "real" choice (Cooper's fine upstanding American, Tom Bradley or Gilbert as the suave, somewhat shady Carlos Margoli) I mean, who would choose Halliday over Cooper? And it might have opened a 2nd career for Gilbert as an Adolphe Menjou-esque older leading man.
Edited by: traceyk65 on Aug 9, 2013 7:48 PM
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> {quote:title=Edythevanhopper wrote:}{quote}I have to open the thread. It was said of Maria Magdalena when her name changed( Marlene Dietrich) by her friend the poet Jean Cocteau.
Wasn't it for her Cafe de Paris opening? Cocteau said it, but she changed her name when she was about 11...
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> {quote:title=Edythevanhopper wrote:}{quote}I have to open the thread. It was said of Maria Magdalena when her name changed( Marlene Dietrich) by her friend the poet Jean Cocteau.
Wasn't it for her Cafe de Paris opening?
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Working for me today too! Thanks!
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Some Classic Clinches for your Friday:
Pairiing up SUNSET BOULEVARD and "Illusions" by Marlene Dietrich (who apparently was also considered for the role of Norma Desmond):
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Insecurity is really unattractive in a man...
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She was lovely. I still don;t know what she's wearing. It reminds me of when I was a little kid and used to roll up in the drapes.
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I think that whole bit about him looking for "someone" and hoping for a goddess whose face he can;t imagine, to me, smacked of a cheesy pick-up line. He said it like he'd said it 100 times to different women, all of whom were at least briefly flattered to think they might be "the one." Kind of like Adolph Menjou's "little boy" line in STAGE DOOR.
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> {quote:title=Dargo2 wrote:}{quote}
> > ... (And will likely feature prominantly in my therapy, should I ever avail myself of it)
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> Funny line there, Tracey!
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> (...oh the baggage we store over time, eh?!)
Yeah. Though honestly, it would probably be a tie between hairy grapes (that is what those things in fruit cocktail are right? If not I do not want to know) floating in green gelatin and the religious indoctrination when it comes to what may drive me to therapy...
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Clore, I am having the same problem. I searcehed "Fred Macmurray" and got this:
"No search results for "fred macmurray". You should try a less restrictive search.
Did you mean: [fred Acura|http://forums.tcm.com/search.jspa?q=fred%20Acura&o
fred Acura?? What does that even mean???
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> {quote:title=Dargo2 wrote:}{quote}
> > I don't know anyone who likes it, except it seems to be very popular among native Hawaiians, who seem to love it.
> That's 'cause they know how to make it edible. Ya just slice up the stuff in 1/2" thick strips, fry it up in a pan, and add a pineapple ring to it on a hamburger bun, and it ain't half bad!
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> (...I used to hate the stuff myself ya see, but then they opened a Hawaiian fast food restaurant near my old place of employment of LAX, and after a while I got hooked on it for lunch)
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When I was a kid, my Mom used to make something called "Ham Loaf Hawaiian" which was Spam, sliced almost all the way through, with cloves stuck into the "meat" and pineapple rings inserted into the cuts. Then the whole thing is sprinkled liberally with brown sugar and baked. That, along with "City Chicken" (breaded mystery meat on a stick) tuna casserole and Jello with canned fruit in were staples of my childhood. (And will likely feature prominantly in my therapy, should I ever avail myself of it)
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Today's the birthday of the Princess Mermaid, Esther Williams. What she did was so wierd, yet so lovely:
Ive also been reading David O Selznick's memos about GWTW. Here's a tribute to Scarlett and though it's a modern song, I think it really nails the character:
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Money can't buy happiness, but it CAN buy a lot of hats...
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> {quote:title=jamesjazzguitar wrote:}{quote}Are you sure that is Carole Lombard. Often those 'images' sites have pictures of people that are NOT the person associated with the site.
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> Doesn't look like her to me but than she did look different in her very early years.
{font:arial, helvetica, sans-serif}James--Yup that's her. I have the same photo in a book of Hollywood glamour shots called Image Makers:60 Years of Hollywood Glamour p. 90. It's a 1926 general publicity shot for Pathe. She would have been about 18.{font}
Edited by: traceyk65 on Aug 8, 2013 1:55 PM
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Dargo--Thank you. I did miss that part somehow. It all makes MUCH more sense now.
Misswonderly--I haven't seen THE CONSTANT NYMPH (the title may have put me off
) I looked for a post about LETTER, but couldn;t find one. (For some reason, the "search" function has been doing very odd things when I use it.) I wonder why Fontaine made 2 films which were so similar? Surely she was intelligent enough to see this? Maybe she just didn;t have a choice (was she a contract player or freelance?)finance--The relationship w/ Joan was also a one night stand, by her choice (another thing I do not understand--wth didn;t she tell him about the kid??)
james and wouldbe--I said I'm a sucker for a happy ending, but on 2nd thought, that was not the reason I disliked the film. It was Lisa's self-sacrificing tendencies that killed it for me. If she'd only been sacrificing her own happiness for Brand's, that I could have accepted, even if I didn;t really like it.I could have dealt with her giving him up so that he could rise to greatness or whatever. But she hurt her parents (who along with their social hopes. probably would have liked to see her happily married and also to see their eventual grandchildren), her son (his early life must have been harder than it had to be, with a single mom in a time when that was a big no-no, not to mention that putting him on that train so she could go off and reunite with his father caused him to be exposed to typhus), her husband (he had to know she married him for security, but obviously he cared for her and her son and had given them a very comfortable life--now he's lost them both and possibly will be either dead or in trouble for killing Brand) and ultimately, the object of all her sacrifice, Stefan Brand, who suffered through his own weakness and stupidity, which, as someone said, she mighthave been able to rein in. I find that sort of "sacrifice" unacceptable and ultimately no sacrifice at all, but self-indulgent crap.
(Oh dear, there I go being judgemental (emphasis on the "mental") as hell about a fictional character. I am sort of an idiot)
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> {quote:title=Geminigirl wrote:}{quote}I was disappointed with it, too. Maybe because I am not a huge fan of Louis Jourdan. I actually found it kind of boring; and I love Joan, but I don't need to see this film again. Maybe I'm at the point in my life where I am really jaded, but I'd take security any day over a passionate romance. She had a doting husband, a beautiful son that her husband treated as his own, gorgeous clothes and that mansion! I was thinking: woman please, get a grip.........................
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> Edited by: Geminigirl on Aug 7, 2013 3:15 PM
Yeah, me too. When he obviously had no memory of her and she realized what a jerk he was, I was hoping she'd maybe go back to the husband and tell him she couldn't go through with it and that she loved him instead. Or something.
I will say that it was well-acted. I did believe Joan was about 15 or so and very young and innocent at the beginning. She did the awkward young girl thing very well without being overly sweet or too wide-eyed (see Dietrich in the early scenes of THE SCARLETT EMPRESS in comparison. Yikes!)
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Another of Carole.
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Missed Robert Mitchum's Birthday yesterday, so here's to him...
And as I watched LETTER FROM AN INKNOWN WOMAN for the 1st time today, here's a pretty good tribute (If you don;t want to know the ending, best skip this one
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SPOILER ALERT (sort of)
Watched this movie for the first time today and I am left a bit...puzzled? annoyed? Something. Anyway. I like the premise of the movie--that this woman, who has made the Louis Jourdan character the center of her universe, is completely forgotten by him. And he's so self-absorbed that he doesn;t even remember her after she tells him, in great detail, exactly who she is. (That sort of flawed character is really interesting, in an infuriating sort of way--like Scarlett O'Hara) What I didn;t like was that she loses everything (including her life) in the end. Maybe I am a sap for a happy ending, but I wanted her to see what a jerk he was and then go back to her real life and be wonderfully happy or at least content. And I wanted him to see what he'd lost and go, "D*nm. I am a complete jerk. And a fool." Or at least for his butler to thwack him upside the head and then write "IDIOT!" I wanted revenge. LOL
One other thing: either I missed something or I am too thick-headed to understand (either is possible) but what was the significance of the ending? He finishes the letter, the butler tells him that of course her remembers the girl, two carriages pull up outfront and ominous music swells as two guys in tophats knock on his door and escort him out to the carriages. What was that all about??
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I have always loved anything with Loy and Powell. They do have great chemistry. And they both seem to be able to play off other people very well, too. Loy was great with Gable, Grant, even Fredric March and I can watch William Powell with anyone.
Errol Flynn and Olivia deHavilland had great chemistry.
Cary Grant and Hepburn are great together too. As much as I like Katharine Hepburn, there are only a few of her co-stars that she connects with believably and he is definitely one of them. (Grant is another one of those stars who can connect with just about any co-star, I think.)
) I looked for a post about LETTER, but couldn;t find one. (For some reason, the "search" function has been doing very odd things when I use it.) I wonder why Fontaine made 2 films which were so similar? Surely she was intelligent enough to see this? Maybe she just didn;t have a choice (was she a contract player or freelance?)
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> {quote:title=JakeHolman wrote:}{quote}I like friggin' Forrest Gump and Texas women with an accent.
> I've got a Southern accent and don't intend to try and change it.
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> Dune is the worst movie I ever tried to watch.
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> Jake Holman in the Heartland
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> Edited by: JakeHolman on Aug 9, 2013 9:07 PM
I don;t care about the accents. (Though in the case of Tom Hanks Forrest Gump-ese, I'll make an exception. His Eastern Europeanese in THE TERMINAL wasn;t all that great either. He should probably stay away from accents all together.) It's usually the plotlines and terribly written dialogue that make me dislike a movie. And in the case of Adam Sandler movies, the ridiculous 3rd grade attempts at humor. SO glad my son has finally outgrown that crap (and JACKASS).