traceyk65
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> {quote:title=mr6666 wrote:}{quote}
> "Garden of Allah" '36, as 'Domini Enfilden '
Oops. Forgot that one...
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> {quote:title=Swithin wrote:}{quote}
> Dietrich is transcendent. She can play tarts, but there is something so special about her, it's not like other actresses playing tarts. Dietrich lifts her characters from tart to art!
Very well said.
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> {quote:title=finance wrote:}{quote}
> Which major actresses NEVER played ladies of easy virtue? K. Hepburn for one? (I haven't read the rest of this thread, so it may have been mentioned).....OK, I had my arm twisted to read all the posts on this thread, and my question still stands.
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> Edited by: finance on May 16, 2011 9:39 AM
Or the reverse--besides Song of Songs, in which she starts out pure and ends up a floozy--did Marlene Dietrich ever play anyone who wasn't something of a tart? Ok, she's sort of straight in The Lady is Willing, playing a stage actress who marries so she can adopt a baby, but anything else?
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> DId Myrna Loy ever play a floozie or tart? I don't think so. She was too busy exploring another vice with William Powell (drinking ). I like Myrna a lot, by the way.
Loy played a number of loose, often oriental or "half-caste" women in her early films. Someone mentioned her role in Penthouse and in the Fu manchu movie. She played a man-hungry countess in Love Me Tonight, a masochist who likes to be beaten in The Barbarian, Becky Sharp in Vanity Fair (1932) and the mistress of a criminal baron in Topaze.
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> {quote:title=finance wrote:}{quote}
> Which major actresses NEVER played ladies of easy virtue? K. Hepburn for one? (I haven't read the rest of this thread, so it may have been mentioned).....OK, I had my arm twisted to read all the posts on this thread, and my question still stands.
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> Edited by: finance on May 16, 2011 9:39 AM
Well, she played Eleanor of Acquitaine in The Lion in Winter and she was portrayed as a woman who'd been more than once around the lighthouse. Several lines refer to it:
"Let's have a tally of the beds you've spread out on."(Henry to Eleanor)
"I marvel at you after all these years. Still like a democratic drawbridge: going down for everybody." (Henry to Eleanor)
"I put more horns on you than Louis ever wore!" (Eleanor to Henry)
" I'd hang you from the nipples, but you'd shock the children." (referring to jewelry)
"He had a mind like Aristotle and a form like mortal sin. We shattered the commandments on the spot." Eleanor about she and Henry)
"I wonder... do you ever wonder... if I slept with your father." (Eleanor to Henry)
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> {quote:title=helenbaby wrote:}{quote}
> Norma Shearer had a lot of racy roles in pre code films, like A Free Soul and The Divorcee. Sometimes she was trampy and sometimes she slept around to teach her fiance/husband a lesson.
And sometimes she slept around just because she wanted to...and because she could.
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> {quote:title=mrroberts wrote:}{quote}
> I believe some of you people would have loved seeing June Allyson instead of Janet Leigh in *Psycho*, am I right?
O heavens no. Then we'd have had to have seen her in her bra and slip...
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*Birthdays*
*Jean Gabin*
Never get tired of this one?still wanna see the film
Speed Painting of Jean Gabin
*Maureen O?Sullivan*
?You Jane.
*Dennis Hopper*
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWhbL9Ne6rA&feature=related
*Speedpainting!*
*I am totally fascinated by these things!*
Miss Marple
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TzNSfVlUxk
Bette Davis
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sahHSNy_Uk
Marilyn Monroe
Charlie Chaplin
Elvis Cheetos Painting replay
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That's funny! I noticed another horse prop--those Chinese horse statues. I first noticed them after an entire Brady Bunch movie (yes, the modern ones w/ Shelley Long--don't judge me) was built around the one on the stairs in the original Brady Bunch series. Then not long after I watched Bell Book and Candle, and there was that same staue, right in James Stewart's office. I found it again on "Bewitched" and went looking for more. None so far, but I'm keeping an eye out.
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> > GASP!!! Traceyk65, you only JUST saw Mockingbird?! I'm shocked! But hh how I envy you being able to discover that as an adult.
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> I know, right? It was my 18-yr-old son who got me to go see it, after he read the book and saw the movie in English class. Soooo glad he did!
I loved the book just as much as the movie. The movie focused more on the trial, (which it would, since Gregory Peck was the star) and the adult issues surrounding it, albeit from the point of view of the children. And it included many great childhood moments, scenes between Scout and Atticus, the pants on the fence incident, the moment when Jem realizes his Dad is the coolest Dad ever and not a nerdy geek and so forth. It's interesting--even though the children were in every scene, they are the last ones listed on the IMDB page.
The book spent more time on the day-today life of Scout and Jem. I didn't grow up in the 30's, but I grew up in a small town and so much of what Scout and her friends did reminded me of my own childhood (we even had a murderer's house that we told staries about and dared each other to peek into the windows of) All the little battles and triumphs that kids experience (especially in the days before video games)--Harper Lee captured them so well! The trial and the adult issues were more like punctuation--the kids knew it was inportant and wanted to help their Dad, but really didn't understand it all. They sort of forgot about it when it wasn't actually happening. They were more concerned w/ Boo Radley and the mysterious presents in the tree and whether Scout was going to make it through her first week of school without being kicked out for fighting and so on.
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*Birthdays*
*Joseph Cotton*
*James Mason*
*Anny Ondra*
*The Hitchcock Connection?*
North by Northwest
Blackmail
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzwBTyL7zyw&feature=related
Shadow of a Doubt
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dX6s3LTds3s&feature=related
Under Capricorn
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLeSxQjweTs
*?And one I would have included before, but didn?t find*
O is for Orson
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How about BOTH?
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> {quote:title=misswonderly wrote:}{quote}
> cujas, I picked those two June Allison films at random - although they do seem to be among her most well -known.
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> Regarding Kate Hepburn, you suggested to me:
> "Kate Hepburn needs no defense in any way. If you don't like her, you probably need to stick to War movies and Westerns."
> I know she needs no defense - I suspect that, unlike June baby, she has more fans than detractors. However, there are many types of films besides war movies and Westerns that were unsuited to Katharine Hepburn's style, and I enjoy lots of movies outside those genres that are Kate-less.
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> Film noir is my favourite genre, and other than *Undercurrent*, I can't think of anything very noirish that Kate was in. I actually don't mind her in this film.
Try Keeper of the Flame. It's like 9/10 of a Noir film, before it turns into anti-fascist propoganda (which isn't a BAD thing, just please don't hit me over the head with. Subtley is good )
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> {quote:title=misswonderly wrote:}{quote}
> Looks like it's a tie between Katharine Hepburn and June Allison. Interesting. I've decided that I feel sorry for June, and even though I, too, find her irritating, I'm going to consciously attempt to like her better, just to try to even things up a bit for the poor woman. It will be difficult, because she is irritating, but I'll try and be up to the task. Someone's got to like June Allison, and since nobody else has stepped up to the plate, I'll give it a whirl. I'm going to check the TCM schedule and make a note to watch the very next June Allison film they show. Gulp - I'm kind of scared...can I actually bring myself to enjoy watching June Allison for an hour and a half? Stay tuned, folks.
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> ( It had to be June Allison, because I can't imagine that there will ever come a day when I will actively like Katharine Hepburn. Besides, Kate has more people who adore her than dislike her. She doesn't need a defender. Poor June has nobody. Well, I'll grit my teeth, dammit, and try to suffer through *Good News*. Or maybe *Words and Music*...)
Thanks. Way to take one for the team!
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> {quote:title=LonesomePolecat wrote:}{quote}
> GASP!!! Traceyk65, you only JUST saw Mockingbird?! I'm shocked! But hh how I envy you being able to discover that as an adult.
I know, right? It was my 18-yr-old son who got me to go see it, after he read the book and saw the movie in English class. Soooo glad he did!
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*Birthdays*
*Billie Dove*
*Bobby Darin*
Mack the Knife
Beyond the Sea
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZoCrD88RP4&feature=related
*Ziegfield Girls*
Barbara Stanwyck
Joan Blondell
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2SA13sVt2s&feature=related
Paulette Goddard
Doris Eaton
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Sooo jealous! Thank you all for your recaps, comments etc. Now I may have been hallucinating this, but were there ever plans to take the show on the road so to speak? Even a greatly pared-down version? I'd be happy with it if it only included the movies and no special guests at all!
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The August schedule looks great!
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> > > Marlene Dietrich is the honoree Aug. 31:
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> > > http://www.tcm.com/schedule/index.html?tz=est&sdate=2011-08-31
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> > Ah, I wish they picked Dishonored, it's not on DVD here.
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> I think that DISHONORED has run into TV right issues. I haven't seen it listed anywhere for at least 10 years.
Maybe I hallucinated this, but I thought TCM played it a few years back, along with Shanghai Express as part of the salute to Pre-code women surrounding Complicated Women (which is excellent, BTW)
I could be wrong about this--I know I have it on VCR tape, but it could be one I got from the Universal Dietrich collection, most of which, as has been mentioned, have not been released in the US. You can get them for R2, however.
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Bed of Roses --two working girls leave prison and seduce and rob their way to "the good life."
Safe in Hell -- Dorothy Mackaill is a prostitute who's accused of killing a customer and escapes to the Caribbean, where she encounters the same man and actually kills him this time
The Holy Grail of all precodes-- Convention City, which included Guy Kibbee quipping to Joan Blondell: "You take off your dress and I'll take off my toupee!"
There's also Mary Astor gulping gin and a subplot concerning a goat and an amorous auctioneer Adolphe Menjou does his sleezy older man thing and seduces the boss's daughter.
The Divorcee, A Free Soul and Strangers May Kiss depicted an unmarried Norma Shearer having lots and lots of sex and feeling no shame or remorse about it at all. In Private Lives, she and ex husband Robt Montgomery meet up while honeymooning with their respective 2nd spouses, realize they are still in love, and take off together.
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I grew up in the midwest, in a small town near a small city (Dayton), so there weren't a lot of opportunities to see the classics (as far as I know the only classic movie late night show around was Shock Theatre which played cult horror films) I saw all the Disney live actions from the 60's and 70's either at the drive-in w/ my family as a kid or at a church Youth Group Lock-ins as a teen.
My first experience of Bette Davis was, sadly, Return from Witch Mountain and my first Katharine Hepburn film was On Golden Pond, both seen in theatres.
Gone with the Wind--big screen, at a theatre re-release sometime in the late 70's, with my grandmother
Psycho --medium screen, at one of the afore-mentioned Youth Group lock-ins
Sleeping Beauty --big screen, with my grandmother, when I was about 5
To Kill a Mockingbird --big screen, last summer (how did I miss this one for so long??) at Victoria Theatre
Gentlemen Prefer Blondes -- ditto
Jungle Book and The Aristocats --drive in theatre in the 70's
TV in the 70s or 80's
That's Entertainment--first time I'd seen a lot of the MGM musical numbers, which made me want to see the whole movie
Wizard of Oz
The Ten Commandments
Rented or purchased VCR tapes:
Destry Rides Again
The Lion in Winter
My Man Godfrey
Charade
North by Northwest
My Favorite Wife and The Awful Truth
The original Dracula, Frankenstein and Nosferatu
Singin' in the Rain
Seven Sinners
A Foreign Affair
All the Dietrich von Sternberg films
All About Eve
The Letter
Casablanca
Rented or purchased DVDs
Bringing Up Baby
Philadelphia Story
The Shop Around the Corner
To Have and Have Not
TCM
The Thin Man movies
Night of the Lepus
Red Dust
Baby Face
Redheaded Woman
Maltese Falcon
(I apologize for the length and possibly incoherent structure...)
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Actually most of the cast of Dragon Seed is just wrong...
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As much as I like her, Katharine Hepburn should never have been allowed to play a Chinese woman in Dragon Seed. Very weird--a Chinese peasant w/ a Bryn Mawr accent and blue eyes.
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> {quote:title=redriver wrote:}{quote}
> Don't feel bad. You're entitled to your opinion. Unless you're a fire hydrant, you'll be treated with respect.
Just don't use bad grammar or poor spelling...
TRAMPS, TROLLOPS, AND TARTS OF THE SILVER SCREEN
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> {quote:title=William wrote:}{quote}
> Marlene was def not one of those in "Judgement at Nuremberg" 1961
OK, fair enough, but she played enough of them during her prime...