traceyk65

*Birthdays Today* *Moms Mabley* http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fj3-rigrQ7c&feature=related *Betty Compson* http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPQx3FAwXaw *Ursula Andress* *Bond Girls* Diana Rigg Honor Blackman http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxWza7NIbvw&feature=related Jane Seymour Jill St John http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUx4enSz9XY&feature=related

If it's Paramount, then maybe it would work.

I've tried twice to watch Dr Strangelove and fell asleep both times. I know it's supposed to be hilarious and all, but I just don't get it.

> {quote:title=Im4movies2 wrote:}{quote} > Despite the brilliance of Bette Davis I had a hard time staying awake watching The Corn Is Green not just once but the three times I tried watching. Someday I'll get to stay awake and see the whole thing. I think the Hepburn version is better--she was closer to the right age (Ethel Barrymore starred in the play, I think) and it was the 70's, so they could be much more frank about the situation.

> {quote:title=VP19 wrote:}{quote} > As a Carole Lombard fan, I'd have loved to have seen her team up with another top actress of the time, preferably in some sort of buddy comedy. Imagine Carole with Jean Harlow (they were good friends in real life), or a Lombard-Loy teaming (ditto with Carole and Myrna as friends, though I don't think Lombard socialized as much with her as she did with Harlow). Even Lombard and Marlene Dietrich teaming up might have had potential. What about a remake (yeah, yeah, but it happened ALL the time in the old days:) ) of Trouble in Paradise with Dietrich, Lombard and either Gary Cooper or William Powell? Or something along those lines--a sophisticated comedy, with Lubitsch directing.

Pet Semetary. I got talked into seeing it by a friend and about halfway through, I was just done. The scene in which the father and grandfather fight at the 2-yr-old's funeral and knock the coffin over and it opens...nope. (found out later the 2-yr-old comes back to life as some possesed demon child and kills his mother--who would let their child play taht part???) I have enough crap permamnently burned into my brain, thanks.

Interesting idea--if TCM could pull it off. I think she did most of her work at Fox and aren;t they terribly stingy with their movies?

*Birthdays Today* *Robert Donat* http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXxp_7K91K8&feature=related *Russian Movies* Scarlet Empress http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABROXMa1uG0 Dr Zhivago Fiddler on the Roof http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oD-FxyX6_c Anna Karenina Anastasia

*Birthdays Yesterday* *Jerry Lewis* ?Typewriter? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWJBfvWjlk0&feature=related The Errand Boy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MA3406YJUg *Conrad Nagel* http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrVGIGHRJQM *Mercedes McCambridge* Johnny Guitar *Birthdays today:* *Brigitte Helm* *Happy St. Patrick?s Day!* *The Irish Mafia* *Spencer Tracy* *Frank McHugh* *James Cagney* http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qb5xXBhFz2Y&feature=related *Pat O'Brien* Angels With Dirty Faces http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgc085FsAJc'>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgc085FsAJc'>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgc085FsAJc'>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgc085FsAJc Knute Rockne All American http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgc085FsAJc McHugh and Cagney do Shakespeare http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uyrr1-6ro_4

Birthdays today: *George Brent* http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9xgfRWGaOE DarK Victory *J Pat O Malley* Jungle Book Alice in Wonderland http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWtQ2M92qyw *Zarah Leander* *Bette Davis? Leading Men* Herbert Marshall http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ny3av_v6_RE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayXGM5TyRco Charles Boyer Henry Fonda Leslie Howard http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjJj9SfvyOM&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOtNLL2CaIg&feature=related Deception (she gets 2 leading men in this one!)

*Birthdays today:* *Michael Caine* The Italian Job: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dgc2rXedGMw&feature=related Alfie: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyShmXPoLJo *British Actors/Actresses of the 60?s* Peter Sellers The Redgraves Lynn http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NemyPX5ssik Vanessa Julie Christie Maggie Smith David Hemmings Peter O Toole

*Birthdays today:* *Dorothy Gish* http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uS9__rUDXP8&feature=related *Jesse Matthews* http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soywIx509Hw&feature=related *Silent Stars:* *British imports* http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZWukR8yrS4 Vivien Leigh Angela Lansbury James Mason Sean Connery

Lost a few days... *Birthdays today:* *Gloria Stuart* The 1933 ?Stars of Tomorrow: *Gregory La Cava* Stage Door: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdI0dAIxOMM&feature=related My Man Godfrey: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dI0ogBZ9xuE&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9Yq8u27ThA&feature=related *Clare Boothe Luce* Classic Hollywood Quotes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnS-dde1qTM&playnext=1&list=PLDDDD52A5268A53A9 AFI Movie Quotes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VprtUwfEA6Y&feature=related

> {quote:title=Arturo wrote:}{quote} > *My first thought on hearing that Marlene Dietrich had told Louella that she was going to Palm Springs to work on her tan was how would the studio allow it, since she always appeared so pale in the movies? But then I remembered this was during the "box office poison" period after Paramount had bought back her contract.* > > Even during the height of her popularity in the early 30s, Marlene never made more than two films a year. So she probably has always had plenty of time to work on her tan, or concentrate on other pastimes. In the bio her daughter wrote, she says that the summer of 1938 was the first year that Dietrich got a tan. I guess she liked the way it looked, if she was still working on it 9 months later.

Sorry about leading this so far off topic (but I did have help) The whole Indian vs European thing is a button of mine...I understand that the native tribes weren't always right, but really, don't peple argue all the time about "defending what's ours"; isn't that what they were doing? More or less? OK done now. How about those performances by Tracy and March? I love the way they both (esp March) sit in the background while the other does a speech, waving fans and other scene-stealing activities. Cracks me up.

> {quote:title=LuckyDan wrote:}{quote} > Couple of things. > > >On *June 23*, the very day that Bouquet penned his letter to Amherst from Philadelphia, Trent reported that two Delaware dignitaries, Turtle's Heart and Mamaltee, visited Fort Pitt late at night and asked to speak with post officials ... > > Trent recorded that visit and the blanket exchange on May 24, not June 23, and even if it had been in June, he still would not have been in receipt of any orders from the Brits to infect the Indians with the virus. > > Col. Bouquet's "P.S. I will try to inocculate the Indians by means of Blankets..." to Gen. Amherst was written several weeks later, on July 13. Clearly Trent was not acting under any orders from Amherst. Or anyone else. > > The Bouquet-Amherst correspondence may indicate intent, but Trent's prior actions do not prove anything involving conspiracy occurred. > > Then there is the question of how likely transmission of small pox via bedding might be. The virus enters through the nose. Transmission-by-blanket, while not impossible, would seem less likey than, say, direct contact with an infected person with a nasty cough. I assume if Trent had access to a "Small Pox Hospital" he also had access to a small pox victim to do the job right. > > Regarding "the invoice" > > To Sundries got to Replace in kind those which were taken from people in the Hospital to Convey the Smallpox to the Indians Vizt: > 2 Blankets @ 20/ ?299 099 0 > 1 Silk Handkerchef 10/ > & 1 linnen do: 3/6 099 1399 6 > > I can't find an historical record or photo of this document. I don't say it's phony, but it does have the look and feel of a "Baby Milk Factory Iraq" T-shirt about it. > > Tracey said that maybe Trent's "regard" for the Indans might not have been a friendly one. There is nothing in the tone of his journal entry that indicates hostility. He is said by those who have studied his journals to have kept very detailed records. It would seem, if he had planned germ warfare and had targeted the Delaware, Shawnee and Mingo, he would have spoken up about it with some pride. > > Finally, to JBH, by europhobe I mean those who maintain that the white men were eee-vil and bent on genocide. Ward Churchill, for example. OK, I've been looking at the dates and realize that Trent and the pox blankets was about 50 years before the Cherokee Removal, so we're actually talking about two different instances of "germ warfare." My question regarding Trent is this: if he meant no harm and really admired the Indians, why blankets from a pox hospital? Why not fresh new blankets right off the ship? Or out of the storeroom or whatever? Why give them blankets that had been used by people infected by small pox? (I looked it up--small pox can be spread by contaminated clothing or bedding--that's why they burned the clothing and so forth of people who had it.)

And misswonderly...just for you: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYpjTyq90XE

I'm not a genius at this, but here's a link to youtube's help site--the section specifically on uploading videos: http://www.google.com/support/youtube/bin/topic.py?hl=en&topic=16560 You'll have to creat an account, but that's not a big deal.

*Birthdays today:* *Lou Costello:* Who?s on First? The Mustard Sketch: *Classic Comedy Routines:* *Marx Brothers:* Night at the Opera: Horse feathers: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IrCgCKrv8U&feature=related *Jack Benny vs Mel Blanc:* *Your Show of Shows:* The Clock: *Monty Python:* The Ministry of Silly Walks: The Holy Grail: *Did you ever find Bugs Bunny attractive when he put on a dress and played a girl bunny?...Uh, me either...* http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lv1nJ8GqdMY *Carol Burnett:* The Dentist: *The Blues Brothers:* http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHa_jqxnn4o *Rochelle Hudson* *Classic Actresses:* http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFBF2mPUtdg&feature=related

*It?s been a nasty, wet cold day in SW Ohio today. So I?m thinking warm thoughts?* Beach Movies: Beach Party: Beach Blanket Bingo: Gidget: The Ghost in the Invisible Bikini: Summer Nights: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpJUrt0O7uY&feature=related Some Like it Hot (on the beach): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQspWS1tQ7M&feature=related Keeping cool with Marilyn in The Seven Year Itch: On holiday with Monsieur Hulot: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2mj5eD2U6M&feature=related

> {quote:title=LuckyDan wrote:}{quote} >. Out of our regard to them we gave them two Blankets and an Handkerchief out of the Small Pox Hospital. I hope it will have the desired effect. They then told us that Ligonier had been attacked, but that the Enemy were beat of+* > Of course you could argue that that "regard" might not have been benign...why, knowing how contagious small pox was would they think that giving the indians blankets and a handkercheif from a small pox hospital could possibly have been a good thing?

> {quote:title=jbh wrote:}{quote} > Did yall know that the smallpox virus was used as perhaps the first biological weapon against the Native Americans by the Europeans? Infected blankets were given to the unsuspecting victims, and the epidemic began with the satisfying results of viral death, thus saving physical warfare, the lives of the "insurgents," their ammunition, and generally providing easier sleeping by the courageous founders of our country. Andrew Jackson okayed that one, I believe. And we put him on the $20 bill...

> The Western settlers used some Indians as slaves, but they found they didn?t make good slaves. Thus the importation of Africans. The Indians were used as workers where possible, and they were left alone in many tribes, and they intermarried with Spanish, English, and other Europeans. Many Americans today have Indians in their ancestry. The ones that were attacked and wiped out were the raiders, robbers, killers, and kidnappers, such as the fate of the Natchez Indians, wiped out by the French after the Natchez Indians wiped out most of the French at Fort Rosalie. > Europeans did NOT leave the tribes alone. They moved in, chopped down the trees and cleared land that the tribes needed to support their hunter/gatherer lifestyle. (And before someone jumps on that, I realize that some Native Americans were farmers and so forth--they didn't come off so well either) When the tribes fought back, the English, French and later US govt sent in troops with superior weapons and forced them out. When they had to, they made treaties with various tribes, few of which were actually honored and kept forcing them West, usually onto land that was far inferior to the land they'd been living on. (Can anyone argue for instance that Oklahoma is better than the Tennesee-N Carolina area where the Cherokees used to live?) And what about the Trail of Tears and the pox-infected blankets? Leave them alone my Aunt Fanny... Edited by: traceyk65 on Mar 5, 2011 6:40 PM

> {quote:title=misswonderly wrote:}{quote} > > {quote:title=traceyk65 wrote:}{quote} > > Yeah that's part of it, but I also have a problem w/ film noir--the guys are always duking it out and worse, they seem to always be shaking or smacking the woman. Not cool. > > > > And I like film noir. > > Hey, if we're talkin' violence in film noir it sends it up to a whole new level. Have you seen *The Big Heat* ? how about that scalding coffee Lee Marvin tosses into lovely Gloria Graham's face? Almost equals some of the nastiness in movies today. > And yeah, people are always getting thoroughly thrashed, trashed, and dumped in a back alley for dead. I will say, though, that the camera often focuses more on the punchers than the punched; often all you see of them is their battered bodies slumped over the garbage cans. That's frequently the "warning" from the bad guys to "stay out" of it (whatever "it" may be.) > > Edited by: misswonderly on Mar 5, 2011 11:46 AM Exactly. We can't ignore it, just because it's in a classic movie.

*Birthdays today:* *Pearl White* http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jv2laGT8q_I&feature=fvwrel *Dorothy Mackaill* Safe in Hell: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlMBoIG3LOA&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWb1R39UAj4&feature=related *John Garfield* http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bSrk_cnmk8&playnext=1&list=PL7DBCFC80CE14220B Humoresque: The Postman Always Rings Twice: