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filmlover, regarding TCM Underground, Imports and Silents, do we have the same option we have had in the last few Challenges to choose any movie within those genres, seeing how they don't always adhere to the rest of the RKO, Warner, MGM, etc. library?
Matt,
Very good point. I didn't think of that (my instructions were already the length of a novel).
Yes, for the TCM Underground, TCM Imports, and TCM Silent Sunday Nights, choose any movie from any studio, regardless if they are TCM-library or not. And these will not count as part of the five premieres.
Thanks for pointing it out. (lol, why ever did I think that when I got to be host/moderator of a Challenge, I would have a month of quiet while everyone else worked hard?)
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It is amazing the imagination on these boards. (LOL, to everyone else, it's not a requirement of the Challenge to do a promo, but, boy, it sure is fun to see. I would never have thought of this. Congratulations, Ben.)
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I have been waiting to see what would come up in May and am very happy to hear of the tributes planned to all three stars' 100th birthdays.
I know you keep on top of special dates like these yourself, but I am wondering if it is at all possible my Challenge from a few months back highlighting Laurence Olivier and Katherine Hepburn's 100th dual birthdays in May (with an all-day tribute to Olivier on May 22nd) could have had anything to do with kindling the special tribute in May that you mention? I remember hoping they would both be named Stars of the Month.
Even if not, I am still very delighted that these stars get their well-deserved tributes. It's too bad Love Among the Ruins was a TV-movie, as it was the only film in which Olivier and Hepburn starred in together. -
Welcome, sweetsmellofsuccess. And your moniker is terrific. Love that movie.
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Yeah, I heard there were some snowflakes in Malibu.
There are a lot of flakes in Malibu.
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Snow? Snow? Oh, that's that white stuff, right? I think I heard rumors of that being out here in the L.A. area for a few minutes a little while ago. We're getting ready for some 80-degree sun next week.
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The database search is the only real way I can think of, kubrick. But with having the chance to put in five premieres, they should cover you.
Plus, remember you have all of Columbia, MGM, Rank, Monogram, and RKO, plus Disney live-action, WB (pre 1950), and UA (post 1950). None of those do you have to check. That's thousands of movies.
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Nope.
Clue #4: Mob riot.
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I didn't find any problems with any of your other choices, kubrick. I recognize them as being on TCM. It was only The Grapes of Wrath that I had a question about. However, if lzcutter believes Grapes has been on TCM, I am willing to go along with it not being a premiere.
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I think it goes along with what Robert Osborne said last night about the plot not being great, but there is that beautiful color photography.
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Just went back on the air. Kubrickbuff said his signal was ok, so it must have been a problem at Direct TV. They seem to have it fixed now.
Forgive me, Fred, but when I read your first post about Direct TV having problems, I admit I smiled and thought, "Thank goodness, it's not DISH this time."
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Hasn't TCMprogrammer said as well that the programming is done on a month-by-month basis and that sometimes they fail to notice that a movie being shown at the beginning of one month had been scheduled at the end of the previous month?
This strikes me as the most reasonable explanation. A month must be planned out in one session, so as to work in themes, star of the month, etc. They comes the business, I'm sure of getting the films, and all the other things they do.
Then another month comes looming uo on their schedule and they have to sit down and start again. And I am sure the process would be greatly slowed down if they had to look up every film to see when it was last aired.
While to you and me, Garden of Allah is scheduled a few days apart, the actual monthly scheduling process may have been done thirty days after the previous month's planning. I think it is just a coincidence that they happen to be so close.
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Make sure you carefully research to see if the films you pick from studios, other than what is mentioned in Rule #1, have been shown on TCM before; otherwise, they would be premieres. For example, on your list is The Grapes of Wrath, a 20th-Century Fox film that I don't think has been on TCM yet.
As Benhowell questioned earlier:
How do you know if a title was previously scheduled on TCM? I have a couple from 20TH Century Fox. One of the titles has aired...the other I'm not sure.If it hasn't I could use it as a premiere, right?
If you do a search in the TCM database for the title, and when it comes up and you click on it you will see a section to the left that is headed "mainlinks". Some of the headings are "Overview", "Full Credits", etc. A little ways down in that list is one that says "Articles". If Articles is in bold black, click on it. A TCM article will probably come up on it and that is a very good sign it has aired on TCM. If it is not in bold, that is a good sign it has not aired on TCM and would be a Premiere if it is from Fox.
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Count me in, let the research begin!
Welcome, filmhistorian! All the instructions are in the first post of this thread.
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I thought that it had to be a paticular month of the year and that's why I did not put the month on the schedule, so am I to understand that it can be any month of the year?
It can be any month, any week.
I may switch some movies around, I don't think that some of them belong. To be honest with you I don't really care for the movei Harold and Maude, the only reason I added it to the shedule was because I could not think of another film that delt with troubling teens, I think that I should create a new catigoary to to put A Clockwork Orange and Rushmore in. I don't think that City of Angels and Ghostbusters belong together and I still don't know where to put Jurrasic Park and Fargo. The classic films are easy to put together but these recent modern films are difficult. Where do you think I should put these?
I had to smile when I read that because it means you have now switched over into Programmer mode. It is a place we all got to once we got into it, and that is what the whole Challenge is about. We wrestle films back and forth, trying to make movies fit into a theme, moving again to work within specific times, should more adult films be put in around 11 PM or 2 AM, what works better during the daytime, etc.
As to where you should put them, that has to be your call entirely. This is your schedule and when you complete it and make it work, you will be proud of it and yourself. And that is another reason no one should advise you where to place films or what themes to come up with. Your only restrictions are what is in the instructions.
But I will say if you go back to any decade, you will find films about teens and their problems.
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Congratulations, it's coming along very well.
It's important to list the running times of the films, too.
Also, you should be picking a particular week of the year. Example: Sunday, February 4th, Monday, February 5th, etc. This way, you also can tie in a specific date to a star's birthday or a famous event that happened.
Don't forget to check out all the instructions in the very first post for special things you need to schedule in your week, especially Rule #2 and Rule #3.
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I guss we take for granted how hard it is for these television stations to come up with a complete schedule 24 hours and 7 days a week, thank god we only have to do it for one week.
That was one of the reasons fellow TCM fan, path40a, created the very first Challenge, to give us an appreciation of how difficult it is for the TCM Programmer to do this every week, 52 times a year.
Do you think that I could just suggest some films and they will put it on the schedule because I am having difficult time trying to do this challenge.
Two things regarding that:
1. Unfortunately, you have to complete your own schedule. From the picking of titles, to researching time lengths, studio, year,choosing themes, to making them all fit in the 24-hours, 7-days schedule. but you don't have to rush. You still have about 35 days to complete it.
2. When you mention they, remember, the schedule you post is just a fun contest for the fans on this message board. As mentioned in the first post on this thread:
"The TCM Programming Challenge is a fun-only contest for fans of TCM that was started here by fellow Message Board poster, path40a, in early 2006 as a great exercise for fans of TCM on the Message Board and is not sponsored by TCM. However, the TCM programmer looks in on each contest and if he finds ideas he likes he will borrow them to use as part of his schedule. Many of us who have taken part in past Challenges have been fortunate enough to have our themes used on TCM."
Doing a schedule is a lot of work for even the people who have been in each contest so far. I have done five full schedules so far and I come away exhausted after doing each one. If you would prefer to just submit a few film titles to TCM that you would like them to play, instead of doing a full-blown schedule of this size, you can always use their "Suggest A Movie" link instead: http://www.tcm.com/suggestamovie/index/
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I'm going to attempt this challenge-If my head doesn't explode...A quick question-How do you know if a title was previously scheduled on TCM? I have a couple from 20TH Century Fox. One of the titles has aired...the other I'm not sure.If it hasn't I could use it as a premiere, right?
If you do a search in the TCM database for the title, and when it comes up and you click on it you will see a section to the left that is headed "mainlinks". Some of the headings are "Overview", "Full Credits", etc. A little ways down in that list is one that says "Articles". If Articles is in bold black, click on it. A TCM article will probably come up on it and that is a very good sign it has aired on TCM. If it is not in bold, that is a good sign it has not aired on TCM and would be a Premiere if it is from Fox.
Also, can I combine sunday's silent/TCM import?
Yes, definitely, is it is a very long film. A silent can be an import. But if it is about 2 hours, it would be good to supplement it with either another silent or another import, so one will be under Silent Sunday Night and one will be under TCM Import. If it is a film like Napoleon, which is an import, a silent, AND very long, then that could be sufficient for both.
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I came up with my sunday, tursday, friday, and saturday night scedule but I am still not sure what to show during the day so I may need some time.
Take your time. You have until midnight Pacific Time on March 7th to post your schedule.
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"...once we've come up with a schedule, do we post it in this thread?"
Yes, just as I did the sample below.
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Since it is sometimes easier to work from a shown example, here is a sample of a schedule I did a few Challenges back. You can get an idea of formatting for your schedule from it.
SUNDAY, February 18th
God in the Movies
6:00 AM Ben-Hur (MGM, 1959) 223 min.
Cartoon: Roman Legion Hare (1955)
10:00 AM SYNCOPATION STATION: Cabin in the Sky (WB, 1943) 93 min.
11:45 AM King of Kings (MGM, 1961) 161 min.
2:30 PM The Greatest Story Ever Told (UA, 1965) 200 min.
Ronald Colman Festival ? the man for whom sound films must have been invented
6:00 PM THE ESSENTIALS: The Prisoner of Zenda (UA, 1937) 101 min.
7:45 PM Lost Horizon (Columbia, 1937) 133 min. ps
Cartoon: The Abominable Snow Rabbit (1961)
10:15 PM A Double Life (Univ., 1948) 104 min. ps
12 MID SILENT SUNDAY NIGHTS: The White Sister (MGM, 1923) 104 min.
2:00 AM A Tale of Two Cities (MGM, 1935) 127 min.
4:15 AM Kismet (MGM, 1944) 100 min.
MONDAY, February 19th
Presidents Day Salute
6:00 AM 1776 (Col., 1972) 166 min. (John Adams, Thomas Jefferson) ps
Trailer: Abe Lincoln in Illinois
Cartoon: Old Glory (1939) (Uncle Sam teaches Porky Pig about U.S. history)
9:00 AM Abe Lincoln in Illinois (RKO, 1940) 110 min.
Short: A Failure at Fifty (1940) (Abe Lincoln)
11:00 AM The Wind and the Lion (MGM, 1975) 119 min. (Teddy Roosevelt)
1:00 PM Sunrise at Campobello (WB, 1960) 144 min. (Franklin D. Roosevelt)
3:30 PM PT 109 (WB, 1963) 140 min. (John F. Kennedy)
Trailer: Santa Fe Trail
6:00 PM Santa Fe Trail (WB, 110) starring real life President Ronald Reagan
Short: Warner Bros. Blooper reel with Ronald Reagan
Director John Frankenheimer Birthday Salute
8 PM The Manchurian Candidate (UA, 1962) 126 min.
Short: The Manchurian Candidate Interviews (1988)
Cartoon: Ballot Box Bunny (1951) (appears briefly as Teddy Roosevelt)
10:30 PM Seven Days in May (UA, 1962) 126 min.
12:45 AM Birdman of Alcatraz (UA, 1962) 147 min.
Cartoon: The Jet Cage (1962) (Tweety)
3:30 AM The Train (UA, 1965) 133 min.
Cartoon: The Wild Chase (1965) (Road Runner and Speedy Gonzalez)
TUESDAY, February 20th
45th Anniversary of day U.S. astronaut John Glenn circled the Earth (1962).
6:00 AM The Right Stuff (WB, 1983) 193 min. ps
Next, we will also circle the globe today, starting with:
International Films That Stunned the World
9:15 AM Battleship Potemkin (Goskino, 1925) 70 min. (U.S.S.R.) pd
11:00 AM Metropolis (UFA, 1927) 124 min. (Germany) ps
1:15 PM The Passion of Joan of Arc (Societe Generale Des Films, 1928) 83 min. (France) ps
2:45 PM Day of Wrath (Palladium A/S, 1943) 110 min (Denmark) ps
4:45 PM The Bicycle Thief (Cifex Film, 1948) 89 min. (Italy) ps
6:30 PM Gate of Hell (Daiei, 1953) 86 min. (Japan) ps
Love Around the World ? Spotlight of the Month for February
8:00 PM Life is Beautiful (Miramax, 1998) 122 min. (Italy) PREMIERE
Short: Oscar clips of an excited Roberto Benigni winning two Academy Awards.
Short: Travel Talks ? Visiting Italy (1951)
10:30 PM Never On Sunday (UA, 1960) 93 min. (Greece)
Short: Travel Talks - Word for the Greeks (1951)
12:30 AM Smiles of a Summer Night (Janus, 1955) 110 min. (Sweden) ps
Short: Travel Talks - Rural Sweden (1938)
2:30 AM Brief Encounter (Cineguild, 1945) 86 min. (United Kingdom) ps
Short: Travel Talks - From Liverpool to Stratford (1949)
4:15 AM Gigi (Codo Cinema, 1948) 83 min. (France) ps
Short: Travel Talks - Paris on Parade (1938)
WEDNESDAY, February 21st
Al Jolson Salute ? ?You Ain?t Heard Nothin? Yet?
6:00 AM The Jazz Singer (WB, 1927) 89 min.
7:30 AM The Singing Fool (WB, 1928) 102 min.
9:15 AM Say It With Songs (WB, 1929) 95 min.
11:00 AM Big Boy (WB, 1930) 70 min.
12:15 PM Mammy (WB, 1930) 84 min.
1:45 PM Hallelujah, I?m A Bum (UA, 1933) 83 min.
Trailer: Wonder Bar
3:15 PM Wonder Bar (WB, 1934) 85 min.
4:45 PM Go Into Your Dance (WB, 1935) 97 min.
6:30 PM The Singing Kid (WB, 1936)
Trailer: Angels With Dirty Faces
Ann Sheridan ? Star of the Month ? birthday salute
8:00 PM Angels With Dirty Faces (WB, 1938) 98 min.
Trailer: Torrid Zone
9:45 PM Torrid Zone (WB, 1940) 89 min.
Trailer: Kings Row
11:30 PM Kings Row (WB, 1942) 127 min.
Trailer: They Drive By Night
2:00 AM They Drive By Night (WB, 1940) 96 min.
Trailer: City for Conquest
Cartoon: Bowery Bugs (1949)
4:00 AM City for Conquest (WB, 1940)
Cartoon: Rabbit Punch (1948)
Trailer: The Maltese Falcon
THURSDAY, February 22nd
Peter Lorre & Sydney Greenstreet ? The Complete Teamups of the Gruesome Twosome
6:00 AM The Maltese Falcon (WB, 1941) 101 min.
Short: Travel Talks - Cavalcade of San Francisco (1940)
Cartoon: Hollywood Steps Out (1941) (Peter Lorre caricature)
8:00 AM The Mask of Dimitrios (WB, 1944) 96 min.
Trailer: Passage to Marseille
9:45 AM Passage to Marseille (WB, 1944) 110 min.
Trailer: Hollywood Canteen
11:45 AM Hollywood Canteen (WB, 1944) 124 min.
Cartoon: Hollywood Canine Canteen (1946)
2:00 PM The Conspirators (WB, 1944) 102 min.
Trailer: Three Strangers
Cartoon: Hair-Raising Hare (1946) (Peter Lorre caricature)
4:00 PM Three Strangers (WB, 1946) 93 min.
Short: Travel Talks - Looking at London (1946)
Cartoon: Racketeer Rabbit (1946) (Peter Lorre caricature)
6:00 PM The Verdict (WB, 1946) 86 min.
Trailer: Casablanca
7:30 PM Casablanca: 50th Anniversary Special (WB, 1992) 30 min.
?Here?s Looking at You, Kid? ? The Films of Ingrid Bergman
8:00 PM Casablanca (WB, 1943) 101 min. (also with Peter Lorre and Sydney Greenstreet)
Cartoon: Falling Hare (1943)
10:00 PM Intermezzo, A Love Story (Selznick, 1939) 70 min. ps
Trailer: Gaslight
11:30 PM Gaslight (MGM, 1944) 114 min.
1:30 AM Spellbound (UA, 1945) 111 min.
Cartoon: The Hare-Brained Hypnotist (1942)
3:30 AM Saratoga Trunk (WB, 1946) 135 min.
Short: Travel Talks - Old New Orleans (1940)
FRIDAY, February 23rd
Casting Call for Gone with the Wind
6:00 AM The Singing Marine (WB, 1937) 105 min. (Jane Darwell to be cast as Mrs. Merriwether)
7:45 AM The Hot Heiress (WB, 1931) 79 min. (Ona Munson to be cast as Belle Watling)
9:15 AM Love, Honor and Behave (WB, 1938) 70 min. (Thomas Mitchell and Barbara O?Neill to be cast as Mr. and Mrs. O?Hara)
10:30 AM The Shopworn Angel (MGM, 1938) 86 min. (Hattie McDaniel to be cast as Mammy)
12 NOON It?s Love I?m After (WB, 1937) 91 minutes (Leslie Howard and Olivia deHavilland to be cast as Ashley Wilkes and Melanie Hamilton)
Short: The Monroe Doctrine (1939) (George Reeves to be cast as Brent Tarleton)
2:00 PM A Yank at Oxford (MGM, 1938) 103 min. (Vivien Leigh to be cast as Scarlett O?Hara)
VICTOR FLEMING BIRTHDAY TRIBUTE (films: Test Pilot and GWTW)
3:45 Test Pilot (MGM, 1938) 120 min. (directed by Victor Fleming, who will direct GWTW and starring Clark Gable to be cast as Rhett Butler)
Cartoon: The Coo Coo Nut Grove (1936) (Gable caricature)
6:00 PM The Making of a Legend: Gone with the Wind (MGM, 1988) 120 min. ps
A David O. Selznick Production ? a 24-hour salute to the films made by Selznick International Studio
8:00 PM Gone with the Wind (MGM, 1939) 220 min.
Trailer: A Star is Born
12 MID Since You Went Away (UA, 1944) 177 min.
3:00 AM Nothing Sacred (UA, 1937) 74 min.
4:15 AM The Adventures of Tom Sawyer (UA, 1938) 93 min.
SATURDAY, February 24th
A David O. Selznick Production (24-hour salute continues)
6:00 AM A Star is Born (UA, 1937) 111 min.
8:00 AM DARKNESS AFTER DAWN The Paradine Case (Selznick, 1948) 115 min. ps
10:00 AM Portrait of Jennie (Selznick, 1949) 87 min. ps
11:30 AM CARTOON ALLEY You Ought to Be in Pictures (1940), A Hare Grows in Manhattan (1947), and Hollywood Daffy (1946).
12:00 NOON LONE STAR CINEMA Duel in the Sun (Selznick, 1947) 145 min. ps
2:30 PM The Garden of Allah (UA, 1936) 79 min.
4:00 PM Little Lord Fauntleroy (UA, 1936) 102 min.
5:45 PM Rebecca (UA, 1940) 131 min.
Sidney Poitier Tribute (whose birthday was earlier this week)
8:00 PM THE ESSENTIALS In the Heat of the Night (UA, 1967) 110 min.
10:00 PM To Sir With Love (Columbia, 1967) 105 minutes PREMIERE
12:00 MID Guess Who's Coming to Dinner (Columbia, 1967) 109 min. ps
2:00 AM The Defiant Ones (UA, 1958) 97 min. ps
4:00 AM Lilies of the Field (UA, 1963) 95 min.
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Not yet, they won't. But they all make sense when you know the film. And they will starting becoming more obvious as we go along. : )
Clue #3: One kiss, two women.
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Glad that helps. So that should take care of three or four of the films you will present. Remember, you will be doing different themes, several a day, and each day for seven days will be different. Altogether, you will probably be programming something like 85 to 100 different movies over the entire week.
One other thing to be aware of is to check which studio a film was produced by. In the case of Alfred Newman, he was generally under contract to 20th Century Fox, and fo the most part their films are not available to TCM because Fox has its own movie channel. The ones that are generally good to use are mentioned in Rule #1 in my first post in this thread.
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Just general info about why you selected a certain theme, stuff like that. For example, "I've always wanted to have a dedication to actor ______ and thse were the films that I thought best represented his work, etc. etc."
If you look again at the previous Challenge links, you will find that you will see notes from participants decribing their choices, usually posted right after the schedule itself.
LAST DAY! ?THE TCM Programming Challenge: Take 5? with PRIZES
in TCM Program Challenges Archive
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Kubrick, you are not annoying. Those of us who have been doing these for awhile recall the excitement of creating the first one. I know you will work out the issues regarding the days and switches you want to make.
If it helps, one thing I do first are the special days that the host of each Challenge wants done in a specific way, then concentrate on the other days.