filmlover
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I am delighted this is appearing on TCM. In addition to marking the film debut of Burt Lancaster, it features excellent performances by Edmond O'Brien, Sam Levene, and Ava Gardner. Look for William Conrad and Charles McGraw as the hired guns.
Miklos Rozsa (composer of Double Indemnity, A Double Life, Ben-Hur, and many other great films) provides the score. For those of you who have never seen this film before, listen to the opening music where the killers approach the town and see if you recognize the underlying four-note motif from anywhere else. If you can identify it, post here. I'll check back after the film to see who got it.
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That was excellently written, lzcutter, thanks.
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That's what TCM means to me...
Thanks for writing that. See, that is it. TCM has come to mean different things for different people. That is why I asked lzcutter to find the "mission statement" of TCM, as it were, to get a more concrete view of what they program.
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"greatest"...Would that be Rocky? Rocky II?? Really, now???
"greatest"...Would that be Francis, Francis Joins the WACS, Francis Joins the Navy?? Really now???
The emphasis is really on "from the 1920s through the 1980s," and since that was written ten years ago, should now be moved up ten years.
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but I believe TCM's "mission statement," as it were, should be emphasizing pre-1960 film
Actually, they do have one and it has been printed a few times.
lzcutter, do you happen to have it and can you paste it here?
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Thanks, mrsl. Here is also something that TCM released that I think sums up what TCM defines as "Classic":
?WHAT?S CLASSIC?
Is it old?
Can it be new?
Often, a classic is the best of its kind.
Sometimes, it?s the worst.
Either way, it stands out.
A classic always stands out.
Classic can mean different things to different people.
You parents idea of classic is probably different than yours.
Your kids idea of classic is probably different, too.
Everybody has a classic.
Sometimes classic means the original,
Or the best-known,
Or the first of its kind.
Sometimes it means one of a kind.
You could argue that classic is extreme:
The saddest of the sad,
The bravest of the brave,
The gosh-darn charmingest of the charming.
Of all the things classic is, the one thing it?s not is one thing.
Classic is too big to be pinned down, too universal to be selfish.
Classic belongs to everybody.
Everybody has a classic.
Is it old? Yes.
Can it be new? Yes.
So, what?s classic?
Turner Classic Movies.
THAT?S CLASSIC.?
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I never tried to shut down the Lamarr thread. All I ever did was post one opinion that it was getting to be very much a wild party time in that thread. TooManyNotes, the troll, then proceeded to go nuclear and destroy everything and he is responsible for the damage that occured. And that troll is still with us today under various names.
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Well, please list one. I know you have three years of history as a member, so I can wait while you find it.
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Alright, since research isn't your thing, I will ask something easier of you, all this will require is using your memory: When have you ever contributed one positive thing to these boards?
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My opinion was, "I've yet to see otterhere and sweetbabykmd come up with one bit of research they have done. Seems they like to lay back and let others do everything."
Prove me wrong. Show me one bit of research you have done to back up your belief that TCM shows more recent films in the months that are not Oscar months.
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I happen to be at work during the day and don't have time to do things like that, plus I don't know how to find old schedules.
links are provided in a post a little further down.
I am at work, too, and busy but still have listed the info for your benefit.
And it is hard to consider that you think I am rude.
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otterhere, hello, did you read what I posted in the March schedule thread? I said the online schedule for December only lists from December 16th on, so it is useless to use. January, I gave you the stats from 1970-on.
But I trust your stats and wouldn't for one moment doubt their accuracy
If you think I am not accurate in my numbers, check the schedules yourself:
http://turnerclassicmovies.com/schedule/month/?cid=&oid=12/1/2006
http://turnerclassicmovies.com/schedule/month/?cid=&oid=1/1/2007
http://turnerclassicmovies.com/schedule/month/?cid=&oid=3/1/2007
I feel a breakdown by year from 1901-on only provides too much data, and the point is showing the total number of 1970-on films in the prime-time schedule.
If you want a year breakdown, do some work yourself.
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Great post, lzcutter.
And here's something interesting I noticed. The people who defend TCM's schedule (such as you or me or Kyle) actually do all the work and come up the facts of the statistics. I've yet to see otterhere and sweetbabykmd come up with one bit of research they have done. Seems they like to lay back and let others do everything.
Come on, otter and kmd, do the work, research, show us your facts by the numbers.
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...and the results for December 2006/January 2007, 1970 on???
Alright, here they are. Now, keep in mind, I am at work and don't have a Now Playing magazine, so I am using the TCM online schedule as it is for January. The one for December only starts at the 16th, so that wouldn't be fair to use either way.
1970-on movies for January 2007:
1st: 0
2nd: 0
3rd: 0
4th: 0
5th: 3
6th: 0
7th: 0
8th: 0
9th: 0
10th: 1
11th: 0
12th: 0
13th: 1
14th: 1
15th: 0
16th: 0
17th: 0
18th: 0
19th: 1
20th: 0
21st: 2
22nd: 0
23rd: 0
24th: 0
25th: 0
26th: 0
27th: 0
28th: 0
29th: 1
30th: 0
31st: 1 (at 1AM)
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I vote we title all future discussions on this subject "Curse of the Catty People"; do I hear a second?
Well, if you really wish to refer to yourself as such, I will second it.
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I picked 1970-on because that seems to be the major bone of contention with several people.
And throw in 60s movies - for the sticklers among us!!!
Geez, why don't I throw in 1955-on for those who post here who think nothing was good after then, or maybe I could make it from after 1945 who believe that everything was trash after WWII? Or even 1940-on who only like the Thirties, or even earlier for those who only like silents?
I will stand by the 1970-on.
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I just did a look at the evening prime time schedule for the month of March to analyze just how many 1970-on movies there are, since there seems to be so much concern by some that when they get home in the evening whenever they turn on the TV there is a more recent movie.
Here is a breakdown by day of how many 1970-on movies there are from 8PM-1:59AM EST (considering 2AM starts late late night and they shouldn't care) (and even on the West Coast here this schedule will translate as on between 5PM-10:59PM). I used 8PM because this is the time Robert Osborne starts his evening programming:
March:
(Remember, the first 3 days are still part of the Oscar salute)
1st: 2
2nd: 3
3rd: 1 (at 1AM)
4th: 0
5th: 0
6th: 0
7th: 0
8th: 0
9th: 0
10th: 0
11th: 0
12th: 0
13th: 1 (at 1:30 AM)
14th: 0
15th: 0
16th: 1
17th: 0
18th: 0
19th: 0
20th: 0
21st: 0
22nd: 0
23rd: 0
24th: 0
25th: 0
26th: 1 (at 12:30 am)
27th: 2
28th: 0
29th: 0
30th: 0
31st: 0
Gad, that's some flood of recent films.
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Glad to have you aboard, lz.
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2003 - 37 post-1970 films in primetime
2007 - 61 post-1970 films in primetime
Kyle,
I did a check of the 2004 Oscar month and there were 59 films from 1970-on. Not much difference three years ago to 2007.
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Hi, everyone,
Hop on over to the General Discussions Forum for details.
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filmlover
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Hi, everyone,
This is the first announcement for the upcoming Fifth TCM Programming Challenge that will start on February 1st in the General Discussions Forum. I have the honor of hosting this next Challenge and I hope to many of you on the boards participating in this fun contest...and in order to spice it up, I will be providing prizes (DVDs, filmbooks, etc.) to the three contestants who receive the most votes. And the winner will have the honor of hosting the sixth Challenge.
This contest is for ANYONE who would like the feeling of programming a week of TCM movies.
You may have already seen one of the previous four Challenges we have had in the General Discussion Forum during 2006. It is a lot of fun (and work, too). In doing the Challenge, you imagine yourself to be the TCM programmer and schedule one week of TCM programming (following certain criteria given at the beginning of each contest).
The TCM Programming Challenge is a fun-only contest for fans of TCM that was started here by fellow Message Board poster, path40a, in early 2006 as a great exercise for fans of TCM on the Message Board and is not sponsored by TCM. However, the TCM programmer looks in on each contest and if he finds ideas he likes he will borrow them to use as part of his schedule. Many of us have been fortunate enough to have our themes used on TCM.
Here's are samples of entries from our last Challenge contest:
http://forums.tcm.com/jive/tcm/thread.jspa?messageID=7858920
http://forums.tcm.com/jive/tcm/thread.jspa?messageID=7855779
http://forums.tcm.com/jive/tcm/thread.jspa?messageID=7859238
Do not start putting together any schedules yet, though. Each time someone hosts the Challenge, they get to add certain programming criteria to the contest, and I am am looking forward to introducing some of my own. Wait until February 1st to find out the rules.
Keep an eye out for future Challenge announcements.
filmlover
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I'd just like to know who let Rosie O'Donnell and Donald Trump become members on this board?
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I will say up front I am not a Rhonda Fleming fan. When I see A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court, I wonder at her lack of acting ability (in my opinion).
I had the misfortune to see her in person in a stage production circa 1976 of "Kismet" in Los Angeles, at the Dorothy Chandler, I think. Oh, she was bad! Instead of being in character as the others were in the production, her performance was that of a Hollywood star playing a Hollywood star. When the curtain call came, and this is no lie, everybody got their applause as they took their bows individually...except when she came out. The theater audience abruptly stopped applauding and the theater was silent, as if everyone else were also sitting on their hands. And the applause only resumed when the actor playing the main part came out. Believe me, she was so unwatchable that I started counting the cracks in the ceiling.
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Yes, thanks again, TCM. And if I recall correctly, didn't TCM state that the hunt was started in response to a person on these boards asking about the availability of Double Harness?
The Killers - one of the greatest film noirs on tonight (1/12)
in General Discussions
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Hi, ken123,
Just as I was about to post this, I noticed your new thread in the film noir gangsters section. I felt I better still go ahead and post mine because I felt more people check out the General Discussions forum and I wanted to let them know ASAP because it is on in less than an hour.
As far as film noir femme fatales, my favorite is Ella Raines.