filmlover
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Saturday, Feb. 12th, 1955
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Yes, as far as the logo goes, yes, I agree. But when you look at one of the cartoons, Mad As A Mars Hare, in the full screen version (not having the DVD's widescreen to compare it to), it is clear from a number of the images that they couldn't matte much without losing quite a bit of detail of main characters.
So, by your logic and reasoning, is it fair to say that you believe that all post-1953 cartoons in the Golden Collections are presented incorrectly?
By the way, this is my last post for a bit because I originally came on here this morning to be helpful to list the cartoons that are on the Blu that were not previously in the Golden collections. Now, a few hours later, it has turned into a debate, and that is not how I wish to waste my Sunday.
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> {quote:title=kriegerg69 wrote:}{quote}
> > {quote:title=filmlover wrote:}{quote}The correct aspect ratios for the ones marked with asterisks were the Academy 1:37 to 1. Check IMDB.
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> > Yes, as you stated they were matted widescreen, butwhen you matte something you are cutting off the tops and bottoms.
> I did...and IMDB info is visitor-submitted and not always accurate. The old full-frame ratio was the "Academy" ratio...but that info at IMDB was likely based on what someone saw either on home video or DVD. For complete accuracy, IMDB prefers to go with how it was actually seen in a theatrical showing. Then there is the point I exampled before about how the composition of the image looks, with all the "extra space" near the top and bottom of the image frame. To me that's a dead giveaway, especially based on how the WB logo looks in the later toons vs. tha earlier ones. Rather obvious.
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> "Cutting off the tops and bottoms"? Duh...that's how an open matte format works: Something is filmed full-frame but composed with the intended area to be seen when projected...the parts that are "cut off" were never meant to be seen or intended to be seen when viewed theatrically. (sorry, but that's a backwards comment I read all too often elsewhere when people complain about a full-frame version vs. a matted widescreen version)
But you don't know that for a fact, about the creators' intentions.
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The correct aspect ratios for the ones marked with asterisks were the Academy 1:37 to 1. Check IMDB.
Yes, as you stated they were matted widescreen, butwhen you matte something you are cutting off the tops and bottoms. From Wikipedia, regarding those single-DVD cropped discs: "Sadly, upon release of the discs of the first wave proved to be cropped and distorted and otherwise poorly restored to present the shorts in "widescreen" as opposed to their original aspect ratio (though these were just for the post-1953 shorts). Warner Bros. stated the reason for this was that all post-1953 WB shorts were shown in matted-widescreen in theaters. On December 1, 2010, animation expert Jerry Beck explained on the Shokus Internet Radio call-in talk program, Stu's Show that Warner aimed this series not at collectors but at the mass market who expect it to fit on their widescreen TVs. He speculated that at some point down the road there will probably be a double-dip release of those shorts in a collector's DVD version with the video in full-frame format.^"^
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Okay, I have gone through all 6 volumes of the Looney Tunes Golden Collection and these cartoons that are on the Blu-ray are not there. However, ones marked with an * have been on individual DVDs (but on those DVDs, they were cropped to look widescreen!):
1. Hasty Hare
2. Hareway to the Stars
3. Mad As A Mars Hare *
4. Bedevilled Rabbit *
5. Ducking the Devil *
6. Bill of Hare
7. Dr. Devil and Mr. Hare *
8. A Witch's Tangled Hare
9. Feline Frame-Up
10. From A to Z-z-z-z
11. Lovelorn Leghorn
plus there are the newer cartoons, which I have a feeling may have appeared somewhere before now:
Fright Before Christmas
Spaced-Out-Bunny
Duck Dodgers and the Return of the 24 1/2 Century
Another Froggy Evening
Marvin the Martian in the Third Dimension
Superior Duck
From Hare to Eternity
Father of the Bird
Museum Scream
and a quick edit to a post a day ago (since I can't get into edit it now), the following I read were exclusive to Blu, but that is not correct. Upon checking further, the ones marked in bold appear to be exclusive. The non-bold have been in the Golden collections:
A Greeting From Chuck Jones (SD, 4 min.)
Chuck Amuck: The Movie (SD, 51 min.)
Chuck Jones: Extremes and In-Betweens A Life in Animation (SD, 1 hr. 24 min.)
*Chuck Jones: Memories of Childhood* (SD, 26 min.) – Jones reminisces about different times in his childhood as rough storyboard animation illustrates his numerous stories. A very fun way to portray someone's history.
*'How the Grinch Stole Christmas' Pencil Test* (SD, 7 min.) – A very rough and rare look at the 'Grinch' as it was in production.
*'The Door'* (HD, 7 min.) – This is an anti-war cartoon that was produced by Bill Cosby. Animation fans will love the constantly changing styles of animation featured here.
*The Animated World of Chuck Jones* (HD/SD, 1 hr. 26 min.) – Quite a few miscellaneous cartoons that were previously locked away in the Warner vault are located here. All of them directed by Chuck Jones with six of them being produced for various branches of the U.S. military. *"Point Rationing of Foods," "Hell-Bent for Election," "So Much for So Little," "Orange Blossoms for Violet" "A Hitch in Time,"* "90 Day Wondering," *"The Dot and the Line: A Romance in Lower Mathematics," "The Bear That Wasn't" and* "Drafty, Isn't It?"
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Amazon's Blu-ray Deal of the Week just began at midnight and it is the Looney Tunes Platinum Ultimate Collector's Edition vol. 1 for $34.99
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Wow, talk about coincidences...Amazon's Blu-ray Deal of the Week just began at midnight and it is the Looney Tunes Platinum Ultimate Collector's Edition vol. 1 for $34.99
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It is in on the news now that Whitney Houson died this afternoon. Unknown cause at the moment.
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> {quote:title=MovieProfessor wrote:}{quote}
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> > You should go back and check the facts on this. Each Blu-ray season of Twilight Zone was 5 discs each, except for the second season, which had only 4. I know because I have them.
> You are correct! I too have the entire collection. However, I still stand by my feelings that Warner's could have compressed the Looney Tunes to the point of combining more shorts on one single Blu-ray! It can be done.
Yes, but to do so would have meant cutting down on the bytes per second, thus cutting down on video quality.
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No, it is your assumption that is incorrect. I know that a Blu-ray disc can hold a lot more on it, one of the things I love about it...I was saying that a high definition program uses more bytes than a standard definition program, thus taking up more space. For example, To Kill A Mockingbird has an average bit rate 6.95 mb/s on the DVD, while the Blu-ray version has an average bit rate of 28.74 mb/s.
"Another example of what I’m talking about is the new Blu-ray release of “The Twilight Zone” series. On standard DVD, each televised season was packed into one box set, consisting of 5 discs, resulting in 5 combined box sets. Consumers had a choice to purchase either a single season or the totally combined 5 season box set. *The new Blu-ray version has one entire season on just one disc! "*
You should go back and check the facts on this. Each Blu-ray season of Twilight Zone was 5 discs each, except for the second season, which had only 4. I know because I have them.
And a note about Blade Runner, while on the surface it appears there are three versions of the film on one disc, it is a case of branching, so you don't have three separate films crammed in one disc, it is that there is one version of the film that branches out to different elements on the disc to appear to be three different movies.
In the case of Looney Tunes, WB put the 50 cartoons on two discs. The third disc is made up of specials and whatnot, including some exclusive items for the Blu:
* *A Greeting From Chuck Jones* (SD, 4 min.) – Jones discusses how 'Looney Tunes' came about and then briefly introduces the most famous characters to us by enumerating their varied characteristics.
* *Chuck Amuck: The Movie* (SD, 51 min.) – This documentary, more or less, discusses the life of Chuck Jones and how he worked his way up through the animation ranks. Jones talks about creating characters and doing it with pieces of himself. A lot of stuff is talked about here and if you're a fan of Jones you'll want to sit back and watch the whole thing. You get an in-depth look into one of the world's most revered animators.
* *Chuck Jones: Extremes and In-Betweens A Life in Animation* (SD, 1 hr. 24 min.) – This all-inclusive documentary features critic Leonard Maltin, among others, and talks about the origins of 'Looney Tunes' how it got started, how it progressed, and how it became popular with the American people. Another in-depth documentary about the cartoons we love. It has some overlapping information that was discussed in "Chuck Amuck," but it's still worth a watch.
* *Chuck Jones: Memories of Childhood* (SD, 26 min.) – Jones reminisces about different times in his childhood as rough storyboard animation illustrates his numerous stories. A very fun way to portray someone's history.
* *'How the Grinch Stole Christmas' Pencil Test* (SD, 7 min.) – A very rough and rare look at the 'Grinch' as it was in production.
* *'The Door'* (HD, 7 min.) – This is an anti-war cartoon that was produced by Bill Cosby. Animation fans will love the constantly changing styles of animation featured here.
* *The Animated World of Chuck Jones* (HD/SD, 1 hr. 26 min.) – Quite a few miscellaneous cartoons that were previously locked away in the Warner vault are located here. All of them directed by Chuck Jones with six of them being produced for various branches of the U.S. military. "Point Rationing of Foods," "Hell-Bent for Election," "So Much for So Little," "Orange Blossoms for Violet" "A Hitch in Time," "90 Day Wondering," "The Dot and the Line: A Romance in Lower Mathematics," "The Bear That Wasn't" and "Drafty, Isn't It?"
* *Bonus Cartoons* (HD/SD, 1 hr. 12 min.) – There are numerous bonus cartoons included here. Many of them have holiday type themes. "Fright Before Christmas" (Bugs Bunny's Looney Christmas Tales), "Spaced-Out Bunny" ('Bugs Bunny's Bustin' Out All Over'), "Duck Dodgers and the Return of the 24 1/2th Century" ('Daffy Duck's Thanks-For-Giving Special'), "Another Froggy Evening," "Marvin the Martian in the Third Dimension," "Superior Duck," "From Hare to Eternity," "Father of the Bird" and "Museum Scream." All of them are presented in standard definition except for "Museum Scream" which is provided in HD.
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> {quote:title=MovieProfessor wrote:}{quote}
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> Allow me to make it all clear . . . The DVD Golden Collection is and will probably remain for some time, the largest and most informative video release of the Warner Brothers cartoon shorts. The Blu-ray version is in some respects a rehash of what has already been released. This HD version of the series was expected. Only time will tell, if this new Blu-ray series will out rank the regular DVD version by way of the number of shorts. Besides, I was surprised that volume one of the Platinum Collection on Blu-ray, which has larger space, only has 50 shorts, the same as the regular DVD version! I would have expected double that number on a Blu-ray! Anyway, it's a sure bet that the HD version of these cartoons will cost a whole lot more! So, if anyone isn't so prone as to want 1080P and settle for 480P, they'd be saving themselves a lot of time and effort, if not, money.
High definition takes up more space than regular DVD. And as for the price, the DVD volumes had a $65 each list price. The Blu had a $60 list price.
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LOL, look two posts below yours.
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> Sadly, the series on DVD is now, I repeat, *now out of print*. If you want it, there are still a reasonable amount of copies floating around, but these will probably disappear soon enough. Once the current supply has been brought up, it will be almost impossible for any store or distributor to order any new copies. The existing supply is now priced at anywhere from $130.00 to just under $200.00. I didn't waste anytime and quickly brought my copy. I even have the original Laser Disc set! Anyway, I think this is the most convenient and exhilarating way of having most of the best Looney Tunes and Merry Melodies of classic animation.
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Your information is incomplete. Recently, WB issued volume one of the Looney Tunes Platinum Collection on Blu-ray. This collection has 50 of the cartoons in high definition and they look better than they did on DVD. The set also has thirty-seven audio commentaries, seventeen alternate audio programs, three documentaries, eleven featurettes, nineteen bonus shorts, and a 52-page Digibook.
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Amazon has a sale on the Jack Lemmon Film Collection (Phffft!/ Operation Mad Ball/The Notorious Landlady/Under the Yum Yum Tree/Good Neighbor Sam) and the Kim Novak Collection (Picnic/Jeanne Eagels/Bell, Book and Candle/Middle of the Night/Pal Joey) for $18.49 each (60% off the list price):
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I guess I wasn't as clear as I could have been in my OP. I was referring to the tough, serious women of films like Red River and To Have An Have Not. I would throw in Angie Dickenson in Rio Bravo as another one of that ilk. Not comedy and not the ones he had the hots for in his personal life. But no reason we can't praise the others like Sugarpuss O'Shea, etc.
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Thurs., Feb. 10th, 1955
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I really like Joanne Dru's character in "Red River." It's easy to recognize her as a Howard Hawks' woman, strong, passionately devoted to her man. She's cut from the same cloth as "Slim" (Lauren Bacall) in "To Have And Have Not," but I like Dru 's character better, which is probably due to Dru herself.
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Upcoming releases:
Diplomaniacs (1933) - Bert Wheeler, Robert Woolsey, Marjorie White, Phyllis Barry, Louis Calhern
Kentucky Kernels (1934) - Bert Wheeler, Robert Woolsey, Mary Carlisle, George 'Spanky' McFarland, Noah Beery
On Again Off Again (1937) - Bert Wheeler, Robert Woolsey, Marjorie Lord
The Rainmakers (1935) - Bert Wheeler, Robert Woolsey, Dorothy Lee, Berton Churchill, George Meeker
British Agent (1934) - Leslie Howard, Kay Francis, William Gargan, dir. Michael Curtiz
Also out will be Season 2, Volumes 1 & 2 of The FBI.
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Wed, Feb. 9th, 1955
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I will be watching. My favorite film of the year, Hugo, is nominated. Just because GG doesn't exist anymore is not a reason to stop watching the Oscars.
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Mon., Feb. 7th, 1955
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David,
I am not sure if you have been to the exhibit before, but it only takes about 15 minutes to see them all, and you really don't need a curator. It's free to the public.
It should also be mentioned that the FIDM is in downtown Los Angeles, and it is a 20-minute subway ride from Hollywood.
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David,
You don't need a curator. From past years' experiences (I go every year), it only takes about 15 minutes to walk through, and it's free.
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VHS also takes up a lot more space. I dumped about 20 or 30 in the last few days in order to make room.
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