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So, in watching the discussion of High Society today, I found it difficult to agree that High Society's musical numbers give more depth to the characters. I would argue it has less dimension than the non-musical Philadelphia Story. I see just as much psychoanalysis of Tracy in the original as the father tells her a daughter's love is what keeps a father young, and his affairs are her fault. I've always felt that that aspect of the tale was a "Just, wow!" moment that is hard for contemporary women to swallow. They cut her down to size quite deftly in the original with the same complaints about her expectations of others. Hepburn's Tracy is far more transformed from ice queen to a woman who embraces people and herself as they are and she is. I don't see a convincing change in Kelly's Tracy. I do love the music in High Society. Any Louis Armstrong is good music. Likewise Cole Porter. I agree that the most delightful couple is Bing and Louis. This is what I watch an otherwise watered down movie. Grace is stunningly beautiful, but Hepburn outacts her by miles. Cary and Jimmy are also leagues ahead of Crosby and Sinatra in depth of character, nuance in performance, and bringing issues of class to the front. I found it interesting in comparing this movie's exploration of class and how the "mighty have fallen" as a bit out of place in the prosperous for white-America 50s where it was right in line with the original Philadelphia Story's 1940 preference of the average Joe, deflation of the rich as America had not yet come out of the Depression. What do others feel about High Society?

I plan to go see Ocean's Eight. I'm looking forward to it. I enjoyed the first remake of Ocean's 11 and enjoyed the original (being born and raised there almost requires me to be a Rat Pack aficionado). After watching what happened to the Ghostbusters remake (which I saw and liked - not as much as the original but that was lightening in a bottle). Some say it is a gender thing that was wrong with the Ghostbusters. Which movie franchises do you like? Which remakes do you like? Why?