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  1. We did a list a while back on the recently defunct Back Alley Forums that listed all the Noirs that took place around the Christmas Holidays there are more than you'd think. What got me thinking of this was watching Roadblock which had some Christmas decorations, etc., etc. So lets make a list of Noirs that take place around the Christmas Holidays. I'll start with these: Christmas Holiday Roadblock Crime Wave I, The Jury Blast Of Silence add more as we think of them
  2. This discussion thread for proto-noir, like the Film Noir to Neo-Noir discussion thread, is based on ideas taken from the Summer of Darkness, HEYMOE, VanHazard, and me (Marianne). This discussion thread is a way to continue applying what we learned in Dr. Edwards’s course, TCM Presents Into the Darkness: Investigating Film Noir (aka Summer of Darkness: Investigating Film Noir). We are updating the list of film noir characteristics to start an investigation of proto-noir. Please use as many or as few characteristics as you like to discuss proto-noir and how a particular film could presage t
  3. Positive that I’m not the only one who will watch the same movies over and over and over (drives my wife crazy); The big names almost everyone knows but that secondary tier and below the names get more and more obscure. Having said that one of my favorites is Steven Geray. He is the low level clerk corrupted by Zachery Scott in “The Mask Of Dimitrois” and the washroom clerk in “Gilda”. In the only film where he is the lead is the low budget “So Dark The Night” and for a B film noir it is surprisingly good ( better than some A level big budget noirs). So Dark The Night is worth tracking do
  4. Hello everyone. I have mentioned several times that I am a Glenn Ford fan and that I want to see every movie he ever made. I have a high percentage of movies seen from his big screen career-past 85%. I thought it was time to start a favourite forum thread on Glenn Ford. Here are some of my favourite Glenn Ford movies in no particular order except the first film: Gilda, which is the first film I saw with him and in my opinion is the sexiest movie I've ever seen. Here are *some* of my favourites: GILDA 3:10 TO YUMA THE GAZEBO THE TEAHOUSE OF THE AUGUST MOON TORPEDO
  5. Hello all, Are the materials for this course still online somewhere? (Or is there a kind soul who may be able to provide them?) A recent trip to Los Angeles inspired me to revisit film noir in a comprehensive for the first time in a decade and Summer of Darkness is perfect for what I want, but obviously long since passed. I’ve emailed TCM with the same question but haven’t received a reply. Any tips out there, even if it is just a syllabus? All I’ve found is the TV schedule. Many thanks in advance for any suggestions!
  6. Does anyone agree with me that the MGM film Party Girl was the final Film Noir after Hollywood gave goodbye to this mysterious yet unique genre. You are most welcome to either agree or disagree with this topic.
  7. Not a made-for-TV movie. Probably a 1940 film noir. "The poster remembers the plot like this: a man and his mistress have either just killed, or are about to kill, the man's wife. The wife was about to go on a train trip, so the mistress impersonates the wife to create an alibi, etc. The man also sent a fake letter to himself, pretending it to be from the wife. However, some passengers on the train somehow figured out the mistress wasn't the wife, and the train was stopped, the police started investigating the missing wife.The poster thinks the movie was black-and-white but gave a range a
  8. This discussion thread is based on ideas taken from the Summer of Darkness, HEYMOE, VanHazard, and me (Marianne). We’re working on defining neo-noir and all its subcategories and on compiling a list of neo-noir movies. This first post is simply a way to continue the discussion, which got started under the discussion thread called “Irrational Man: Neo-Noir Masquerading as a Film About Philosophy?” I hope the discussion includes reactions to seeing some of the movies. Borrowings from film noir to define neo-noir and modern neo-noir: 1. Chiaroscuro for black and white films, intense or muted
  9. Classic Film Lovers, I would like to introduce you to my latest project, Chalk. It's a comedic film noir with all the classic film noir tropes and even more laughs. We pay homage to classic noirs, while bringing a fresh, youthful spin. A tongue and cheek comedy that touches on sensitive subjects such as gentrification, urban displacement, and self-identity. It's a city of chalk slowly being replaced by dry-erase. Our lead detective is trying to solve a string of murders that have left the city on edge. It's most recent loss, the celebrated mayor of Chalk City. The suspect, the mayors
  10. I appreciate the lecture on film noir by Dr. Edwards. It gives clarity to what makes film noir "film noir." I have seen a number of the better known and lesser known films noir, courtesy of TCM, especially when the theme of the evening or month is film noir. That said, I feel the Dr. Edwards is trying to prove a point that isn't there. Hitchcock has long been a sort of genre or type of film unto himself. If I were to put a film noir such as "Kiss of Death" or "Double Indemnity" side by side with any of Hitchcock's films (and let's use "Shadow of A Doubt"), I would be hard pressed to see th
  11. Hello fellow film noir fans, Like all of you I love film noir - grew up watching it and even wrote several plays inspired by it (all published and widely produced). I also taught a college course in it. So, I’m the author of a new book with a totally different look at film noir, “Film Noir production: the Whodunit of the Classic American Mystery Film” from Routledge. Focal Press. I know – another book on Film Noir, really? Well, yes. Because as a member of the Mystery Writer’s of America, an award winning screenwriter/playwright and a working professional in the film/TV industry
  12. Noir City returns to San Francisco's legendary Castro Theatre and the theme and schedule has been released. ---> http://www.noircity.com/ 10 Days of Heists, Hold-Ups, and Schemes Gone Awry There are some great films on the bill such as Criss Cross, Asphalt Jungle, Rififi. There are also some neo-noir films, too. I'm very disappointed that they left Heat (1995) off the bill. THAT I would've loved to see on the big screen again.
  13. Hello there! I need help remembering the name of a movie I watched on TCM the week of June 11th. It was a black and white film, later 30s to mid 40s, set in England. There was a male character who arrived at a rich woman's house and ended up killing her. The subplot was there were people dying in the town, which he was responsible for. The elderly woman was in a wheel chair, but could walk. The main actor in the final act, cut telephone lines. He also flirted with the elderly woman's granddaughter. At the end of the film, he smothers her with a pillow. The lead actor had an Irish accen
  14. I've noticed some similarities between film noir & slapstick that previously I'd never seen. Primarily they involve subversion: class, age, social norms, morality, violence, exaggeration,& others. I'd love to learn how others may think about this, to me, previously non-considered similarities.
  15. If you're in the San Francisco Bay Area, the Castro Theatre is hosting the final run of the I Wake Up Dreaming Film Noir Festival every Wednesday in August. http://iwakeupdreaming.com/2016/07/i-wake-up-dreaming-2016-august-at-the-castro/
  16. If you're in the San Francisco Bay Area, the Castro Theatre is hosting the final run of the I Wake Up Dreaming Film Noir Festival every Wednesday in August. http://iwakeupdreaming.com/2016/07/i-wake-up-dreaming-2016-august-at-the-castro/
  17. I can't remember any useful details about this movie, except that it may have aired on TCM sometime from November 2015 to January 2016. Black and white. The setting is tropical or at least very hot and humid. Possibly on an island but I'm not sure. I think someone travels to the tropical place because they get a letter from a person there (a friend or in-law maybe) but the sender turns out to be either dead or missing when they arrive (I realize this sounds like the plot of The Third Man, and therefore I don't fully trust the recollection). There's general suspicion. I think a woma
  18. JOHN GARFIELD: DEAD BEFORE HE COULD REACH 40, THE AGE HE BELIEVED ACTORS BECAME GREAT ACTORS. John Garfield was a major movie star during the studio system era. He was an activist and campaigned for a role in Gentleman's Agreement opposite Gregory Peck about anti-Semitism. He won the role. Garfield was himself Jewish. Garfield was ready to join the fight in WWII and showed up only to fail the medical - 4F - like a lot of Hollywood stars did - because of heart problems. But Garfield wanted to contribute to the war effort as best he could and joined Bette Davis in starting Holly
  19. http://www.ultimatemovierankings.com/film-noir-movies/ Many thanks to ClassicMovieRankings for completing my requested page for Film Noir on his Ultimate Movie Rankings website. I love it Bruce. I have seen 186 movies listed with plenty on my to-see list. What an Easter present for me.
  20. It's that time of year. Starts tonight through the end of the month. http://noircity.com
  21. Last night I watched Rififi that french film directed by Jules Dassin. Recall from our class that Jules was one of those 10 Black listed Hollywood writers, directors, etc. from House Unamerican Activities Commission times of the late 1940's and early 50's. Rififi is heist story and very well done. I highly recommend it. This was on Blu-ray and so there was some extras. There was an interview with Dassin from 2000 and he tells stories of Hollywood, the Blacklist, and the process of making the film.
  22. I remember watching a movie on TCM (don't we all) maybe 5 to 6 years ago. I believe it was a film noir, but it could have been a spy/war film. It was in black and white and was probably made post WWII (but maybe not). The scenario that sticks in my mind deals with a good guy who is captured by the guys, then held captive in a room and drugged. Somehow he clears up from the drugs enough to hide in the room and when one of the bad guys comes in the room, he knocks him out and gives him drugs they were going to give him (I think). Then he puts the bad guy in the bed in his place and cover
  23. This is very vague, but I remember seeing a bit of a movie a long time ago, and I have no idea what it was... I remember that there was a murder and the body was dumped in some kind of construction area and ended up being covered in cement. I think someone witnessed this happening through a window. It was definitely a black and white movie. I've tried googling it and I've never come up with anything. Any ideas? (Also, for some reason, I was convinced Jimmy Stewart was in it and played a lawyer, but I may be mixing that up with some other movie.)
  24. Although I didn't get a chance to see as many films noir as I would've wanted during #NoirSummer, one thing that the course did do was to pique my interest about many, many films. I mean, I'm sure I will check out In a Lonely Place soon after Eddie Muller's enthusiastic thumbs-up! One of the sources for that curiosity were the Daily Doses. With most of those short clips, I found myself intrigued as to what would happen next, and I'm sure I will check out most of those sooner or later. So to keep it contained to a certain amount of films, choose your five favorite films from the 32 Da
  25. Would any of you like to continue discussing film noir or other topics after this course has expired? If so, I noticed there's a "Film Noir-Gangster " thread under the "Genre Forum" on this TCM Message Board. Mayhaps we can continue there?
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