slaytonf Posted July 14, 2016 Share Posted July 14, 2016 Notwithstanding the all-starryness of The Magnificent Seven, there are some roles that to my mind could have been cast better. Nobody doubts the magnificence of Yul Brynner, Steve McQueen, James Coburn, and Charles Bronson. And Robert Vaughn, though perhaps nearing borderline non-magnificence, still has the starch and gloves to pass muster. But I have to say, I would like to have seen someone like James Garner in Harry Luck's role (of course, that's pipe dreams, but dreaming is free). And for puppy-dog Chico, maybe Sal Mineo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LawrenceA Posted July 14, 2016 Share Posted July 14, 2016 Needs more Denzel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slaytonf Posted July 14, 2016 Author Share Posted July 14, 2016 Well, I was considering contemporary actors, but a modern remake would be good to include him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dargo Posted July 14, 2016 Share Posted July 14, 2016 Well, I was considering contemporary actors, but a modern remake would be good to include him [Denzel]. Then you're in luck, slayton. Coming soon to a cineplex near you... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ieowHLN3lQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slaytonf Posted July 14, 2016 Author Share Posted July 14, 2016 Luck? Didn't see much magnificence there. 'Cept Denzel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr6666 Posted July 14, 2016 Share Posted July 14, 2016 Horst Buchholzis the only one who bothers me, but considering it was 1960, what young Latino actors could have been cast? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slaytonf Posted July 14, 2016 Author Share Posted July 14, 2016 Inquiring minds would like to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkblue Posted July 14, 2016 Share Posted July 14, 2016 Improve it? No such thing. Yes, it can be a more realistic move -read dirtier. Or it can have a lot more action, more blood, more stunts, more imaginative killings. But it can't duplicate the reverence that the original inspired. The world has changed too much. The flawless characterizations put forward by McQueen, Wallach, Vaughn, Bronson, will not be matched with today's propensity for less character development in favor of ooh and ahh action. Then again, maybe once my generation has passed away, the original will be less revered than something newer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sepiatone Posted July 14, 2016 Share Posted July 14, 2016 I sometimes, to pass the time, think of ways to remake or even "update" some movies, or simply leave the basic premise alone. Like once, I was thinking of how I would cast a "remake" of ON THE WATERFRONT, but not change the period of time the original took place. I tried the same with other movies, like THE MAN WHO SHOT LIBERTY VALANCE. I mean, WHO TODAY could do that original cast any justice? I thought, while watching TM7 last night, and after hearing Carradine mention it's inspiration from SEVEN SAMURAI, that there have been movies that PREDATE Samuri that had a similar premise. You know, a gang of bandits that terrorize ome small town. And I immediately came up with THE WILD ONE. And I thought, "Wouldn't it be a kick if someone found some long hidden fact that Akira Kurosawa got the inspiration for HIS movie from IT?" I mean, I don't mind many remakes, but think in the case of movies long held in "high regard", the remakes should be treated as they do with restaging Shakespeare plays. I mean, I've known of sets and costumes being more or less "updated", but the text never changes. Sepiatone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dabb Posted July 14, 2016 Share Posted July 14, 2016 They could have rounded out the cast of From Dusk till Dawn to seven principals and retitled it The Magnificent Seven. Yeah.. that would have been extremely watchable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaveGirl Posted July 14, 2016 Share Posted July 14, 2016 Um, Japanese subtitles? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesJazGuitar Posted July 14, 2016 Share Posted July 14, 2016 Horst Buchholz is the only one who bothers me, but considering it was 1960, what young Latino actors could have been cast? What bothers you about him? His acting in the film? That he doesn't come off as authentic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MovieMadness Posted July 14, 2016 Share Posted July 14, 2016 What, no all-female cast for the remake? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamradio Posted July 14, 2016 Share Posted July 14, 2016 If one is stuck with the label Magnificent, how can it be improved? (what comes after magnificent?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slaytonf Posted July 14, 2016 Author Share Posted July 14, 2016 What bothers you about him? His acting in the film? That he doesn't come off as authentic? For me, yes. He's the worst thing in the movie. Brad Dexter is just indifferent. Bucholz is bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesJazGuitar Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 For me, yes. He's the worst thing in the movie. Brad Dexter is just indifferent. Bucholz is bad. I would agree Bucholz gives the worst performance in the film. As for actors of Mexican decent, Ricardo Montalban would have been an improvement but he might have been too old for the role. But if one is going to complain about the casting of Bucholz because of his heritage (which you're not), what about Eli Wallach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess of Tap Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 What, no all-female cast for the remake? 7 Samurai The only Improvement I can think of is to go back to the original movie directed by Kurosawa and starring Toshiro Mifune. I think that's with the-all Japanese cast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slaytonf Posted July 15, 2016 Author Share Posted July 15, 2016 I would agree Bucholz gives the worst performance in the film. As for actors of Mexican decent, Ricardo Montalban would have been an improvement but he might have been too old for the role. But if one is going to complain about the casting of Bucholz because of his heritage (which you're not), what about Eli Wallach. I have no problem with people of one ethnicity playing another, after all, it's acting. I think Mr. Wallach delivers his usual serviceable Mexican Bad Guy, though his Tuco had a little more depth to him, and even one fine moment on the road in The Good, Bad, 'n Ugly. Now I think of it, Tony Franciosa could have done a good job as Chico, though he may have been a little old for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dargo Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 George Chakiris maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slaytonf Posted July 15, 2016 Author Share Posted July 15, 2016 Sounds like a good possibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkblue Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 7 Samurai The only Improvement I can think of is to go back to the original movie directed by Kurosawa and starring Toshiro Mifune. I think that's with the-all Japanese cast. It's also an eastern. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scsu1975 Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 Remake it with a lovely girl leading seven vertically-challenged gunslingers, and call it Snow White and the Magnificent Seven Dwarfs. Any candidates for "Dopey"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dabb Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 Remake it with a lovely girl leading seven vertically-challenged gunslingers, and call it Snow White and the Magnificent Seven Dwarfs. Any candidates for "Dopey"? My hat's in the ring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swithin Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 I have no problem with people of one ethnicity playing another, after all, it's acting. I think Mr. Wallach delivers his usual serviceable Mexican Bad Guy, though his Tuco had a little more depth to him, and even one fine moment on the road in The Good, Bad, 'n Ugly. Eli Wallach, whom I knew pretty well, was a great actor and a lovely man. Pretty early in his career, he originated the role of Alvaro Mangiacavallo in The Rose Tattoo on Broadway in 1951, for which he won a Tony Award. He was close to Tennessee Williams and appeared in many productions of Williams plays. Eli was offered a part in the film From Here to Eternity but turned it down because he had promised Tennessee that he would play the lead in Camino Real, when funding came through for that very strange play. The part Eli turned down in From Here to Eternity went to Frank Sinatra. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scsu1975 Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 The part Eli turned down in From Here to Eternity went to Frank Sinatra. Hmmm ... so that horse's head had nothing to do with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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