Palmerin Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 ... is that the clothes of Dunaway, her hair and makeup, and the hair of Beatty, Hackman and Pollard are pure 1960s fashions that have nothing to do with those items as depicted in the many 1930s movies that TCM broadcasts. 'tis absolutely exasperating how film makers consistently allow themselves to be deceived by the standards of beauty and fashion of their own time periods! Even BARRY LYNDON, a movie that works extra hard to present an accurate image of the 18th century, is ruined by the fact that its leading lady, Marisa Berenson, totally looks like a 1970s playgirl who chooses to go to the disco dressed up in 18th century petticoats. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hibi Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 No comparison in the way Dunaway looked in the movie and pictures of the real Bonnie. Totally glamorized........ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownGoesFrazier Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 No comparison in the way Dunaway looked in the movie and pictures of the real Bonnie. Totally glamorized........ There was at least one previous film that dealt with the Bonnie and Clyde saga in an un-glamorous way, wasn't there? Mostly forgotten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyCronin Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 I find the female hairstyle anachronisms very jarring every time I have watched "Anne of the Thousand Days". Most of them just scream late-1960s. I guess that decade was the most guilty of this type of inconsistency in terms of makeup and hairstyles. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slaytonf Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 Hey! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopBilled Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 There was at least one previous film that dealt with the Bonnie and Clyde saga in an un-glamorous way, wasn't there? Mostly forgotten. Probably more than one. Fritz Lang's film comes to mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hibi Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 There was at least one previous film that dealt with the Bonnie and Clyde saga in an un-glamorous way, wasn't there? Mostly forgotten. Beats me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LornaHansonForbes Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 There was at least one previous film that dealt with the Bonnie and Clyde saga in an un-glamorous way, wasn't there? Mostly forgotten. THEY LIVE BY NIGHT based on THIEVES LIKE US? Nic Ray film from 1949 with Farley Granger? Really, really good movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hibi Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 Oh, that. It was also remade in the 70s by Robert Altman. That might be what he's thinking of, though the story was fictional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LornaHansonForbes Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 Oh, that. It was also remade in the 70s by Robert Altman. That might be what he's thinking of, though the story was fictional. yes, and he used the original title of the book it is based on("Thieves like Us"); one i might add which makes a HELL OF A LOT MORE SENSE than THEY LIVE BY NIGHT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hibi Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 yes, and he used the original title of the book it is based on("Thieves like Us"); one i might add which makes a HELL OF A LOT MORE SENSE than THEY LIVE BY NIGHT. They Live by Night sounds racier! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LornaHansonForbes Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 i only recently saw BONNIE AND CLYDE for the first time, and then I watched it for the second time this week (on Friday?) as part of the Hackman SOTM. I liked it a lot better the second time, ALTHOUGH (and I think the same thing happened after the first time i saw it) I went and looked up the "real story" of Bonnie and Clyde (at least the wikipedia version) and they missed out on some chances to make it better. (ie, the undertaker played by Gene Wilder was actually "kidnapped" and released by the gang, in real life Bonnie (who was not offended or spooked by his profession) said to him "maybe you'll be laying me out some day soon" and- sure enough- when she died, he was called to id and then embalm her body.) they also got a lot of the Estelle Parsons character wrong too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LornaHansonForbes Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 although... the acting across the board is pretty damned great in BONNIE AND CLYDE, even from Beatty- who's never been a favorite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hibi Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 Dont count on Hollywood giving an accurate account of any historical figures........ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LornaHansonForbes Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 Dont count on Hollywood giving an accurate account of any historical figures........ that is the damn truth. but some of the details they left out actually would've improved the film, i think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LornaHansonForbes Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 (and maybe they left the detail about Gene's character returning to id and embalm them because they wanted the movie to end right then and there on such a shocking note.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LawrenceA Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 I don't think Bonnie & Clyde was really interested in telling a truthful, historical tale. It was more an exercise in style, and a metaphorical take on the morality of the time (1960's). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vautrin Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 Dorothy Provine starred in The Bonnie Parker Story in 1958, a low-budget AIP flick. No more factual than the 1967 flick. I've heard about it but have never seen it. Cigar smoking hellcats. Yeah, got to keep an eye on them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Kimble Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 I saw an interview with Arthur Penn where he defended B&C by saying he set out to make a film about the 1960s, not the 1930s. With that in mind he specifically avoided things like going over Walker Evans photos to recapture that look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamradio Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 Major fault is that Warren Beatty... ...does NOT look like the homely looking Clyde Barrow. (not even a little!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownGoesFrazier Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 THEY LIVE BY NIGHT based on THIEVES LIKE US? Nic Ray film from 1949 with Farley Granger? Really, really good movie. Not that. I am certain that I once stumbled upon an obscure old movie in which there were characters named Clyde Barrow and Bonnie Parker. Help me out here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Kimble Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 The Get Smart episode "The Secret of Sam Vittorio" features an appearance by Floyd Darrow and Connie Barker, the daughter of a carny barker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownGoesFrazier Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 The Get Smart episode "The Secret of Sam Vittorio" features an appearance by Floyd Darrow and Connie Barker, the daughter of a carny barker This was an old feature film. It's possible that Bonnie and Clyde were just secondary characters in a film about something else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MovieMadness Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 Major fault is that Warren Beatty... ...does NOT look like the homely looking Clyde Barrow. (not even a little!) And rumor was Faye Dunaway would not let her armpits grow out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hibi Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 Dorothy Provine starred in The Bonnie Parker Story in 1958, a low-budget AIP flick. No more factual than the 1967 flick. I've heard about it but have never seen it. Cigar smoking hellcats. Yeah, got to keep an eye on them. LOL!!! Would love to see this one.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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