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I finally had a chance to see Casino Royale and enjoyed it even more than I thought I would. I grew up on the Bond films in the 60's and loved the Connery films, and very few since. I feel CR really gets back to the basics and concentrates on the character and not on all those stupid gadgets. Anyone else have any thoughts on the "new" Bond (Daniel Craig), or any of the other interpretations in this long-running series?

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I enjoyed Casino Royale, except one theme is missing, even from the Fleming books, the movie took itself too serious. The whole idea of the Bond movies was it's subtle satire and slams on pop culture and the suppposed "hip" people. The new film does not have the kitch and is more liken to the series "24" than Bond movies. Now, I did like it, but the Bond Franchise has now become what it used to make fun of.. maudlin spies that are too serious and dark thematics. I did like it and recommend the movie, but do not expect a Bond Film, more like Tom Clancy than Ian Fleming.

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I saw it the second week it was out and really liked it. I though Craig was quite good. It did lack even the humor of Connery's films but it got away from what most people complained about, the bad jokes and over-the-top gadgets. It would have been good to stick with the original card game rather than the poker.

 

The hardest thing to get hold of was that this was actually a prequel because of Judy Dench. I love her but if they are going back it might have been easier if she hadn't been in the previous three.

 

That sounds like a lot of complaining but I really did like it.

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RTRiley,

Very accurate observations about the lack of satire. I'm hoping that they went intentionally severely serious to help erase the last couple of decades that often bordered on camp. I think the last scene where Craig finally uses the "Bond, James Bond" introduction as the original Bond theme music (one of the best scores ever) begins and rolls over the credits is an indication of the future tone. As this Bond gets established perhaps they'll reintroduce the satire while keeping him deadly serious.

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My favourite Bond film is On Her Majesty's Secret Service. It's almost a non-Bond film, though, because it's so radically different from the other Bond films.

 

I haven't bothered with Casino Royale. It just doesn't sound terribly interesting. I think Bond is a concept that probably should have been left in the 60s.

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On Her Majesty's Secret Service is one of the better Bonds. Diana Rigg is one of the strongest Bond-girls of all time, which makes the end of the movie even more touching. Telly Savalas was a decent villain. Poor George Lazenby had to be the first to step into Connery's shoes, and that's almost always a losing proposition to follow an original that was so popular. The movie wasn't that well received at the time of release (I can remember my Dad taking me to it), but it has held up over time better than any of the Moore Bonds, in my opinion. But don't discount Casino Royale, it is completely different than any Bond movie sine Connery gave up the role, you may enjoy it.

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> On Her Majesty's Secret Service is one of the

> better Bonds. Diana Rigg is one of the strongest

> Bond-girls of all time, which makes the end of the

> movie even more touching.

 

It was certainly an intersting experiment, not only picking a very fine actress to play the Bond Girl but picking one who was inevitably going to overshadow poor George Lazenby. Althogh personally I think Lazenby did quite well. He made no attempt to copy Connery's performance, and gave us a totally different interpretation of the role. His inexperience did show, but given time I think he could have developed into a pretty decent Bond. It was also a courageous decision to eliminate gadgets from the movie.

 

> Telly Savalas was a decent

> villain.

 

I have to make a confession here. I'm really fond of Telly Savalas. OK, you would never have picked him to play King Lear, but as an over-the-top villain he was always fun. He's especially good in Mario Bava's criminally underrated Lisa and the Devil.

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Telly certainly proved he could play the nasty, he was great in The Dirty Dozen. I just have trouble not thinking of Telly with a lollipop in his mouth, which takes some of the sting out of his evil.

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Of all the Bond movies my favorite has to be Goldfinger. Gert Frobe and Harold Sakata are incredible villains. Honor Blackman was coming off the early seasons of the Avengers, and of course the Austin Martin. The music is outstanding, the score as well as Shirley Bassey belting out the title tune. And my all-time favorite villain quote, "No, Mr. Bond, I expect you to die!"

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I gave up on the Bond films with "Goldeneye." Previously, I'd liked them despite their ups and downs.

 

"Goldfinger" gets my vote for the best, although I like "From Russia With Love" and "Dr. No" among the Connery ones. "On Her Majesty's Secret Service" starts slow but is very good. As for Roger Moore, "For Your Eyes Only" and "Octopussy" are my favorites, with "Live and Let Die" being pretty good.

 

Frankly, most Bond films have their enjoyable moments and are fun. "The Living Daylights" the last Roger Moore one, with Grace Jones as a villain who sacrifices herself for Bond, was the only complete stinker.

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Not to be the correction police, but, the Grace Jones Bond was A View To A Kill (1985). The Living Daylights was a Timothy Dalton Bond that wasn't half-bad. But all the titles and plots from the mid 70s through the mid 80s run together in my mind. Please don't bring up the southern sheriff whatever you do!

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Yes, I did like "Living Daylights." "A View to a Kill" was so bad that the Duran Duran song was the best thing in it. My mind was probably trying to block the essential badness of "View to a Kill."

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I haven't seen the new Bond film, but will probably watch it when my brother (who is a Bond fanatic) gets it on DVD.

 

For me personally there are four main Bond Films:

 

From Russia with Love

Goldfinger

Thunderball

You Only Live Twice

 

"Her Majesty's Secret Service" just never held my interest (and I love Diana Rigg). I do appreciate that they tried to bring the JB character out a bit and keep the series from becoming so predictable, but I never felt GL was the right actor for those films.

 

Timothy Dalton is a wonderful actor and I personally think his depiction of Bond is the best one, but by that time they were just recycling material and he never had anything original or good to work with.

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I can distinctly remember my dad taking my brother and I to see Thunderball. It was the first Bond movie I saw and I loved it at the time. The scene with the sharks in the pool is great. For me, though, it doesn't hold up as well over time. It's still good, but I wouldn't list it in my favorites anymore. Dalton did seem to do a nice job capturing the essence of the character, but the material just wasn't there to take advantage of him..

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"Becoming Bond" documentary; "James Bond: For Real" Documentary; Chris Cornell Music Video; "Bond Girls Are Forever" (2006), Featurette, Music Videos.

These are the extras listed on web-sites right now. Kind of sparse for a Bond film. They must be holding back for a Deluxe edition in the near future.

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I hate it when they double-dip like that.

 

It looks like it might be a rental right now, maybe more if they do something better with it in the future. :(

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