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The Enemy of My Enemy Is My…?

 

The Saudi-American-Iranian-Russian-Qatari-Syrian conundrum.

 

"Trump come to view a region he clearly knows little about through the Saudi royal family’s paranoid eyes, believing staunchly that Shia Iran is hell-bent on controlling an Islamic world that is 85 percent Sunni...

 

 

"(Trump) has no problem contradicting himself or undermining aides working to find a more rational basis for his ever changing stances and desires on matters of import. These problems are compounded by his inability to connect the dots in the very complex, volatile Middle East where wars are raging in Syria, Yemen and Iraq, or to assess how a move on one diplomatic or military front will impact a host of inter-connected issues........

 

...the impulsive Donald Trump has met his younger counterpart, Prince Muhammad bin Salman (Saudi Arabia Defense Minister and Deputy Crown Prince), equally impulsive and blind to even the medium-term consequences of his aggressive initiatives.

 

....The shared obsession of the prince and the president with Iran, which neither of them is able to comprehend in its complexity, has the potential for creating a true global crisis. If anything, the pressure on Trump in his imagined new world order is only increasing to do the Saudis one better and push a regime-change agenda in a big way when it comes to Iran. It’s a formula for disaster on a breathtaking scale."

 

http://billmoyers.com/story/trump-foreign-policy-agenda/

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The Enemy of My Enemy Is My…?

 

The Saudi-American-Iranian-Russian-Qatari-Syrian conundrum.

 

 

Old ancient proverb, The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

 

That is certainly nothing new.  Remember when we armed the Taliban to fight the Russians during the 1980's?

 

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In movies proverb was quoted and implemented by Royce  in "Predators" (2010)

 

 

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Trump to French first lady: 'You're in such good shape ... beautiful'-

 

"President Donald Trump was overheard complimenting the French first lady on her physical appearance during a photo opportunity in Paris on Thursday.

 

Video of the encounter was posted to the French government's Facebook page. In the video, Trump turns to President Emmanuel Macron's wife, Brigitte Macron, and says,

"You're in such good shape." Trump then reportedly repeated the comment to Macron before turning back to his wife, adding "beautiful.".......

 

https://www.aol.com/article/news/2017/07/13/trump-to-french-first-lady-youre-in-such-good-shape-beautiful/23028676/

 

-such a ****** PIG!

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Guess Trump was only being nice but I don't think she's hot at all. (Trump better really compliment HIS wife when he gets home.) :blink:

 

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Guess Trump was only being nice but I don't think she's hot at all. (Trump better really compliment HIS wife when he gets home.) 

 

I'm sure she'd be impressed with you, too.

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The Demolition of US Global Power-

 

“Trump’s crudely intimidatory, violent, know-nothing approach to sensitive international issues has encircled the globe from Moscow to the Middle East to Beijing, plunging foes and allies alike into a dark vortex of expanding strategic instability.”

 

For an American president to virtually walk out of his grand inaugural celebrations into such a hailstorm of criticism is beyond extraordinary. Having more or less exhausted their lexicon of condemnatory rhetoric, the usual crew of commentators is now struggling to understand how an American president could be quite so willfully self-destructive........

 

http://billmoyers.com/story/demolition-us-global-power/

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US hits Venezuela president with sanctions-

 

"The move comes after Venezuela held a weekend election that will give Maduro’s ruling party virtually unlimited power in the South American country.

 

The Treasury Department’s Office of Foreign Assets Control announced the sanctions against Maduro in a brief statement on Monday, a day after the Venezuelan vote to elect a constituent assembly that will rewrite the constitution. A longer explanation from the White House was also expected.

The administration imposed sanctions on more than a dozen senior current and former Venezuelan officials last week, warning the socialist government that new penalties would come if Maduro went ahead with Sunday’s election for the assembly.........

 

https://apnews.com/025f881bac604b2dbb8f6058070e6663/The-Latest:-US-hits-Venezuela-president-with-sancti

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This is from Pew Research in July.  I find it hard to believe that Trump managed to get a 5% approval rating.

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FT_17.07.17_TrumpInMexico.pngTrump gets his lowest ratings in Mexico. Over the past decade, U.S. presidents have gotten mixed or negative reviews in Mexico, but at 5%, Trump registers the lowest confidence rating of any U.S. leader in Mexico since Pew Research Center began surveying there. His rating in Mexico is also the lowest among the 37 nations polled in 2017. The proposed border wall between the U.S. and Mexico has been a high-profile position for Trump since he declared his candidacy for president, and more than nine-in-ten Mexicans oppose it. U.S. favorability has typically been higher than confidence in the American president in Mexico, and that remains the case this year – though the share of the public with a positive view of the U.S. has dropped steeply since 2015.

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This is from Pew Research in July.  I find it hard to believe that Trump managed to get a 5% approval rating.

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FT_17.07.17_TrumpInMexico.pngTrump gets his lowest ratings in Mexico. Over the past decade, U.S. presidents have gotten mixed or negative reviews in Mexico, but at 5%, Trump registers the lowest confidence rating of any U.S. leader in Mexico since Pew Research Center began surveying there. His rating in Mexico is also the lowest among the 37 nations polled in 2017. The proposed border wall between the U.S. and Mexico has been a high-profile position for Trump since he declared his candidacy for president, and more than nine-in-ten Mexicans oppose it. U.S. favorability has typically been higher than confidence in the American president in Mexico, and that remains the case this year – though the share of the public with a positive view of the U.S. has dropped steeply since 2015.

 

Who gives a ****

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This is from Pew Research in July.  I find it hard to believe that Trump managed to get a 5% approval rating.

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FT_17.07.17_TrumpInMexico.pngTrump gets his lowest ratings in Mexico. Over the past decade, U.S. presidents have gotten mixed or negative reviews in Mexico, but at 5%, Trump registers the lowest confidence rating of any U.S. leader in Mexico since Pew Research Center began surveying there. His rating in Mexico is also the lowest among the 37 nations polled in 2017. The proposed border wall between the U.S. and Mexico has been a high-profile position for Trump since he declared his candidacy for president, and more than nine-in-ten Mexicans oppose it. U.S. favorability has typically been higher than confidence in the American president in Mexico, and that remains the case this year – though the share of the public with a positive view of the U.S. has dropped steeply since 2015.

 

Why would Mexicans oppose a border wall?      The obvious reason would be because they feel it is their right to illegal enter another country and a wall would make illegal entry more difficult.

 

Mexicans clearly has little to no respect for the sovereignty of the USA.

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This is from Pew Research in July. I find it hard to believe that Trump managed to get a 5% approval rating.

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FT_17.07.17_TrumpInMexico.pngTrump gets his lowest ratings in Mexico. Over the past decade, U.S. presidents have gotten mixed or negative reviews in Mexico, but at 5%, Trump registers the lowest confidence rating of any U.S. leader in Mexico since Pew Research Center began surveying there. His rating in Mexico is also the lowest among the 37 nations polled in 2017. The proposed border wall between the U.S. and Mexico has been a high-profile position for Trump since he declared his candidacy for president, and more than nine-in-ten Mexicans oppose it. U.S. favorability has typically been higher than confidence in the American president in Mexico, and that remains the case this year – though the share of the public with a positive view of the U.S. has dropped steeply since 2015.

Trump's characterization of Mexican people as murderers and rapists certainly is a good reason for them not to like him.

 

If that wasn't bad enough, Trump attacked a Mexican -American federal judge as being unfit for office because of his ethnicity.

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Trump's characterization of Mexican people as murderers and rapists certainly is a good reason for them not to like him.

 

If that wasn't bad enough, Trump attacked a Mexican -American federal judge as being unfit for office because of his ethnicity.

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Come on,  he also said 'but some,  I assume, are good people'.   :blink:

He also said this.

"I like Mexico," Trump told CNN's Jake Tapper. "I love the Mexican people. I do business with the Mexican people, but you have people coming through the border that are from all over. And they're bad. They're really bad."

"You have people coming in, and I'm not just saying Mexicans — I'm talking about people that are from all over that are killers and rapists, and they're coming into this country" 

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He also said this.

"I like Mexico," Trump told CNN's Jake Tapper. "I love the Mexican people. I do business with the Mexican people, but you have people coming through the border that are from all over. And they're bad. They're really bad."

"You have people coming in, and I'm not just saying Mexicans — I'm talking about people that are from all over that are killers and rapists, and they're coming into this country" 

 

When did he say that, during the initial press conference when he said "some of them, I assume, are good people.", or did he say that in a later interview?

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When did he say that, during the initial press conference when he said "some of them, I assume, are good people.", or did he say that in a later interview?

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He also said this.

"I like Mexico," Trump told CNN's Jake Tapper. "I love the Mexican people. I do business with the Mexican people, but you have people coming through the border that are from all over. And they're bad. They're really bad."

"You have people coming in, and I'm not just saying Mexicans — I'm talking about people that are from all over that are killers and rapists, and they're coming into this country" 

 

Yea, I know that but that doesn't change what he had already said.  

 

I'm against illegal immigration and this was an area were I sided with the GOP's policy stance a lot more than the Dems,  but ignorant, over-the-top statements by Trump were NOT helpful in getting independents,  as well as moderate Dems, to support the GOP's view on illegal immigration.

 

The Dems have been successful in getting the Media to frame anyone that is against illegal immigration as a racist.  Well Trump's immature and ignorant comments played right into how the Dems wish to frame the issue.    Just another example of where Trump just doesn't have solid skills when it comes to communicating to the public.    I.e. he just has to go off the rails because he can't stand not being the center of attention. 

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Yea, I know that but that doesn't change what he had already said.  

 

I'm against illegal immigration and this was an area were I sided with the GOP's policy stance a lot more than the Dems,  but ignorant, over-the-top statements by Trump were NOT helpful in getting independents,  as well as moderate Dems, to support the GOP's view on illegal immigration.

 

The Dems have been successful in getting the Media to frame anyone that is against illegal immigration as a racist.  Well Trump's immature and ignorant comments played right into how the Dems wish to frame the issue.    Just another example of where Trump just doesn't have solid skills when it comes to communicating to the public.    I.e. he just has to go off the rails because he can't stand not being the center of attention. 

Yes your right. When MSNBC and  CNN first reported on Trumps Mexican statement they would include, "some of them, I assume, are good people". After that the news became more and more just "Trump see's Mexican people as murderers and rapists.
It's like the analogy on the Russian hacking (and yes I know the opinions on the hacking are divided) But the "Analogy" to me is similar : 
All this was set in motion when the DNC’s mail server was first violated in the spring of 2016 and by subsequent assertions that Russians were behind that “hack” and another such operation, also described as a Russian hack, on July 5. These are the foundation stones of the edifice just outlined. The evolution of public discourse in the year since is worthy of scholarly study: Possibilities became allegations, and these became probabilities. Then the probabilities turned into certainties, and these evolved into what are now taken to be established truths. By my reckoning, it required a few days to a few weeks to advance from each of these stages to the next. This was accomplished via the indefensibly corrupt manipulations of language repeated incessantly in our leading media.

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Yes your right. When MSNBC and  CNN first reported on Trumps Mexican statement they would include, "some of them, I assume, are good people". After that the news became more and more just "Trump see's Mexican people as murderers and rapists.
It's like the analogy on the Russian hacking (and yes I know the opinions on the hacking are divided) But the "Analogy" to me is similar : 
All this was set in motion when the DNC’s mail server was first violated in the spring of 2016 and by subsequent assertions that Russians were behind that “hack” and another such operation, also described as a Russian hack, on July 5. These are the foundation stones of the edifice just outlined. The evolution of public discourse in the year since is worthy of scholarly study: Possibilities became allegations, and these became probabilities. Then the probabilities turned into certainties, and these evolved into what are now taken to be established truths. By my reckoning, it required a few days to a few weeks to advance from each of these stages to the next. This was accomplished via the indefensibly corrupt manipulations of language repeated incessantly in our leading media.

 

 

Yes,  media outlets will focus on a portion of the text to push their own agenda,  but a competent person understands this and choses their words wisely.    Note that even the 'some of them,  I ASSUME, are good people' was an asinine way to phase this. 

 

All Trump had to do was to say something like;  I understand that most Mexicans that come to the USA illegally are just coming for jobs and they are good family people,  BUT,  that doesn't make it right for them to come here illegally.   In addition some are bad people,  that have committed rapes or murders and belong to street gangs that smuggle drugs.   

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BBC News on Trump's UN speech...

Swedish Foreign Minister Margot Wallstrom, who was observed crossing her arms, told the BBC: "It was the wrong speech, at the wrong time, to the wrong audience."

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BBC News on Trump's UN speech...

Swedish Foreign Minister Margot Wallstrom, who was observed crossing her arms, told the BBC: "It was the wrong speech, at the wrong time, to the wrong audience."

 

But of course Trump wasn't really speaking to them. He was speaking to his base. And they ate it up.

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Jake Tapper just interviewed Michael Bloomberg on the subject of Trump.  Bloomberg was quite diplomatic and the worst thing he said about Trump was that he wasn't getting good advice.

On the Iranian deal, refreshingly Bloomberg came right out and said that he was no expert but if they (Trump) had a problem with it the thing to do was to sit down with them behind closed doors and express what you wanted.  Not to stand in front of the WORLD and be a blow hard and to drive a stake between the two countries.  This is not reality tv, Donald!

He's still campaigning and still trying to score points with the braindead.

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Only two countries think Trump is doing a better job than Obama did-  

 

"A globally reviled leader makes his UN debut and lectures about mismanagement

 

 

Only two countries had improved views of President Trump compared to his predecessor: Russia and Israel....

 

http://www.salon.com/2017/09/20/only-two-countries-think-trump-is-doing-a-better-job-than-obama-did_partner/

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