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The Press Has Adopted Trump’s Reality-Show Standards

The reaction to the special counsel’s testimony shows how deeply the president has conditioned the media to treat political events like reality television.

 

"...... in any other time, a special prosecutor, former FBI director, and decorated Marine testifying that the president of the United States was an unprosecuted felon

who encouraged and then benefited from an attack on American democracy in pursuit of personal and political gain would bring the country to a grinding halt.

But the American political press found Mueller insufficiently dazzling..........

 

The Democrats’ fear of confrontation, whether through impeachment or aggressive oversight, has communicated to the press that neither the party nor its constituents view any of Trump’s conduct

—his embrace of foreign interference with American elections, his illegal hush-money payments to hide his extramarital affairs, his attempts to corrupt federal law enforcement, the coterie of crooks that surrounds him, the squalid camps at the border, the murderous extremists who act on his rhetoric, his rejection of multiracial democracy—as serious enough for genuine sanction or even committed opposition.

Whether Democrats realize it or not, that public-facing weakness also affects how the press covers Trump,

a feedback loop that makes it harder for them to act. ........

 

Having concluded that most Trump voters would not be bothered by Trump’s (racist) remarks, reporters could not bring themselves to condemn them, fearing allegations of bias.

Having similarly concluded that Mueller’s testimony would not alter public opinion on Trump, and that the Democrats feared meaningful confrontation, they were comfortable panning his performance.

But in each case, their characterization of events didn’t simply reflect public opinion—it actively shaped it.

Trump knows this, which is why he is constantly working to undermine public trust in mainstream news outlets. But he needn’t worry too much.

If nothing else, the coverage of the Mueller hearing illustrates the extent to which much of the mainstream press has internalized Trump’s own reality-show standards for what counts as a significant political development. All the world is trashy television, and the president and his opposition are merely producers.

After three seasons, Russiagate just got old, and the critics got bored with it.......

 

The Senate Intelligence Committee released a report Thursday showing that Russia targeted election systems all over the country.

That news came a few hours after Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, who in 2016 had prevented a bipartisan united front against Russian interference intended to aid Trump, blocked several bills aimed at protecting the nation’s election infrastructure from foreign interference.

 

Whatever comes next, unlike Mueller’s testimony that the president is a crook, at least it won’t be boring..."

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/07/press-tires-russiagate/594874/?utm_medium=social&utm_term=2019-07-26T14%3A34%3A05&utm_content=edit-promo&utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=the-atlantic

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15 hours ago, mr6666 said:

Having concluded that most Trump voters would not be bothered by Trump’s (racist) remarks, reporters could not bring themselves to condemn them, fearing allegations of bias.

Is there any data to support this point?     Based on reporting from Fox,  CNN 'reporters' (talking-heads like Anderson, Lemon and Burnett etc...),   said either the comments were racist or that Trump was for making them,  over 2,000 times in 3 days.

Of course maybe it comes down to how one defines a 'reporter';   A reporter shouldn't add their own commentary.   E.g. the L.A. Times news stories mentioned that people were saying the comments were racist and \ or that Trump was quoting Dem politicians and random citizens,  but of course the reporter didn't provide their POV.    The times lead editorial call out Trump and two of the Times columnist call out Trump but these were in the editorial section.  While these columnist are 'reporters' they are not acting as such when they are columnist in the editorial section. 

 

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Right-Wing Foundation Money Fuels Trump’s Racist Echo Chamber

"Many of the same social media influencers who attended Trump’s “Social Media Summit” on July 11 have rallied to defend his racist attacks against U.S. Representatives Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (NY-D), Rashida Tlaib (MI-D), Ayanna Pressley (MA-D), and Ilhan Omar (MN-D). And a number of them are bankrolled by the Kochs, the Bradley Foundation, and other large right-wing foundations. ....

In the face of widespread outrage, Trump’s friends from the Summit have gone out of their way to justify his actions.

The Heritage Foundation condemned Trump’s comments, but also suggested that he made them out of love for the country and that the “destructive and divisive nature of the rhetoric of the members of Congress in question” was to blame.........

Although the mainstream media has done a good job of covering Trump’s inaugural Social Media Summit and his racist attacks, there has been very little reporting on

who bankrolls this online echo chamber of right-wing, anti-immigration, and white nationalist pundits. ......

https://truthout.org/articles/right-wing-foundation-money-fuels-trumps-racist-echo-chamber/

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7 minutes ago, mr6666 said:

Right-Wing Foundation Money Fuels Trump’s Racist Echo Chamber

"Many of the same social media influencers who attended Trump’s “Social Media Summit” on July 11 have rallied to defend his racist attacks against U.S. Representatives Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (NY-D), Rashida Tlaib (MI-D), Ayanna Pressley (MA-D), and Ilhan Omar (MN-D). And a number of them are bankrolled by the Kochs, the Bradley Foundation, and other large right-wing foundations. ....

In the face of widespread outrage, Trump’s friends from the Summit have gone out of their way to justify his actions.

The Heritage Foundation condemned Trump’s comments, but also suggested that he made them out of love for the country and that the “destructive and divisive nature of the rhetoric of the members of Congress in question” was to blame.........

Although the mainstream media has done a good job of covering Trump’s inaugural Social Media Summit and his racist attacks, there has been very little reporting on

who bankrolls this online echo chamber of right-wing, anti-immigration, and white nationalist pundits. ......

https://truthout.org/articles/right-wing-foundation-money-fuels-trumps-racist-echo-chamber/

:huh:

 

The Heritage Foundation.....

It's time to round up The Usual Suspects:

Betsy DeVos' family and the Breitbart Mercer family.

The Koch brothers already have their own Americans for Prosperity... more like Americans for the 1%.

 

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Here’s this week’s edition of our newsletter, this one on demagogues and journalists, and with a timely guest appearance from Edward R. Murrow
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" Demagogues are challenging for journalists.

Sen. Joseph McCarthy taught the press this lesson in the 1950s. But if you were working then as a journalist, you would be at least 85 years old today, so not many remember the lesson firsthand. And the lesson of the last four years is that far too few people seem to have learned the lesson from history.

The lesson, which I admit being a little bit obsessed with, is that we play the demagogue’s game when we repeat their false charges, when we recirculate their contention that falsehoods are facts, when we fail to accurately characterize their behavior.

We have the luxury at ProPublica of not having to cover the news of each day; we can ignore tweets even when they are trending. We focus on marshaling facts, often lots of them. But many others in journalism can’t do that, or can’t do it regularly, and that forces them to sift through a welter of opinions and make hard choices on the fly.

 

... what does this mean we, as journalists, should do? A number of things.

  • First, we should not repeat assertions of falsehoods. If someone keeps saying the earth is flat, the first time it is news (along with a reminder that they’re wrong), the second and subsequent times are just silliness, and not newsworthy at all. 
  • Next, we should not amplify false accusations. An assertion that a law-abiding public official is actually a traitor along with their denial of treason does not add up to either fairness or balance. False accusations should simply fall into the void where most things a few people want publicized end up. That is, they belong in the same category as uninteresting press releases for meaningless events. News organizations get those all the time and move them quickly to the physical or virtual trash bin.
  • Finally, when ugliness rears its head, we need to call it by its name. Appeals to racial or ethnic or religious prejudice have names — names like racism, bigotry, anti-Semitism.  These are each, to be sure, often empty words of insult. But they can also be powerful descriptors when they are compelled by the facts....

.......... That is to say, these things pass. But they pass, as Murrow so eloquently reminded us, when we see that we — each and all of us — are responsible for what becomes of our cherished country.

This, it seems increasingly clear, is one of those times in which the American people need to rise up in what Franklin Roosevelt, in another very dark hour, called their “righteous might.” When they do, if they do, the essential goodness of this country, which Abraham Lincoln rightly called the “last best hope of earth,” will be restored. ...."

 

https://go.propublica.org/nsu

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So let’s deconstruct Chuck Todd’s intv, with

, shall we? First, he starts with a yes/no question. Never good. Then he allows Sen Scott to avoid answering—in fact the Senator frame his own question:

[let’s look at what he says]

CHUCK TODD: Senator, do you think Trump's racial tweets are good politics?
 
@SenRickScott: Well, Rep Cummings attacked our border agents
 
T: So that justifies a racial resentment tweet?
 
SCOTT: Look, I didn't do the tweets. I'm disappointed in Rep Cummings
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Senator Scott was not challenged in any way.

No facts held him accountable. In fact, Scott direcred this interview.

Well done, Senator!

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Soledad O’Brien nails this but doesn’t give the root cause of Todd’s failure.
 
He has surfed the wave of punditry to his current position.
 
He’s never been a real journalist and therefore
 
never learned the art of interviewing — the stock in trade of real reporters.
 
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Pres Trump tells reporters now, he counts on the press to vet his nominees for top government jobs and "a lot of times you do a very good job."
 
But two hours ago he tweeted that John Ratcliffe was "being treated very unfairly by "lamestream media"..with slander and libel"
 
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3 minutes ago, mr6666 said:
 

"The Fox spokesperson said the vacation had been in the works before Carlson had made his controversial remarks."

So weird how #FireTuckerCarlson trends

& Tucker Carlson has a fishing trip "in the works". #TuckerIsGoingFishingForNewAdvertisers

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Tucker Carlson goes on vacation as criticism mounts over false claim about white supremacy 'hoax'

https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/08/media/tucker-carlson-vacation-reliable-sources/index.html

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3 minutes ago, mr6666 said:

Tucker Carlson goes on vacation as criticism mounts over false claim about white supremacy 'hoax'

https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/08/media/tucker-carlson-vacation-reliable-sources/index.html

 

The truth went away and you hung around

And bothered me every night

 And when I wouldn't watch you

You said things that weren't very nice.....

 

You've been spreading lies that were untrue

So look out now cuz it's coming after you

 

Cuz nothing now can save your reputation

If I were you I'd take a permanent vacation......

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Tucker Carlson spreading White Supremacy

Hates non-white Americans, other nationalities.

Now he’s saying it’s a hoax 

Shep Smith calls him out as a dope

Like Donald Trump, the hatred he sowed is the hatred he reaps.

 

Carlson bow-tied, looking angry or just vexed

White Nationalists use his show to spew hate that haters injest

With the world up in arms 

Tucker now trying to disarm

Denying what he promoted leaving us all quite perplexed.

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White House Press Secretary On Press Briefing Hiatus: Trump Gaggles ‘Good Enough’

“He is the most accessible president in modern history,” Stephanie Grisham said during her first TV interview since moving to the West Wing.

 

........she said, claiming that the press was “really happy” with two recent press briefings from Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin and acting head of U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services Ken Cuccinelli.

“But we want to hear from you,” Bolling interrupted.

“You’re hearing from me right now,” Grisham fired back. “But the president also ― he’s so accessible. Right now, I think that that’s good enough.”

She falsely stated that “no question goes unanswered” when Trump addresses a White House press gaggle....

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/stephanie-grisham-press-briefings_n_5d556487e4b0eb875f202140?ncid=tweetlnkushpmg00000067

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Just now, mr6666 said:

White House Press Secretary On Press Briefing Hiatus: Trump Gaggles ‘Good Enough’

“He is the most accessible president in modern history,” Stephanie Grisham said during her first TV interview since moving to the West Wing.

 

Why isn't anyone shouting out the question to POTUS, "Did Stormy Daniels sit on your face."

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3 hours ago, Bogie56 said:

Why isn't anyone shouting out the question to POTUS, "Did Stormy Daniels sit on your face."

For the money he paid her,  I hope so!

 

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15 hours ago, Bogie56 said:

Why isn't anyone shouting out the question to POTUS, "Did Stormy Daniels sit on your face."

Or” Did Stormy Daniel pee on you?’

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2 hours ago, Arturo said:

Or” Did Stormy Daniel pee on you?’

Yes, anything like that that removes the facade of respect.

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30 minutes ago, Bogie56 said:

Yes, anything like that that removes the facade of respect.

Maybe a combination of the two...”Did she do that while sitting on your face?”

Donald Trump long ago shattered the facade of respect.  Now he has done that to the presidency as well.

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1 hour ago, mr6666 said:
 
....I don’t want to Win for myself, I only want to Win for the people. The New

is letting millions of GREAT people down! We have to start looking for a new News Outlet. Fox isn’t working for us anymore!

:o  :lol:

Fox News Stars Push Back as Trump Demands Loyalty: We Don’t ‘Work for You’

The president on Wednesday morning had a tantrum about the network giving coverage to Democrats. Fox News, he said, “isn’t working for us anymore!”

..... Benson also said that Trump was “working the refs,” agreeing with Axios’ Sara Fischer that Trump was playing to a “fringe culture” of rabid supporters whom the president hopes would help push Fox News to intensify its already largely pro-Trump coverage. .........

https://www.thedailybeast.com/fox-news-stars-push-back-as-trump-demands-loyalty-we-dont-work-for-you/?via=twitter_page

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BREAKING NEWS: Hours Before First Book on Trump Counterintelligence Evidence ("Proof of Conspiracy") Set to Drop,
Top Intelligence Adviser for Trump 2020 Presidential Campaign Compares Its Jewish Author to a Nazi
 
SOURCE2/ I've no doubt Trump's intelligence advisers would like to
—acting as proxies for the president—compare me to a Nazi propagandist
to pretend the counterintelligence evidence in Proof of Conspiracy isn't true,
 
but all of it is sourced and documented:
 
 
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On 7/26/2019 at 9:34 PM, mr6666 said:

The Press Has Adopted Trump’s Reality-Show Standards

The reaction to the special counsel’s testimony shows how deeply the president has conditioned the media to treat political events like reality television.

 

"...... in any other time, a special prosecutor, former FBI director, and decorated Marine testifying that the president of the United States was an unprosecuted felon

who encouraged and then benefited from an attack on American democracy in pursuit of personal and political gain would bring the country to a grinding halt.

But the American political press found Mueller insufficiently dazzling..........

 

The Democrats’ fear of confrontation, whether through impeachment or aggressive oversight, has communicated to the press that neither the party nor its constituents view any of Trump’s conduct

—his embrace of foreign interference with American elections, his illegal hush-money payments to hide his extramarital affairs, his attempts to corrupt federal law enforcement, the coterie of crooks that surrounds him, the squalid camps at the border, the murderous extremists who act on his rhetoric, his rejection of multiracial democracy—as serious enough for genuine sanction or even committed opposition.

Whether Democrats realize it or not, that public-facing weakness also affects how the press covers Trump,

a feedback loop that makes it harder for them to act. ........

 

Having concluded that most Trump voters would not be bothered by Trump’s (racist) remarks, reporters could not bring themselves to condemn them, fearing allegations of bias.

Having similarly concluded that Mueller’s testimony would not alter public opinion on Trump, and that the Democrats feared meaningful confrontation, they were comfortable panning his performance.

But in each case, their characterization of events didn’t simply reflect public opinion—it actively shaped it.

Trump knows this, which is why he is constantly working to undermine public trust in mainstream news outlets. But he needn’t worry too much.

If nothing else, the coverage of the Mueller hearing illustrates the extent to which much of the mainstream press has internalized Trump’s own reality-show standards for what counts as a significant political development. All the world is trashy television, and the president and his opposition are merely producers.

After three seasons, Russiagate just got old, and the critics got bored with it.......

 

The Senate Intelligence Committee released a report Thursday showing that Russia targeted election systems all over the country.

That news came a few hours after Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, who in 2016 had prevented a bipartisan united front against Russian interference intended to aid Trump, blocked several bills aimed at protecting the nation’s election infrastructure from foreign interference.

 

Whatever comes next, unlike Mueller’s testimony that the president is a crook, at least it won’t be boring..."

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/07/press-tires-russiagate/594874/?utm_medium=social&amp;utm_term=2019-07-26T14%3A34%3A05&amp;utm_content=edit-promo&amp;utm_source=twitter&amp;utm_campaign=the-atlantic

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the msm was adopting a supermarket tabloid mentality long before trump announced his run.

 

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Trump allies raise money to target reporters

President Trump's political allies are trying to raise at least $2 million to investigate reporters and editors of the New York Times, Washington Post and other outlets, according to a 3-page fundraising pitch reviewed by Axios. 

 

Why it matters: Trump’s war on the media is expanding. This group will target reporters and editors, while other GOP 2020 entities go after the social media platforms, alleging bias, officials tell us.

  • The group claims it will slip damaging information about reporters and editors to "friendly media outlets," such as Breitbart, and traditional media, if possible.
  • People involved in raising the funds include GOP consultant Arthur Schwartz and the "loose network" that the NY Times reported last week is targeting journalists. The operations are to be run by undisclosed others.
  • The prospectus for the new project says it's "targeting the people producing the news.".......
  • Under "Primary Targets," the pitch lists:

  • "CNN, MSNBC, all broadcast networks, NY Times, Washington Post, BuzzFeed, Huffington Post, and all others that routinely incorporate bias and misinformation in to their coverage. We will also track the reporters and editors of these organizations."
  • This isn't an entirely new concept. The liberal group Media Matters monitors journalists and publications and goes public with complaints of bias.

  • But being this blatant and specific about trying to discredit individual reporters is new. 

    Go deeper: Trump allies plot new war on social media

https://www.axios.com/2020-presidential-campaign-trump-allies-journalists-6733432f-b008-45d3-99c2-9dca7931faff.html

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2 hours ago, mr6666 said:

Trump allies raise money to target reporters

President Trump's political allies are trying to raise at least $2 million to investigate reporters and editors of the New York Times, Washington Post and other outlets, according to a 3-page fundraising pitch reviewed by Axios. 

 

Why it matters: Trump’s war on the media is expanding. This group will target reporters and editors, while other GOP 2020 entities go after the social media platforms, alleging bias, officials tell us.

  • The group claims it will slip damaging information about reporters and editors to "friendly media outlets," such as Breitbart, and traditional media, if possible.
  • People involved in raising the funds include GOP consultant Arthur Schwartz and the "loose network" that the NY Times reported last week is targeting journalists. The operations are to be run by undisclosed others.
  • The prospectus for the new project says it's "targeting the people producing the news.".......
  • Under "Primary Targets," the pitch lists:

  • "CNN, MSNBC, all broadcast networks, NY Times, Washington Post, BuzzFeed, Huffington Post, and all others that routinely incorporate bias and misinformation in to their coverage. We will also track the reporters and editors of these organizations."
  • This isn't an entirely new concept. The liberal group Media Matters monitors journalists and publications and goes public with complaints of bias.

  • But being this blatant and specific about trying to discredit individual reporters is new. 

    Go deeper: Trump allies plot new war on social media

https://www.axios.com/2020-presidential-campaign-trump-allies-journalists-6733432f-b008-45d3-99c2-9dca7931faff.html

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trump's war against the Press is simply a war against the truth.

And you'd expect nothing less from a habitual liar.

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