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Some may think this is silly, but the incredible work & it's still "acting" of ANDY SERKIS i.e. "Planet of the Apes-movies" "King Kong" (2005), "LOR" (2001-03) & more, plus the upcoming "Kong: Skull Island" merits somekind of special honorary *Oscar statue!

 

I've seen fotage of him working & it's amazing how they & he achieve it all

 

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Usually, "honorary" Oscars are awarded to actors, actresses and directors with MORE than 20 years of noted work under their belts.  AND are generally known as "household" names.

 

Maybe if and when Serkis reaches the ripe old age of 80 or so he'll get his due.

 

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There was a big push to try and get "Dawn of the Apes" legitimized with wondering whether Serkis could qualify, but the Academy just put it down to "Visual Effects".

 

Oh well, there's always "War For the Apes" and Marvel's Black Panther movie...

 

(And apparently, the accepted acronym is not accepted on the forum.)

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There was a big push to try and get "Dawn of the Apes" legitimized with wondering whether Serkis could qualify, but the Academy just put it down to "Visual Effects".

 

Oh well, there's always "War For the Apes" and Marvel's Black Panther movie...

 

(And apparently, the accepted acronym is not accepted on the forum.)

 

They're making a "Black Panther" movie?

 

Who's gonna play HUEY NEWTON?  ;)

 

 

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They're making a "Black Panther" movie?

 

Who's gonna play HUEY NEWTON?  ;)

 

 

Sepiatone

 

Not surprised there will be a "B. Panther " movie. See, now that the well-made 2015 "Straight 0utta' Compton" ($approx. $160 million!) (***) did that greatly, typically of Hollywood in our era, it has to "cookie cut" others somewhat in the same fashion.

 

My favorite example of all & the '80's had great cinema!

 

After *"Platoon" (l986) ($138m.0 swept those 4 *Oscars, there were Vietnam flix everywhere!

 

But, we can't include *Kubrick's masterpiece "Full Metal Jacket" (l987) ($46m.) (4 stars!)-(only nom was for script?)

Because he was working on that epic before I think *"Platoon" even started?

 

& I feel justified since I was a wee-lad of only age 15-16, when I got to go see "Apocalypse..." (l979) about 3 times too & found it utterly astonishing moviemaking-(if not accurate)

Now, virtually all critics,etc vote it the #1 greatest overall war-film.

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There was a big push to try and get "Dawn of the Apes" legitimized with wondering whether Serkis could qualify, but the Academy just put it down to "Visual Effects".

 

Oh well, there's always "War For the Apes" and Marvel's Black Panther movie...

 

(And apparently, the accepted acronym is not accepted on the forum.)

 

To ericJ rarely so far heard of "War of the Apes" are you certain? Again, I won't be surprised

 

In defense of the 2 w/Serkis though I thought both were fine flix (***) 1st one hit $176m.) & the other $208m.

 

So, "Black Panther" will be Marvel. I'm personally so fed-up & tired of sequels, comics adaoted, remakes-(& all hit the $deck$ Surprised we don't have a rehash of the likes of "City lights" "Kane" *"Casablanca"-(was turned into a 1980's tv show w/David Soul)& they did redo "Captains Courageous" twice, but for television 1977 & 1991 & they were ok though. & even if I don't go to thesre type pof current era flix (i.e. "Batman vs. Superman" (**-at best) is thee prime example to point to as to just how asinine these things have gotten & of course they have a sequel to it???

 

Don't know what anyone thinks of TV's Bill Maher or not-9ultra liberal & I think it's spomewhat for effect)

 

Anyway, once in awhile he rants about same thing & has a list of the top 10 highest grossers td & just how many are cartoon types vs. real people i.e. *"GWTW"

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Those last two paragraphs in that last post indicates to ME Spence, a need for you to consider DECAF.

 

But also considering  content in the last TWO posts.....

 

I agree with the being tired of movies from comic books (and the pretention of calling them "graphic novels")  and the plethora of animated flicks for the last decade or so.

 

Sequels?  Well, I don't mind THEM too much.  But the cleverest of ALL of 'em was THE GODFATHER II, which was "sequel" AND "prequel" rolled into one.  IMHO.

 

As for remakes.....

 

If they're mostly  "modern day" recastings and/or "corrections" of some plot holes found in the original, then they're OK by me.  But when plot, dialog and SETTING are needlessly "updated" is when I feel many cross the line.  Depending on which fillm is being remade.

 

What I remember most about PLATOON is being put to sleep both by an orchestra sawing away laborously on Samuel Barber's "Addagio For Strings" in the background, and most of the movie itself.

 

IMO APOCALYPSE NOW  was  astonishing, althugh not sure how "accurate", since I wasn't there(Viet Nam) to begin with.  But I'm also not sure which grabbed me more....

 

How the VIET NAM conflict was presented, or the way Capt. Willard's INNER conflict was played out.

 

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Those last two paragraphs in that last post indicates to ME Spence, a need for you to consider DECAF.

 

But also considering  content in the last TWO posts.....

 

I agree with the being tired of movies from comic books (and the pretention of calling them "graphic novels")  and the plethora of animated flicks for the last decade or so.

 

Sequels?  Well, I don't mind THEM too much.  But the cleverest of ALL of 'em was THE GODFATHER II, which was "sequel" AND "prequel" rolled into one.  IMHO.

 

As for remakes.....

 

If they're mostly  "modern day" recastings and/or "corrections" of some plot holes found in the original, then they're OK by me.  But when plot, dialog and SETTING are needlessly "updated" is when I feel many cross the line.  Depending on which fillm is being remade.

 

What I remember most about PLATOON is being put to sleep both by an orchestra sawing away laborously on Samuel Barber's "Addagio For Strings" in the background, and most of the movie itself.

 

IMO APOCALYPSE NOW  was  astonishing, althugh not sure how "accurate", since I wasn't there(Viet Nam) to begin with.  But I'm also not sure which grabbed me more....

 

How the VIET NAM conflict was presented, or the way Capt. Willard's INNER conflict was played out.

 

Sepiatone

"Apocalypse" is an extraordinary moviegoing experience on every level!  I first went to in up in NJ when it opened around January 1980 & it really put the cinematic hook in me. Ridiculously though predictabally the exceptional but tv like *"Kramer vs. Kramer" defeated it at *Oscar time?

 

I don't know how accurate it is on the real Vitetnam. Most said *"Platoon" (l986) was thee first to really hit home. After it concluded, people-(packed too) were completely silent, even going to their cars.  "Addagio for Strings" is mainly why I also got the soundtrack.

& the usually boring tom Berenger was like another person as Barnes, a true to life person according to *O. Stone-(he won the Globe, but not the *Oscar for it) He was pitted against Dafoe as "Elias'-(who eventually turned out to be the overall superior actor)

But, the *Oscar went to *Michael Caine in *Woody's superb "Hannah and Her Sisters" that year instead. The 1 that absolutely deserved to "Walk Down-the-Aisle" was Hopper, not for his nommed role in "Hoosiers" but his instant all-time great cinematic villian as Frank Booth in Lynch's "Blue Velvet"-(likely too bizarre for mainstream voters) I'll always recall ET was w/him at his house as the noms were announced & he was surprised too. ("LYNCHIAN'S UNIVERSE & HIS VILLIANS")   By the way he was up for BD for "BV" but that was it.  Surprised to were put to sleep though buddy?   What did you think of *Kubrick's long in the making 1987 "Full Metal Jacket?" ($46 million gross) & it was also likely to strange & only garnered a script nom.?) He filmed it mostly in England, hence seeing the breath of the cast in the 2nd half.

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  I got fed-up with all focusing on *Brando's size, myself. He may have been approx. 230 to 250lbs at the time, nowhere near where he later got though  i.e. "Island of Dr. Moreau" (l996) & "Free Money" (l998) & personally, I think it added a gravity-(no pun intended) in Kurtz being larger. (TRIVIA: He despised Hopper & all said Dennis smelled sooo-bad.)   Did you know James Caan was always intended to portray Willard-(Sheen's pt?)  & as for *Duvall, he was just amazing BIG-TIME! My mom had just got to meet *Robert around 1980 when she was security at "Playboy Casino/Hotel" Her capt called her to a top floor & at the very end of the hall, standing there were both of them, staring at her, she felt anyway, as she had to stride the entire hallway. & this was just after "Apocalypse" & her always watching *":GFI" & *"GFII" actually he was there for a golf contest & the media was covering an upcoming teaming between him & *De Niro in "True Confessions"  She did get his autograph & gave it to me, which I still have with *Ron Howard's & others. His lost that year was sooo stunning to most-(back then we only had mags & papers) & to the already won before *Melvyn Douglas-(l90l-8l) magnificent movie, but not his work so much in it, like "Hud"  Earliest picture I saw that dealt w/Vietnam was *Lancaster's terrific 1978 "Go Tell the Spartans" (***1/2) in 1964. & *Mel did a powerhouse true story 2002 or so "We Were Soldiers" ($80m.) (also 3 & 1/2) it happened in '65, ever see these?   My now deceased father-(car accident) actually volunteered in for the Marine Corps. the same year, before it really got hot-(l967-69) & his entire company was killed, except him & my godfather.

 

Thank you

 

 

Sooo many & prior to the success & awards for *"Platoon"  Most notably 2 from 1978 *:The Deer Hunter" & "Coming Home"

Again back then the closest thing us *Oscar watchers could get to buzz/oddsmaking,etc was the likes of RONA BARRETT-(anyone remember her?) & as I've previously posted for yrs The Globes were the finest barometer to guessing what would eventually sweep *Oscar. & *Beatty was the mnassive favorite for his wonderful 1978 "Heaven Can Wait" not just w/her, but anything else you read or saw. Due to it sweepoing the Globes already. Boy, things sure changed that year w/the *Academy huh. It did take home Best Art-Direction-(due to the concorde & fog) She was saying he'd sweep BP, Actor, S. Actress-(Cannon) Director (both *warren & Buck Henry) & so on. Oh & how could I forget REX REED predicting the same thing!? (P.S. I don't care what most say though, I still prefer his version-(great score to by *D. Grusin) even over the great 1941"Here Comes Mr. Jordan" & I've yet to see 1943's "Heaven Can wait" (Fox) (W/*Ameche)

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To ericJ rarely so far heard of "War of the Apes" are you certain? Again, I won't be surprised

 

In defense of the 2 w/Serkis though I thought both were fine flix (***) 1st one hit $176m.) & the other $208m.

 

So, "Black Panther" will be Marvel. I'm personally so fed-up & tired of sequels, comics adaoted, remakes-(& all hit the $deck$ Surprised we don't have a rehash of the likes of "City lights" "Kane" *"Casablanca"-(was turned into a 1980's tv show w/David Soul)& they did redo "Captains Courageous" twice, but for television 1977 & 1991 & they were ok though. & even if I don't go to thesre type pof current era flix (i.e. "Batman vs. Superman" (**-at best) is thee prime example to point to as to just how asinine these things have gotten & of course they have a sequel to it???

 

Don't know what anyone thinks of TV's Bill Maher or not-(ultra liberal & I think it's somewhat for effect)

 

Anyway, once in awhile he rants about same thing & has a list of the top 10 highest grossers td & just how many are cartoon types vs. real people i.e. *"GWTW"

Do you know when the 3rd version "War of the Apes" is scheduled?

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Do you know when the 3rd version "War of the Apes" is scheduled?

 

No, but hum a few bars and I'll try to fake it, spence.

 

Now, as I recall, it's almost to the same tune as "When the Swallows Come Back to Capistrano", isn't it?!

 

(...sorry...just couldn't resist)  ;)

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