Allhallowsday Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 8 minutes ago, Sepiatone said: I do believe the name was singular(Friend and Lover) And that night, "And their dirty little band" was added to the name. And they were well received by that hardcore hippie crowd too. Sepiatown Of course... typos! I still like that record, though it's dated. Link to post Share on other sites
Sepiatone Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 One of my favorite records, an old 78 by CHICK WEBB and his band, and your still liking "Reach Out Of The Darkness" proves that the word "dated" has no useful place in the parlance of music discussion. Sepiatone 1 Link to post Share on other sites
chaya bat woof woof Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 My parents had an old 78 featuring Walter Huston singing The September Song and Lost in the Stars. Thought he would have looked like Burl Ives and didn't know until years later that he was a great actor. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Allhallowsday Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 3 hours ago, Sepiatone said: One of my favorite records, an old 78 by CHICK WEBB and his band, and your still liking "Reach Out Of The Darkness" proves that the word "dated" has no useful place in the parlance of music discussion. Sepiatone It's completely dated, Babe, it's message and production. I like the oldies, but that doesn't automatically make them timeless. Link to post Share on other sites
Princess of Tap Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 5 hours ago, Sepiatone said: One of my favorite records, an old 78 by CHICK WEBB and his band, and your still liking "Reach Out Of The Darkness" proves that the word "dated" has no useful place in the parlance of music discussion. Sepiatone I have recordings of Fred and Adele Astaire recreating their Broadway shows-- often with the original composer George Gershwin at the piano. These are timeless legendary recordings, Which are an example of 1920s American popular music. I can say they're dated, only in that--that time and place can never be recreated today. That makes them timeless. Fred Astaire used a number of these songs in his technicolor, stereophonic sound movies in the 1950s. Production-wise and musical Arrangement wise, they certainly are on a higher level than those 78 RPM recordings-- But the unique freshness and originality of the original representation of music, depicting an innovative American cultural era, can never be duplicated or replaced. It's exciting! 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Sepiatone Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 21 hours ago, Allhallowsday said: It's completely dated, Babe, it's message and production. I like the oldies, but that doesn't automatically make them timeless. That a very many people still like and listen to them pretty much does, "Babe". And that many other artists are returning to using those same "old time" recording methods proves further that "dated" is too often misused. A MOVIE can be "dated" as nobody(I'm yet aware of) is making movies using the same techniques used in making many of the "classics" we like on TCM. Peter Bogdanovich gave it a couple of tries, and did very well with them. But simply shooting with black and white stock isn't enough. And he was smart enough to know that. Sepiatone Link to post Share on other sites
Princess of Tap Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 4 minutes ago, Sepiatone said: That a very many people still like and listen to them pretty much does, "Babe". And that many other artists are returning to using those same "old time" recording methods proves further that "dated" is too often misused. A MOVIE can be "dated" as nobody(I'm yet aware of) is making movies using the same techniques used in making many of the "classics" we like on TCM. Peter Bogdanovich gave it a couple of tries, and did very well with them. But simply shooting with black and white stock isn't enough. And he was smart enough to know that. Sepiatone And this reminds me of English teachers that I've had or that I know. Every new school year the English teacher is asked to explain to some smart-aleck in the room why they study Shakespeare, why they study Mark Twain's "Huckleberry Finn" and why Lorraine Hansberry's classic play about black people in the Chicago ghetto of the 1950s is still relevant today. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Allhallowsday Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 36 minutes ago, Sepiatone said: That a very many people still like and listen to them pretty much does, "Babe". ... Sepiatone Nope. And "Babe" is a term of affection to me. Link to post Share on other sites
Sepiatone Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 Sepiatone Link to post Share on other sites
jamesjazzguitar Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 38 minutes ago, Allhallowsday said: Nope. And "Babe" is a term of affection to me. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Allhallowsday Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 "I think it's so GROOVY now that people are finally gettin' together...." 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Allhallowsday Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 LOVE Forever Changes Link to post Share on other sites
Sepiatone Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 JAMES overlooked this----- But back to matters.... Sepiatone Link to post Share on other sites
Allhallowsday Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 THE STEREOS "I Really Love You" Link to post Share on other sites
Allhallowsday Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 On 8/15/2020 at 11:13 AM, Sepiatone said: JAMES overlooked this----- ...And you overlooked this : 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Sepiatone Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 TOO_ SHAY! Could be a good thread for a music forum------ "Songs with "babe" in the title" As mentioned somewhere earlier, in one forum we have a thread called "Same name, different song". THAT thread got up to NINE PAGES! Unbelievable how many songs use the same title, but are completely different in style, genre and other content. And BTW----never did like that Styxwagon tune. Sepiatone Link to post Share on other sites
hamradio Posted August 17, 2020 Author Share Posted August 17, 2020 Saw this on TV last night, guess it's best left forgotten. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Allhallowsday Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 1 hour ago, Sepiatone said: And BTW----never did like that Styxwagon tune. Ditto. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Sepiatone Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 For years I referred to both groups(REO Speedwagon and Styx) as REO STYXWAGON because I usually couldn't tell the two apart from each other musically. Appears you might have had a similar problem? Sepiatone Link to post Share on other sites
Allhallowsday Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 26 minutes ago, Sepiatone said: For years I referred to both groups(REO Speedwagon and Styx) as REO STYXWAGON because I usually couldn't tell the two apart from each other musically. Appears you might have had a similar problem? Sepiatone No. I disliked REO SPEEDWAGON much more and could tell them apart from STYX. Link to post Share on other sites
Sepiatone Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 Really? Sepiatone 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Allhallowsday Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 59 minutes ago, Sepiatone said: Really? Really. But I will say you've compelled me to listen to that schmaltz you posted. Ech. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
jamesjazzguitar Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 6 hours ago, Allhallowsday said: No. I disliked REO SPEEDWAGON much more and could tell them apart from STYX. I really hate REO Speedwagon, but because the only time I was arrested was at a concert, when I was 17. They were the opening band and Blue Oyster Cult was the lead band. Well I didn't care to listen to REO so my friend and I went to find a spot to smoke. We run into a bunch of cops and they searched us and found 'stuff'. It was all illegal searches by the cops and I told them so. My step-father was 'cool' so he came and picked us up and no charges were filed (not even a ticket since the searches were unauthorized). The worst part was that the cops wanted to talk while us punks were waiting to be picked up; I told him I had come for Blue Oyster Cult; Well he tell me to sit over next to a vent and I could hear BOC (barely); "See puck, you can near them,,, oh,, the audio isn't very good,,,, that wasn't what you expected,,,," just cruel cops! 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Princess of Tap Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Sepiatone said: Really? Sepiatone I thought both of them were Supertramp. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Vautrin Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 Babe was pure Midwestern puke rock, the kind of tune that makes one want to upchuck before it comes to its thanked for end. But I did buy one Stnkx album, The Grand Illusion. Not bad. It sounded somewhat like a poor man's version of Yes. Never knew much about REO Speedwagon, except for their songs on the radio. Thankfully, punk came along. Link to post Share on other sites
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