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8 hours ago, Davehat said:

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NOIR THURSDAY is back on Movies! over-the-air channel (free with antenna): https://moviestvnetwork.com/

Blonde Ice (1:25 am Pacific) (4:25 am Eastern)

I Died a Thousand Times

Johnny Eager

Red Light

The Fallen Sparrow

The Strange One

Overexposed

Detour

Lady in the Lake

The Brothers Rico

The Dark Past

The Night Holds Terror

Scarlet Street

Yeah, I'll occasionally watch some of those noirs they show on the Movies! channel.

(...gotta say though I have NO idea who in their right mind would ever purchase one of those "2020 Election Chess Sets" they're hawkin' during their commercial breaks???...nope, not EVEN with their little "Certificate of Authenticity" included!!!...nope, and no matter if it ever has a chance in hell to one day become a "cherished family heirloom"!!!)   LOL

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People collect all kinds of things including chess sets.  And stamps (why?).  I once considered a Star Trek chess set but decided that would be $500 wasted.

- And yes TV channels sometimes get yanked.  I lost Decades 😞 BUT Movies! reaches 70% of the country, so it’s worth posting about.

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And like I was sayin' about watchin' movies on the Movies! channel...

(...boy am I ever sorry I mentioned that damn chess set in this thing)

LOL

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Over-Exposed is a 1956 movie with Cleo Moore.  Fairly good one.  She primarily operates as a photographer who creates a successful career.  Not quite the no good person depicted in the poster, but not pure either.

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Just took in BRUTE FORCE. Anyone watch within the last few days on TCM? Most of you probably don't need too, it's so popular. I had seen it before but my memory is so wretched I didn't ever know what was coming next. An absolutely scintillating array of actors in this one. Familiar faces galore. And of course we have Yvonne DeCarlo, Ann Blyth, Ella Raines, and Anita Colby as the Flashback Girls. Yep, what got those guys in there were dames, not money. None of these ladies were developed enough to say much about although that Flossie certainly seemed fatale. The lament was, "I wonder who Flossie's fleecing now.") I kept waiting for someone to yell at Calypso, "Hey, wrap it up with songs all the time, yer drivin' me nuts," but it never came. Pity. I would have got a visceral charge out of that. Muncie (Hume Cronyn) didn't seem so bad to me at first. I must have gotten fooled when he displayed a bit of kindness to Tom Lister (Whit Bissell). But later it is seen that Muncie had chosen Lister for a stoolie, so maybe it was a butter up job. Pretty taut drama over all. I was fairly engrossed. Burt was his usual best as the man front and center. Why did he go on with the break? And why putting the stoolie on front of the escape vehicle which serves only to attract attention? Was the ending a little overwrought? Well, there has the big scene at the end but I was not satisfied with it. The break attempt must fail (under the watchful eye of the Code) and then we MESSAGE  portion of the show, it don't pay to try and escape. I wonder if this movie inside a real prison. I would say not. 

Very uneven remarks here, as so much more can be said.

Comments on Brute Force?

And here is as bit of trivia? When the boys were down there watching a flick, what was being shown? I haven't seen as many movies as most here, but I recognized it immediately? Anyone remember without looking on the net?

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Ah-ha, lafitte!   

Have only seen bits and pieces over the years, as prison movies are not high on my genre list.

I hope it's not Hume Cronyn wearing the undershirt.

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On 8/8/2020 at 10:07 PM, laffite said:

Just took in BRUTE FORCE. Anyone watch within the last few days on TCM? Most of you probably don't need too, it's so popular. I had seen it before but my memory is so wretched I didn't ever know what was coming next. An absolutely scintillating array of actors in this one. Familiar faces galore. And of course we have Yvonne DeCarlo, Ann Blyth, Ella Raines, and Anita Colby as the Flashback Girls. Yep, what got those guys in there were dames, not money. None of these ladies were developed enough to say much about although that Flossie certainly seemed fatale. The lament was, "I wonder who Flossie's fleecing now.") I kept waiting for someone to yell at Calypso, "Hey, wrap it up with songs all the time, yer drivin' me nuts," but it never came. Pity. I would have got a visceral charge out of that. Muncie (Hume Cronyn) didn't seem so bad to me at first. I must have gotten fooled when he displayed a bit of kindness to Tom Lister (Whit Bissell). But later it is seen that Muncie had chosen Lister for a stoolie, so maybe it was a butter up job. Pretty taut drama over all. I was fairly engrossed. Burt was his usual best as the man front and center. Why did he go on with the break? And why putting the stoolie on front of the escape vehicle which serves only to attract attention? Was the ending a little overwrought? Well, there has the big scene at the end but I was not satisfied with it. The break attempt must fail (under the watchful eye of the Code) and then we MESSAGE  portion of the show, it don't pay to try and escape. I wonder if this movie inside a real prison. I would say not. 

Very uneven remarks here, as so much more can be said.

Comments on Brute Force?

And here is as bit of trivia? When the boys were down there watching a flick, what was being shown? I haven't seen as many movies as most here, but I recognized it immediately? Anyone remember without looking on the net?

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Prison pictures are all almost de facto Noirs,  drab cell blocks, bare light-bulbs, barred shadows all over,  alienated and obsessed characters,  seen one you pretty much seen them all 

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3 hours ago, cigarjoe said:

Prison pictures are all almost de facto Noirs,  drab cell blocks, bare light-bulbs, barred shadows all over,  alienated and obsessed characters,  seen one you pretty much seen them all 

Must say I'm surprised by this view of it. I would have thought that one of our foremost Mavens of the genre would discern nuances among the de facto noirs. Different actors, different stories (within limits), and different directors. That might constitute more than mere nuance. But the setting is so claustrophobic. Maybe it stifles the senses.

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7 hours ago, Bronxgirl48 said:

Ah-ha, lafitte!   

Have only seen bits and pieces over the years, as prison movies are not high on my genre list.

I hope it's not Hume Cronyn wearing the undershirt.

I don't think so. But once the cameras move into the cell blocks, there are things more revealing than mere undershirts. How about all those guys showing their hirsute barrelled chests. But as subtext, the answer is no. It's not Brute Force. :)

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I believe Hume wore a wife-beater and also brandished a little riding crop or something along those lines.

Some of his scenes look like outtakes from a underground 1940s s&m porn flick. 

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6 hours ago, laffite said:

Must say I'm surprised by this view of it. I would have thought that one of our foremost Mavens of the genre would discern nuances among the de facto noirs. Different actors, different stories (within limits), and different directors. That might constitute more than mere nuance. But the setting is so claustrophobic. Maybe it stifles the senses.

No, lol, I'm beyond nuances, lol. 

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Hume Cronyn wearing the "wife beater" undershirt and carrying a rubber hose in Brute Force

Maybe you just haven't watched enough of them....

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5 hours ago, cigarjoe said:

No, lol, I'm beyond nuances, lol. 

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Hume Cronyn wearing the "wife beater" undershirt and carrying a rubber hose in Brute Force

Maybe you just haven't watched enough of them....

Why do they call it a wife beater undershirt?

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55 minutes ago, TheCid said:

Why do they call it a wife beater undershirt?

Ask an Italian.     My wife's relatives have been complaining about this stereotype for decades.       

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3 hours ago, TheCid said:

Why do they call it a wife beater undershirt?

It's a loathsome term. My father, who was not a wifebeater, always wore these. They used to be called athletic T-shirts.

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4 hours ago, TheCid said:

Why do they call it a wife beater undershirt?

I've always thought Marlon Brando had a little somethin' to do with getting this into the lexicon...

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(...as his character Stanley Kowalski was known to occasionally be rough with his wife STELLA, ya know)

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One explanation.  

The term wifebeater reportedly became synonymous for an undershirt after a criminal case in 1947. A Detroit native named James Hartford Jr. was arrested for beating his wife to death. News outlets printed a photo of Hartford in a stained undershirt and referred to him as "the wife beater."

Incidentally, my father wore this type tee shirt.

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2 minutes ago, TheCid said:

One explanation.  

The term wifebeater reportedly became synonymous for an undershirt after a criminal case in 1947. A Detroit native named James Hartford Jr. was arrested for beating his wife to death. News outlets printed a photo of Hartford in a stained undershirt and referred to him as "the wife beater."

Incidentally, my father wore this type tee shirt.

Might've been nice if you would've finished this thought up with somethin' like...

"And he NEVER laid a finger on my mother."

(...just for the purposes of clarification here you understand, Cid) ;)

LOL

 

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Just now, Dargo said:

Might've been nice if you would've finished this thought up with somethin' like...

"And he NEVER laid a finger on my mother."

(...just for the purposes of clarification here you understand, Cid) ;)

LOL

 

OK, he never laid a finger on my mother.  She probably could have taken him.

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2 minutes ago, TheCid said:

OK, he never laid a finger on my mother.  She probably could have taken him.

LOL

Wow! Kind'a sounds as if your mother might've been the Marjorie Main to your father's Percy Kilbride, eh?! ;)

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50 minutes ago, Dargo said:

LOL

Wow! Kind'a sounds as if your mother might've been the Marjorie Main to your father's Percy Kilbride, eh?! ;)

Yea,  poor pop,   in 1945 he couldn't get what he really wanted so he had to settle for Main.

 

Noir's Hard Luck Ladies: Linda Darnell - Criminal Element

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3 hours ago, kingrat said:

It's a loathsome term. My father, who was not a wifebeater, always wore these. They used to be called athletic T-shirts.

I know, how Noir of me.

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49 minutes ago, jamesjazzguitar said:

Yea,  poor pop,   in 1945 he couldn't get what he really wanted so he had to settle for Main.

 

Noir's Hard Luck Ladies: Linda Darnell - Criminal Element

Yep! ;)

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11 minutes ago, Dargo said:

Yep! ;)

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Funny but in this photo it is Dana Andrews that couldn't get what he wanted,  a hamburger!  

Pop made it for Dana,  but as soon as Linda showed up,   gave it away to her!!  

(and of course later on Dana still couldn't get what he wanted,   but this time it was Linda holding out on him).

 

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