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Israel has already announced that the halt on annexing parts of West Bank is only temporary.    Palestinians are breaking off diplomatic relations with UAE.

The UAE and US have been negotiating for UAE recognition of Israel for many years, before Trump even knew there is a UAE.  The UAE wants to do it because it will help insure the US continues to provide military equipment and other technology to them.  US will also continue to provide military and naval forces to protect UAE.

This is not the huge diplomatic breakthrough that Trump claims, much less because of him or Pompeo. 

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5 hours ago, TheCid said:

Israel has already announced that the halt on annexing parts of West Bank is only temporary.    Palestinians are breaking off diplomatic relations with UAE.

The UAE and US have been negotiating for UAE recognition of Israel for many years, before Trump even knew there is a UAE.  The UAE wants to do it because it will help insure the US continues to provide military equipment and other technology to them.  US will also continue to provide military and naval forces to protect UAE.

This is not the huge diplomatic breakthrough that Trump claims, much less because of him or Pompeo. 

 
“The big question is what did the Emiratis extract in order to take this step
and I think it is in the U.S. weapons sales category," said a former senior official.
 
The UAE has long pressed for more access to US military technology.
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The only significant favorable "Middle East News" will be when Lebanon, Syria, Saudi Arabia, Iran and the State of Palestine recognize Israel.  Until then it is just countries bribing the US in order to gain access to US weapons, technology and commerce.  Not to mention it decreases the likelihood that the US government will do anything about all the myriad human rights abuses in Middle Eastern countries.

As usual foreign countries are playing Trump, Pompeo, et. al. for all they are worth because they know nothing about foreign affairs and Trump fired anyone who did.

Of course Israel has already announced that it will NOT cease annexations and expansion into the West Bank areas.  In addition, Israel has announced that it will NOT give up the right to govern East Jerusalem, State of Palestine's designated capital.

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20 hours ago, NipkowDisc said:

Jerusalem belongs to the jewish people and was their holy city millennia before the birth of islam.

:)

And Washington DC belonged to the Native Americans long before the White Man came and stole it.  The land your home sits on belonged to Native Americans long before your White forefathers came and stole it.

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21 hours ago, NipkowDisc said:

Jerusalem belongs to the jewish people and was their holy city millennia before the birth of islam.

:)

Actually, Jerusalem belonged to the Canaanites first, whom the Jews wanted to exterminate.    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canaan#Hebrew_Bible.

Then came the Egyptians and then the Romans, Ottomans, British, etc.  Intermittently, the Jews controlled it for brief periods.   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Jerusalem

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic–Jewish_relations#:~:text=  Because Islam and Judaism share a common origin in the Middle East through Abraham, both are considered Abrahamic religions. There are many shared aspects between Judaism and Islam; Islam was strongly influenced by Judaism in its fundamental religious outlook, structure, jurisprudence and practice.[1] Because of this similarity, as well as through the influence of Muslim culture and philosophy on the Jewish community within the Islamic world, there has been considerable and continued physical, theological, and political overlap between the two faiths in the subsequent 1,400 years.

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21 hours ago, NipkowDisc said:

Jerusalem belongs to the jewish people and was their holy city millennia before the birth of islam.

:)

Did you know the Israel supports abortion and a woman's right to choose and it even pays for the procedure?

You disqualify supporting democrats for this but you seem to back Israel all the way.

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Part of the deal with UAE was for US to sell 35 fighter planes to UAE.  Nentanyahoo is opposing this.  So, with the "only temporary halt" to annexations and opposition to sell of military equipment to UAE, the recognition of Israel deal is already falling apart.

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1 hour ago, JakeHolman said:

 

What "peace deal?"  There is NO peace deal in the Middle East.  At best we have three  Middle Eastern countries agreeing to recognize Israel in order to get military, financial and technology support from the U.S.  To include arms sales that will benefit the ultra-wealthy Trump supporters and corporations.  The Arab League has not agreed to this recognition, neither has Iran - the biggest threat to peace in the Middle East.

We were actually closer to peace under Pres. Obama than we are now.  Trump screwed it up.

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On 8/17/2020 at 2:16 PM, ElCid said:

And Washington DC belonged to the Native Americans long before the White Man came and stole it.  The land your home sits on belonged to Native Americans long before your White forefathers came and stole it.

that's right. we white devil hon kees are real badasses.

we come. we conquer. we rule.

maybe what really motivates the left is not a desire for racial justice but jealousy.

I can understand. we are pretty tough.

:)

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Three Ways Trump's Israel-UAE Peace Breakthrough Transformed the Middle East This Week

BY BRYAN PRESTON SEP 10, 2020 11:48 AM EST
 
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President Trump’s Israel-United Arab Emirates diplomatic breakthrough continues rippling out across the world.

Saudi Arabia and Bahrain both announced Wednesday they will now allow flights from Israel to use their airspace en route to other destinations, according to the Times of Israel:

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/bryan-preston/2020/09/10/three-ways-trumps-israel-uae-peace-breakthrough-transformed-the-middle-east-this-week-n916445?utm_source=pjmedia&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=nl_pm&newsletterad=&bcid=d1d9d5db078c535efec82c0b247fe08a&recip=3533816

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UAE official hails normalization of relations with Israel as 'remarkable achievement'
Sep. 14, 2020 - 3:03 -

Omar Ghobash, assistant minister of public and cultural diplomacy for the United Arab Emirates, joins Fox News chief political anchor Bret Baier on 'Special Report.'

https://video.foxnews.com/v/6190759592001#sp=news-clips

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41 minutes ago, ElCid said:

If Trump thinks it is so good for UAE and Bahrain to have diplomatic relations with Israel, why doesn't the US have them with Cuba?

All Cuba has to do is Offer Twump a site for a casino golf course and hotel

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1 hour ago, ElCid said:

If Trump thinks it is so good for UAE and Bahrain to have diplomatic relations with Israel, why doesn't the US have them with Cuba?

You know the reason why GOPers don't warm-up to Cuba;   This is especially true for Presidential candidates since Florida has been a must-win state in election after election.

As for these UAE,  Bahrain and Israel;    This is good news and an accomplishment for the Trump admin.   One of the very few in the foreign policy area.  

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OPINION

 

The art of the peace deal, Trump’s masterful détente: Goodwin

September 16, 2020 | 12:00am

Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu stands with U.S. President Donald Trump after signing the Abraham Accords.

Before Tuesday’s remarkable events began at the White House, Palestinians in the West Bank dutifully protested the decisions by the United Arab Emirates and Bahrain to recognize Israel’s right to exist. Later, during the ceremony, Palestinians in Gaza fired two rockets into southern Israel, inflicting minor injuries on two civilians.

The rage of the Arab Street ain’t what it used to be.

Even the limited expressions of anger were mostly for television cameras. The Palestinians could have had their own state several times over the last two decades, but could never take yes for an answer, so now the train of history has left them standing at the station.

https://nypost.com/2020/09/16/the-art-of-the-peace-deal-trumps-masterful-detente-goodwin/?utm_source=maropost&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=nyp_postopinion&utm_content=20200916&tpcc=post_opinion&mpweb=755-9089123-720597128

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16 hours ago, jamesjazzguitar said:

You know the reason why GOPers don't warm-up to Cuba;   This is especially true for Presidential candidates since Florida has been a must-win state in election after election.

As for these UAE,  Bahrain and Israel;    This is good news and an accomplishment for the Trump admin.   One of the very few in the foreign policy area.  

But, it is not the big accomplishment that Trump, Kushner, et. al. are pushing.  Bahrain and UAE are fairly removed from the Palestinian vs. Israel situation.  On the other hand they are right across the Gulf from Iran and heavily dependent upon oil shipping in the Gulf.  Not to mention, they want access to US military equipment and US technology.

In addition, they expect the US to come to their aid with military forces if Iran tries anything against them.  While the US is downsizing its forces in Europe, it is increasing them in the Middle Eastern countries along the Gulf.

Is it progress?  Yes.  Is it really moving toward peace in the Middle East.  Not so much.  Not when it give Israel an open invitiation to do whatever it wants and Netanyahu will take advantage of that opening.

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1 minute ago, ElCid said:

But, it is not the big accomplishment that Trump, Kushner, et. al. are pushing.  Bahrain and UAE are fairly removed from the Palestinian vs. Israel situation.  On the other hand they are right across the Gulf from Iran and heavily dependent upon oil shipping in the Gulf.  Not to mention, they want access to US military equipment and US technology.

In addition, they expect the US to come to their aid with military forces if Iran tries anything against them.  While the US is downsizing its forces in Europe, it is increasing them in the Middle Eastern countries along the Gulf.

Is it progress?  Yes.  Is it really moving toward peace in the Middle East.  Not so much.  Not when it give Israel an open invitiation to do whatever it wants and Netanyahu will take advantage of that opening.

Well of course Trump et. al. are overselling the  impact.    They would have done this even if it wasn't < 10 weeks before the election.   I.e. that is just the nature of Trump.

As for peace between  the Palestinians and Israel;    Assuming Biden becomes President:    Biden would likely regroup the major EU powers to get back to trying to work out some type of two-state solution.     Before that could happen Palestinian leaders  would be under pressure to recognize Israel.      Even Hamas would be under such pressure to follow the path of these other Arab nations.     That was Kushner's plan from the start.    

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