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How about having a "Made for tv movie day"

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This is a very interesting topic...and there were several "event" movies that are probably lost to time because they were made for TV..


Here's one.."Love Among the Ruins"..a total delight..probably as good as anything in the theater at the time..it starred Olivier and Hepburn in their first pairing and was directed by Cuckor..I have a "store bought" video..but wish it was on DVD..


And how about these?


"Seven in Darkness"


"Dr. Cook's Garden"


"The Over the Hill Gang"

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I just went to Encore(someone suggested it) and it said "We would love to take request but we can only play movies from studios that we have a contract with.... so TCM maybe the only place that a viewer has some what of a say. So where else could I look...I'm open for suggestions...anyone...all I want is to see "I Love A Mystery" one more time before I die. By the way, do you know what movie I'm talking about?

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Well usually the director -- if it's a good director -- plans the movie in terms of how it's going to be shown... also from the production standpoint, it's easier usually to justify a bigger budget for theatrical releases -- although you occasionally see made-for-TV movies that also cost a pretty penny.


If you look at the 1964 version of The Killers, well, I think it looks a lot like a TV movie. Nonetheless, even though it was at one point going to be shown on TV, the executives changed their mind because of the violence and the recent Kennedy assassination, so it actually got a theatrical release.


There's other factors, I'm sure, but that's probably the gist of it.

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Have you seen "Dead Of Winter" (1987)? I thought it was a good movie but a classic.?.... Now that movie has been on TCM and is going to be played again on the 18th of April. It looks like it could have been made for tv but because it was in a theatre it gets to be see on TCM. (and you can rent it from Blockbuster, I might add) The movie that I'm looking for is no where to be found and I haven't seen it in over 20 years. I think some of these movies should be seen on TCM because that is why the station is so special..the love of movies..specially the one that are so rare

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I Love a Mystery was produced by Universal Television Entertainment, now NBC/Universal, i.e., parent of Bravo, Sundance, USA and NBC; with 25% ownership of A&E. Perhaps these cable channels have shown I Love a Mystery.


TCM has shown very few films from Universal.

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The AFI Salutes:


I totally agree on your point that TCM should show the early years of the AFI Tributes to film makers such as John Ford, Orson Welles, Alfred Hitchcock and the other early winners. These specials were less about the Q rating of those involved and more about the person being honored. Directed by John Ford, the Bogdanovich documentary, was originally commissioned for the AFI salute to John Ford, its first honoree.


From your keyboard to TCM's ear via the AFI rights department, those would be worthy of being shown on TCM because they are about classic studio era films, stars and film makers.


Made for TV Movies:

Before tv movies became the women in peril staples, they were the format where you could address the social issues of the day.


QBVII was one of my favorite tv movies from back in the day. Others include:


Brian's Song

That Certain Summer

The Glass House

Go Tell Alice


The Neon Ceiling

The Autobiography of Miss Jane Pittman

The Execution of Private Slovick

The Night Stalker


Police Story (before it became a series)


Kojack (from which the series came)

The Waltons' Thanksgiving Story

A Case of Rape

The Count of Monte Cristo

The Three Musketeers

A Man Without a Country

Great Expectations

David Cooperfield




Wonderful miniseries include:




Rich Man, Poor Man

The Winds of War


Lonesome Dove


and numerous Hallmark Hall of Fame broadcasts, many of which have been lovingly restored by UCLA Film and Television.


But the Made for TV Movies, Miniseries and Hallmark Hall of Fames should be shown on another channel dedicated to the history of television, not TCM.


Now, those early AFI tributes, that's different.


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As I said in the previous post, there is only one TCM. And I don't think they should change their format to include TV-movies. But you seem equally impassioned they should air this TV-movie.


OKAY, LET US LOOK AT THIS "classic" YOU WANT SO BADLY AIRED. I decided to look up reviews of this TV-movie, which I would have seen when I was younger (it lurks in the back of my mind, simply because talk shot host David Hartman was its star). I figured, let's see how good this movie you want introduced in TCM to change its format.


The very first review I came across was this:


"The script for I Love a Mystery was based on Philips Lord's classic radio serial "The Thing That Cries in the Night," but there's nothing classic or even remotely entertaining about the derisive, patronizing treatment of the source material herein. This made-for-TV "busted pilot" gathered dust for seven years before its 1973 premiere, and not without just cause. A further note: Though Don Knotts is advertised as one of the "stars," he shows up to sputter one miserable line at the end of the film! ~ Hal Erickson, All Movie Guide


Here is the very next review I found:


"There was a completed television pilot for a proposed ?I Love A Mystery? series, a series that never materialized. Made in 1967, it was a camp production, influenced overmuch by the then-popular "Batman" and "The Avengers" television shows. After it had been completed, it was immediately deemed too awful for broadcast airing! The pilot was shelved, where it sat buried in the vaults for several years, before being finally released in 1973, where it infrequently appeared on late-night television. The TV movie itself was called "I LOVE A MYSTERY", and the plot was a hybrid of ?The Thing that Cries in the Night? and ?The Fear that Creeps Like A Cat?, is a terribly sad mess, and is only viewable for die-hard fans of the series (and perhaps, not even then). The pilot occasionally appeared on late-night television for several years. A full synopsis, showing every gory and wincing detail, is provided on the unofficial "I Love A Mystery" web site."


I decided to take a trip over to that website, and here is what I found:


"It was horrid. It was ghastly. It was gruesome and shocking.

There are some things you don't see or know, because you *shouldn't* see and know them.


It was the "I Love A Mystery" TV pilot/movie.


Think of the worst of the "Monkees" crossed with "Our Man Flint" with a thin glaze of TV's "Batman" television series. Now, pour on top this concoction "The Ghost and Mr. Chicken" and you come within smelling distance of this late 1960's made-for-TV-production.


The retina bleeding colour scheme...the cochlear shredding sound...the mind-numbing plot...over the top and into the wild blue yonder acting...it was not worse than I imagined, it was worse than I possibly *could* imagine.


Carlton E. Morse must be in perpetual motion in his final resting spot at this mockery of his famous radio show creation. Or he must have needed the money very badly. Even the producers of this product knew this was awful, and shelved it for several years (until 1973) before it slithered out of the vaults leaving an equally smelly slime trail.


(sigh) Here's the story, with a plot that is an unholy hybrid of the more familiar ILAM stories "The Thing That Cries in the Night" and "The Fear That Creeps Like a Cat."


Don't say I didn't warn you!


Jack, Doc and Reggie are international detectives (at least, that's what they keep telling everyone they meet, "Hi, we're world famous detectives!) who own their own jumbo jet and flit about solving mysteries. Jack, played by Les Craven, is a Hollywood pretty boy ("...a mystery? I love it!" he chortles, smirking at the others); Reggie is played by some no-name actor who looks like a left-over Beatle, and Doc is a Texan who looks and acts like a human Mortimer Snerd (refer to your "Edgar Bergan & Charlie McCarthy" tapes to see the similarities).


All three wear two-button powder blue polyester suits, each with a crest with the capital letter *A* over the left breast (I suppose that "A" stands for the jet enhanced "A-1" Agency they belong to). All three look like Frat boys dressed by Lawrence Welk. All that was missing was the bubble machine...


After an initial throw-away scene introducing the characters, Jack, Doc and Reggie are seen relaxing on their jumbo jet, a cozy electric fire burning in the hearth. Through the television set on their jet, they are hired by an insurance agency to locate New York financier, Alexander Archer, worth a cool billion. As they learn from the toothy Brit on the screen, the insurance agency is out a cool million dollars if Archer is actually dead. Both Archer's partner, Randolf Cheney, and the insurance company think Archer is alive, and want the three to prove it. Head over to a hotel located in the Pacific North West, they are told, and more information will follow.


So far, so good. Wincingly bad acting, horrible costumes, anachronistic updating of the A-1 Detective agency. Things quickly go down from here, alas.


Bellhops pull guns. Bellhops are thwarted. A pippin of a girl wearing a telegram uniform delivers a telegram (but doesn't sing it, alas). Our trio run towards the waterfront, promptly jump on the wrong boat, and are carried out to see. Sailors thwart the boys with nets. The boys thwart the sailors. A big boat thwarts their little boat. Another little boat rescues our trio, the boat they were supposed to catch; a soft looking tippler named Job Cheney along with the boat's chauffeur, Andreas, rescues the boys. Only the rescuers from the little boat thwart the boys anyway just for the heck of it (needless to say, much thwarting occurs in this movie).


Jack, Doc and Reggie, their hair as gleaming as their polyester suits, arrive finally at their destination, a mysterious uncharted island where the Phantom Castle is located. They turn the tables on their captor, Job, and grab his rifle. Then all three march inside the main hall of the Castle (where the contents of a small zoo is stuffed and mounted and draped about as furniture), and they meet the master of the castle, Randolf Cheney. Who turns out to be a lady! "Just call me Randy," she breathes to our campy heroes.


Randalf Cheney (played by Ida Lupino, in a moment of suspended sanity else unvarnished greed) turns out to be Job's bitchy mother. Think of Joan Crawford from "Mommy Dearest", and swap the coat-hangers with an overly long riding crop, and you got things pretty close. After Job gets slapped by Mommy for allowing himself to be caught, our trio in polyester learn from Randolf some unpleasant facts. To their dismay, they are told that there never was any Alexander Archer, and that the whole point of the adventurous exercises the three have undergone are but the preliminary rounds of some unnamed scientific experiment that she is conducting. Jack questions the logic of all this, pointing out that a engraved pen he picked up has the initials *A.A* on them; fictional men don't engrave their initials on pens.


Randy bids the three to go to their rooms, each decorated as overstuffed taxidermy museums. Doc finds as secret passage in his room, Jack finds a near naked girl in his bed, and Reggie finds just an empty room (hmm...some things don't change from the radio serial, do they, folks!).


Jack discovers his girl is named Faith or Fay Cheney, Randy Cheney's daughter ("Who are you?" she asks. "Why, I'm a world famous detective!" Jack replies with a smirk). Jack learns that Faith has two other sisters, Randy's daughters; Charity (shortened Cherry), and Hope (if her name is shortened, we never hear it mentioned out loud). We have now entered a perverted version of the ILAM story, "The Thing that Cries in the Night."


Doc finds one exit to his secret passage is the back of the shower in Cherry's room, the latter whom immediately begins emitting painfully loud shrieks. Doc beats a hasty retreat, after taking one long glance and a long cold shower.


Meanwhile, Reggie realizes he isn't seeing any half-clothed females, and rushes over to Jack's room where he finds Jack in the company of Fay. Suddenly a baby starts crying, there is a thump outside like a body falling down stairs. They rush outside, and run into Doc at the head of the stairs. Formal introductions are exchanged for several minutes, before rushing downstairs where the unconscious body of Cherry is lying at the base of the stairs, clad only in a damp yellow towel.


Jack does some peculiar first-aid/**** on Cherry while Doc dries his face and hair on her awfully short towel. The girl revives simultaneously with the arrival of Randy Cheney, who bids the three to come to her laboratory. Reluctantly, the three watch the two girls oscillate upstairs in their unmentionables, before going to the laboratory.


By the way, the rest of the movie makes even *less* sense.


In the lab, the boys first agree to take apart Randy to learn the whereabouts of Archer, then suddenly agree to be guinea pigs in some experiments of hers. They change their mind when she reverses her original statement that there is *no* Alexander Archer, to the line that she has Archer captive but in a cell monitored by a time-clock; if she is not free to punch the clock on a regular basis, Archer dies. Thwarted!


So, they undergo some simple medical tests involving heart rate, blood pressures, and psychological testing. I found the scene where Doc is asked what the Rorschach images remind him of hysterical ( "Why, they just look like ink spots!"). The experiments over, with the boys resting in the lab, suddenly voices are heard outside the window. They look, and see Hope with the boat's chauffeur, Andreas. Hope takes her dress off revealing clothes most...uh...revealing. The chauffeur is shot. The girl faints. The boys argue as to who gets to carry her up to her room. The chauffeur's body goes missing. And Mrs. Randolf Cheney sneers and domineers.


The boys decide to do some exploring of Doc's secret passage. Beyond finding many cobwebs that still don't cling to their polyester suits, Reggie finds a note in his pocket claiming to be from Alexander Archer. They also find wires leading to a time-clock in Randy's office, a time clock which Randy claims controls the life or death of Alexander Archer if it is not punched on a regular basis! Randy finds them! The boys crow their find! Randy mentions that there are *many* time clocks on her desk; which one controls life, and which will cause death? The boys sure don't know, and give up, thwarted once again!


Dinner is called. Job is shot! The murder weapon is found in the flower-box. Jack reconstructs the solution to the killing by finding the black thread. He re-enacts the crime. Doc ducks, and narrowly misses the bullet. Hope rushes in, her bosom heaving. Cherry is missing!


The boys find her clothing, scattered down the front stairs; shoes, stockings, dress, slip, and a size 36 C-cup; down to the furnace room they race for more hot stuff! The furnace is on full blast, flames all a-rage! Cherry is found wearing a burlap sack, tied up and gagged. They return her to her room, the walls measled with Mother Goose characters, and question her closely.


No face, no legs and a red smock is what her captor wore, they learn (an easy man to spot in a police line-up!). The chauffeur's body is found in her toy box. The boys leave the two together, and head back to their rooms with pencils, graph paper and much skull sweat, eager to have a planning session and crack this case!


During the planning session, Doc's bed (complete with fake grey fur) swallows him up unbeknownst to the others. The bed is seen trundling along tracks down to a secret lair that closely resembles a Roman amphitheater. The bed hoists itself upright, and Randy shoves smelling salts under Doc's nose. He wakes up, and realizes his dire predicament, for three cages attached to the amphitheater houses giant lions and lionesses (both complete with fake grey fur)!


Randy hints that the *experiment* is about to begin, and experiment where Doc must face the three wild animals in hand to hand battle wearing only a loin cloth. When Doc mentions he is still wearing his impeccable polyester suit (with the A-crest on the left breast), Randy has robot arms attached to the very versatile bed undress Doc, who is reduced to giggles and his boxers.


Meanwhile, Jack and Reggie have noticed Doc is missing! They round up the three girls in their baby-dolls, and go prancing about the secret passages and labyrinths of the Phantom Castle, in search of Doc. Needless to say, the three girls giggle and lead the way. They also mention that Alexander Archer is their father, which means he is the husband of Randolf Cheney!


Meanwhile, Doc realizes that giggles and boxers are a poor combination, and promptly loses one of them. Randy starts doing a diabolical countdown, after first pointing out that she has also prepared an eyewitness to events, a mysterious figure garbed all in black. Jack and Reggie burst in on the scene. The girls start fighting amongst themselves. Much screaming, hair pulling and tickling begins. Chaos reigns.


For starters, a cage drops in Reggie and Jack. The big cats are released. The baby starts to cry. Doc starts to sweat. Randy takes notes. The girls continue their own cat fight. Reggie short-circuits their cage door with some power leads while Randy cries foul play. The black figure watches. The lions start to pace. Reggie releases Doc, and both scamper on top of his bed. Randy rages. Jack short circuits the lions. Randy cries, "You are ruining my experiment!" The girls fall out of the amphitheater bleachers into the arena. Sudden silence descends. The lions are dead. The battle is over.


Randy is captured. The girls reveal that Cherry Martin is dead (she was killed when the others fell on top of her). Job is revealed as the chauffeur's killer, and Cherry, why she killed Job! Why? Because Randy was a bad mother, and a bad wife. Jack babbles psychobabble. The figure in black is unmasked; why it's Don Knotts! Er...it's Alexander Archer! "You're a bad mother...and a bad wife!" he shouts out, bug eyed!


The Case of The Fear that Creeps and Cries in the Night Like a Smelly Cat is over (I won't dignify it with the word "solved").


The boys depart for their Jumbo Jet. Reggie plays "Valse Trieste" on the Jumbo Jet's Hammond organ. Doc listens to country and western music with headphones, and Jack, why he is hearing about their next case!


Only now, as their television link tells them, this is THE END.


And none too soon for my sanity! Thank goodness, there wasn't a sequel!"



For this, you want to alter TCM's completely rare programming vision?

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Hi Lynn,

Sorry if I gave the impression that I really believe that TCM will or should show Made for TV stuff anytime. I don't think that anyone who posts here thinks that realistically, TCM should or would change its format to incorporate Made for TV movies into their schedule, least of all me.


As I mentioned, I can't really think of any made for the tube flicks that I personally need to see again, though I'm sure others have their faves. Miniseries worth revisiting seem to be another matter, and would make excellent fare for the numerous cable outlets out there, that show what I regard as drivel for the most part. While I believe that Viacom owns TVland, and may have their own financial interests and a limited library to draw upon--they have shown some made for tv movies recently and I'd hope that they'd procure some mini-series in the future as well.


The Hallmark & Omnibus programs would seem ideal for PBS or the late, great Arts channel Ovation, that my Time Warner outlet cancelled last year. Now that Bravo and A&E have taken that proverbial handbasket ride to hades, I don't think they'd consider such intellectually astute works for a minute. I was just woolgathering, I guess. Sort of wish that much more was available for folks to purchase, though.


I think that the AFI tributes might be appropriate for TCM to air to highlight a featured player or director, if, as you point out, the rights issues could be overcome.


Do any of the industry-savvy people who come here forsee a time when downloading such material via computer will become a practical reality? Would that possibly be a less costly way for "lost" or "forgotten" material gathering dust in archives to be distributed and passed on to a new generation?


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Filmlover, I do sincerely enjoy your input and if I had a question about a movie it's comforting to know I could ask you. I don't know many people that has such a passion for movies like yourself. I'm not being sarcastic. Do you or Otterhere work with movies or the arts? I am impressed, really, no joke.

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A TV movie I remember fondly is "The Blue Knight" with William Holden. Like some others mentioned, I haven't seen it in forever.


Made for TV are most likely to show up on Encore compared to any other channel I know unless you count Lifetime Movie Channel. (Don't really watch that one.)

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I remember many good movies made for TV- Suddenly Last Summer, Dark Victory, Rockabye baby, See How They Run Mayday at 40,00 Feet, Hijack, Terror At 37,000 Feet, Killdozer, The Alpha Caper. Money To Burn, Magnificent Thief, Cry Panic, Terror On The 40th Floor, Runaway!tion: Murder, Trapped, Deadly Tower, Winds Of War, The Night The Bridge Fell Down, Memphis, By Dawns Early Light, 12:01, Fire!, Wheels- auto industry intrigue, WWIII- terrorists sabatoge the Alaskan Pipeline to start a war. Many well known TV shows started as 2-hour tv-movies. These and many other TV movies are gathering dust somewhere, thousands maybe. TV movies have been around for about 40 years or so and 90% of them haven't seen the light of day in many many years. Why? I would welcome a TV movie day or better yet, a cable channel devoted to showing all those TV movies. Could be a winner. D.

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I remember many good movies made for TV- Suddenly Last Summer, Dark Victory, Rockabye baby, See How They Run Mayday at 40,00 Feet, Hijack, Terror At 37,000 Feet, Killdozer, The Alpha Caper. Money To Burn, Magnificent Thief, Cry Panic, Terror On The 40th Floor, Runaway!tion: Murder, Trapped, Deadly Tower, Winds Of War, The Night The Bridge Fell Down, Memphis, By Dawns Early Light, 12:01, Fire!, Wheels- auto industry intrigue, WWIII- terrorists sabatoge the Alaskan Pipeline to start a war. Many well known TV shows started as 2-hour tv-movies. These and many other TV movies are gathering dust somewhere, thousands maybe. TV movies have been around for about 40 years or so and 90% of them haven't seen the light of day in many many years. Why? I would welcome a TV movie day or better yet, a cable channel devoted to showing all those TV movies. Could be a winner. D.

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This thread was buried until some recent posts resurrected it, and I didn't read the entire thread, but, based on the few screens I did read, I haven't read this much vitriol since I stopped reading "The Black List" thread.


It's hard to imagine TCM changing its apparent policy of not showing made-for-TV movies and, as a general proposition, I didn't watch them when they were originally run (I didn't watch *Roots* , which probably puts me in the lowest quartile); however, *Duel* is a fine film and still my favorite Spielberg (excepting *A.I.: Artificial Intelligence* , but I suppose Kubrick gets some credit for that) and *Executioner's Song* is a fond memory.


The issue, for me at least, is quality. What does it matter how it was recorded: 35mm vs. 16mm vs. 8mm vs. videotape vs. kinoscope. What does it matter where it was first shown: art deco theatre vs. multiplex vs. grindhouse vs. art house vs. church basement vs. TV.


If showing a film work on TV first excludes it from ever being a classic movie, then there are alot of lovers of Kieslowski's *The Decalogue* who have been fooled into thinking they are watching a "classic (or future classic) movie" (or "movies"). Shame on them.

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I'm starting to see a coupla new names on the threads. NEW members??? I'm beginning to have doubts.


I also don't see TCM changing its policy but with five-hundred channels on the airwaves, perhaps one of those can be dedicated to this idea.


If they do...I'll be on the lookout for the Queens of the tv-movies: Elizabeth Montgomery and Lindsay Wagner.

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Have thousands of TV movies, miniseries, and all that fallen off the face of the earth? Just where are all these movies? Where is Autobiography Og Miss Jane Pitman, Horror Ay 37,000 Feet, Winds Of War, Special Bulletin, Roots, Fail Safe, Shogun, Ike, Sounder, Missles Of October, Brian's Song, Go Ask Alice, Rich Man Poor Man, Thornbirds, By Dawns Early Light- Martin Landau as the President, Gideon's Trumpet with Henry Fonda, Prescription: Murder- 1st Columbo, The Marcus-Neilsen Murders, Dune, The House On Greenapple Road, Atomic Train, Long Gone, Murder Can Kill You, Comedy Company, Linda, In Broad Daylight, Boy In the Plastic Bubble, Triangle Factory Fire, Dr. Cook's Garden, Countdown To Looking Glass, Birds Of Prey, Someone's Watching Me, SST Death FlightQuestion Of Guilt, Earth 2, Blue Knight, In The Custody Of Strangers, SOS Titanic, Cry Panic, 7 In Darkness, Ironclads, the Alan Freed Story, Diamond Trap, V, Pearl, Dead Silence, Truman, Starflight: Plane That Couldn't Land, The Late Shift, Hanging By A Thread, the Night That Panicked America, Stranger At My Door, Night Visitors, Sweetwater, 5 Desperate Women, Doppleganger, Nowhere To Land, Rat Pack, Sunstroke, The Taking Of Beverly Hills, Salvage, The Day After, Almost Golden, Taken, Shake Rattle And Rock, Ohms, Journey To the Center Of the Earth, The 13th Floor, Skyjacked, Dinotopia, Houston We've Got A Problem, Conspiracy, Pray For the Wildcats, Helter Sketler, Death Of Ocean View Park, Doomsday Flight, Trapped On 37th Floor, She Cried Murder, Pandora's Clock, Beg Borrow Steal, the Day the Earth Moved, Skyway To Death, Short Walk To Daylight, Detour To Nowhere, Earth Star Voyager, Fire!, Martian Chronicles, to name some that come to mind, and many hundreds more? Where are all these movies? Why are we denied the chance to see them again? What a shame! D.

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Some of these turn up on Encore from time to time. "Brian's Song" and "Gideon's Trumpet" among them.


One thing you'll probably have a harder time getting are the miniseries you mentioned. There seems to be less of an outlet for the long form series.


Some of your list I'm not familiar with but if you didn't know Lifetime has their own movie channel which shows nothing but TV movies. Unsure whether it fits your list though.

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Hi, I found The Late Shift at Blockbusters a few years ago. Higgins was great as David Letterman. And how about Oppenheimer? It was a seven-part mini in 1980 on PBS, with Sam Waterston as Oppie. I found it at the Los Angeles Radio&Television Museum (probably not the exact name). We need that one on DVD!

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>Where are all these movies? Why are we denied the chance to see them again?


Go ask the managers of the 30 channels that show made-for-tv movies.


If I want to see The Twilight Zone, I watch it on the Sci-Fi channel.

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There are some channels that show an occasional made-for-TV movie, usually of recent vintage- and the Lifetime movie channel hows lots of TV movies- mostly ones that were shown on Lifetime. Encore does show the odd TV flick now and again. Last night I was looking up some of these TV movies at IMDB. It seems that a good many people want these type of movies to be shown on TV again, or released on DVD. It seems like some enterprising person could make money off of a "classic" TV movie channel. Especially since 90%+ of such movies from the 1960's, 1970s, and 1980s aren't available anywhere. And it's 99% for miniseries. For movies made since 1990, the percentage is a bit better, although many of these were made for Lifetime. So, a TV movie channel would be great, even though it could keep my TIVO busy. I hear the FIOS TV is coming. Maybe they will have such a channel. Does anyone know of a great website to find out if any TV movies will be shown in the future and where? The internet is devoid of any substantial amount of TV movie info, other than IMDB. And they don't list cable or DVD availability. So, so we lovers of TV movies are SOL. D

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