MissGoddess Posted August 16, 2009 Author Share Posted August 16, 2009 The more violent a situation is, the closer we get, until it almost hurts us to look, because we are right inside it. Jackie---that is one of the most perceptive, interesting things I've read on this forum. You need to do this professionally. I love that quote about Cary Grant and the locations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFavell Posted August 16, 2009 Share Posted August 16, 2009 Thanks very much! I was thinking how much I love your perceptions about character and wishing I had something more interesting to say. I want to post some photos of Julie, and put something together about her, but it is all too unformed in my mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissGoddess Posted August 17, 2009 Author Share Posted August 17, 2009 > {quote:title=JackFavell wrote:}{quote} > Thanks very much! I was thinking how much I love your perceptions about character and wishing I had something more interesting to say. I want to post some photos of Julie, and put something together about her, but it is all too unformed in my mind. Take your time, but I'm sure interested in what you come up with! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CineMaven Posted August 18, 2009 Share Posted August 18, 2009 A lively and vigorous discussion was had when we all wrote about "ON DANGEROUS GROUND." For those who enjoyed the discussion and didn't participate becuz you didn't see the film...have no fear. On August 27th, "ON DANGEROUS GROUND" will be repeated. You can check out Robert Ryan's cold and steely cop melt in the light of Ida Lupino. And that's Ida's day as well. You'll see her different portrayals when you check her out opposite Robert Ryan, John Garfield, (hubby) Howard Duff, Dana Andrews, George Raft, (hubby) Louis Hayward and Bogie. But why rush the month. Let's savor the anticipation. Hmmmmmmmmm... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingrat Posted August 18, 2009 Share Posted August 18, 2009 For all Robert Ryan fans: I just posted about CROSSFIRE in the Dmytryk thread under Films & Filmmakers. Please join in the fun! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HollywoodGolightly Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 Thanks again, kingrat. Just had a chance to watch yet another great RR performance in Bad Day at Black Rock, what a great job he did there - though of course he was matched by the great Spencer Tracy. Great movie, great cast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HollywoodGolightly Posted August 31, 2009 Share Posted August 31, 2009 Two great Robert Ryan performances come up this Wednesday morning on TCM: On Dangerous Ground is shown again at 3:30am ET, followed immediately by The Set-Up at 5am ET. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CineMaven Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 Thought of you when I saw that TCM was airing "On Dangerous Ground" and "The Set-Up" back to back on Wednesday morning. Two stunning portrayals from this man's man. Hope you're feeling better and rested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissGoddess Posted September 2, 2009 Author Share Posted September 2, 2009 hi CinemAva! Yes, feeling better thank you. I hear TCM is airing Lonelyhearts in December...you should catch that if you haven't seen it. It features outstanding performances by Robert Ryan and Myrna Loy as an embittered married couple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HollywoodGolightly Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 Lonelyhearts is on the schedule for _Dec. 10_ at 12pm Eastern Time: http://www.tcm.com/tcmdb/title.jsp?stid=17637 Robert Ryan fans should also take note of the 2 Ryan movies showing this Friday, Sept. 4: *Behind The Rising Sun* (1943) 8:30am ET A Japanese publisher urges his American-educated son to side with the Axis. Cast: Margo, Tom Neal, J. Carroll Naish, Robert Ryan Dir: Edward Dmytryk BW-88 mins, TV-PG *Tender Comrade* (1943) 11:15am ET Lady welders pool their resources to share a house during World War II. Cast: Ginger Rogers, Robert Ryan, Ruth Hussey, Patricia Collinge Dir: Edward Dmytryk BW-102 mins, TV-PG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissGoddess Posted September 2, 2009 Author Share Posted September 2, 2009 TO BE SURE YOU SEE THIS THAT I WROTE TO YOU, CINEMAVEN I WILL REPOST IT: hi CinemAva! Yes, feeling better thank you. I hear TCM is airing Lonelyhearts in December...you should catch that if you haven't seen it. It features outstanding performances by Robert Ryan and Myrna Loy as an embittered married couple. I still firmly believe common courtesy, in spite of its deterioration in society and, sadly, on this board. I hope one person's unhappiness turns to happiness one day, and they can stop trying to hurt others. Until then, I will continue to excercise the patience I have learned always brings what one most hopes for in the end. You regulars of this thread need no explanation of the above and it is _quite_ on topic since the subject is LONELYhearts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CineMaven Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 Hi there Miss Goddess. I didn't know TCM was planning on airing "Miss Lonelyhearts." I saw the movie once more than twenty years ago. I look forward to seeing it again. Since you and others on this thread opened my eyes to Robert Ryan nothing can keep your posts buried on this gorgeous hunk of M-A-N. Thanxx for reaching out. And remember if anyone thinks their posts are being missed, you don't have to say anything, you don't have to do anything. Oh...maybe just PM. You know how to PM, don'cha? You just put your fingers on the keyboard and... Message was edited by CineMaven: so sue me...I'm no Howard Hawks or Hemingway. :0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CineMaven Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 You may have seen and recorded this already...but I thought Ryan did a great turn as a romantic lead with Ginger Rogers in "TENDER COMRADE." I thought they looked cute together. I liked 40's Ginger myself. Long hair...wise-cracks! Tough babe. "Tender Comrade" got a whole lotta people in trouble. How times have changed. Or have they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HollywoodGolightly Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 Glad someone else mentioned Tender Comrade - it starts in 45 minutes! *Tender Comrade* (1943) Lady welders pool their resources to share a house during World War II. Cast: Ginger Rogers, Robert Ryan, Ruth Hussey, Patricia Collinge Dir: Edward Dmytryk BW-102 mins, TV-PG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissGoddess Posted September 4, 2009 Author Share Posted September 4, 2009 > {quote:title=CineMaven wrote:}{quote} > You may have seen and recorded this already...but I thought Ryan did a great turn as a romantic lead with Ginger Rogers in "TENDER COMRADE." I thought they looked cute together. I liked 40's Ginger myself. Long hair...wise-cracks! Tough babe. > > "Tender Comrade" got a whole lotta people in trouble. How times have changed. Or have they? I'm okay with Ryan and the others in this movie but Ginger grates on my nerves here. Tough babe? Yes, indeedy. I think she'd scare John Wayne in this movie. I've found her post-1930s work/persona very hit and miss with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CineMaven Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 "I think she'd scare John Wayne in this movie." - MissGoddess. Scare John Wayne??? (LOL!) Crikey, that is tough. Say, is there any other actor/actress that you liked in the 30's but you didn't like in the 40's? Or vice-versa? You know what I mean...is there anyone you liked (or dis-liked) in one era than you did in another? Oh, this question is open for anyone. Thanx! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissGoddess Posted September 4, 2009 Author Share Posted September 4, 2009 > > Scare John Wayne??? (LOL!) Crikey, that is tough. Say, is there any other actor/actress that you liked in the 30's but you didn't like in the 40's? Or vice-versa? You know what I mean...is there anyone you liked (or dis-liked) in one era than you did in another? > Good question! I can't think...I know I'm not as fond of Joan Crawford and Bette Davis' post-1950 work as I am of their earlier stuff. Oh, and I definitely prefer Myrna Loy's characters before she became very domesticated. As for the male actors, I prefer Bogart in the 40s to his earlier stuff, which I felt was more one-dimensional. He also acquired a certain assuredness to his craft. I definitely prefer the weary, post-1950 Frank Sinatra movie roles to his earlier, skinny "innocents". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HollywoodGolightly Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 Anyone else watching Tender Comrade right now? Robert looks so _handsome_ in uniform! :x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankGrimes Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 I see you are getting buried within minutes... again, Miss G. Classy. I know what is up, you know what is up, those with a brain know what is up. It's a damn shame those who are stealing money don't know a damn thing. Imcompetence. Should I play the pathetic "stay on-topic" butt-kiss game? Surely. Is anyone watching Robert Ryan on TCM right now? I am! Look at the exclamation point. That makes me genuine!!! Phonies suck. Robert Ryan is trolly (spelling?) my favorite actor. Gloria Grahame is trolly (spelling?) my favorite actress. Go ahead and zap me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HollywoodGolightly Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 Robert Ryan and Ginger Rogers, too. But emphasis on Robert, because he's so handsome and rugged and... well you know the rest. Here's a nice still I found: Robert Ryan and Ginger Rogers in "Tender Comrade" (1943) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissGoddess Posted September 4, 2009 Author Share Posted September 4, 2009 > {quote:title=FrankGrimes wrote:}{quote} > I see you are getting buried within minutes... again, Miss G. Classy. I know what is up, > you know what is up, those with a brain know what is up. It's a damn shame those who > are stealing money don't know a damn thing. Imcompetence. > That's because we, the victims, are the "petty" ones. Making a fuss over nothing. Being stalked is not against the code of conduct, after all. > Should I play the pathetic "stay on-topic" butt-kiss game? Surely. > > Is anyone watching Robert Ryan on TCM right now? I am! Look at the > exclamation point. That makes me genuine!!! Phonies suck. > > Robert Ryan is trolly (spelling?) my favorite actor. Gloria Grahame is trolly (spelling?) my > favorite actress. Go ahead and zap me. Very noir! Very on topic. Isn't it rather like Robert Ryan in Act of Violence? He'd suddenly just be there...and you couldn't run or hide. Except he had more justification... We've truly done NOTHING whatever to deserve how we're being treated on this board (except to contribute some of the best and most deeply interesting classic film discussion on it.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFavell Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 I'm with Miss Goddess on this one, Maven. Ginger is bugging me in this one, she might as well be playing all her scenes by herself for the amount of attention she is giving to Ryan. She's way over the top. I thought her eyeballs were gonna pop out of her head during that farewell scene at the train station. And Ryan should have walked away when she had that meltdown when he proposed. Too much.... My two cents is that Ryan and Ruth Hussey should have made some time on the side. I love her. I like Joan Crawford best in the 30's, then the forties, but by the fifties she bothers me. I am not crazy about Olivia De Havilland in the fifties either, but it's not as strong a feeling. What I am finding interesting about this movie is the socialist slant to the whole thing. Maybe if we all put our rations of words together, there'd be enough to....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HollywoodGolightly Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 > {quote:title=JackFavell wrote:}{quote} > What I am finding interesting about this movie is the socialist slant to the whole thing. > The underlying theme of the movie actually was used against Dmytryk and screenwriter Dalton Trumbo by Sen. McCarthy and the HUAC, as the TCM article reminds us: The communal living situation of the women in Tender Comrade was later pointed to as an expression of the screenwriter's and director's ideology. In her autobiography, Ginger: My Story, the actress wrote, "Some of Dalton Trumbo's dialogue had a Communistic turn, which upset me deeply. I complained to the front office and sent notices to those in authority, including director Edward Dmytryk, that they would have to make a finer sifting of this script if they wanted me to continue with the film. In order to satisfy me, David Hempstead, the producer, gave the other actors the dialogue, 'Share and share alike! ' that I was unhappy about. I still hold strong feelings against communism because it is atheistic and anti-God." http://www.tcm.com/thismonth/article/?cid=79804 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissGoddess Posted September 4, 2009 Author Share Posted September 4, 2009 Robert Ryan + Ruth Hussey would have been perfect! Maybe if we all put our rations of words together, there'd be enough to....... There aren't enough rations in the world to defeat the irrational. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFavell Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 > {quote:title=MissGoddess wrote:}{quote} > Robert Ryan + Ruth Hussey would have been perfect! > > Maybe if we all put our rations of words together, there'd be enough to....... > > There aren't enough rations in the world to defeat the irrational. Hey! That's a great line! It deserves a play to be written around it. I wish there were more Ruth Hussey movies. I think I've only seen three. The one thing I LOVED about Ryan (except that his head was behind Ginger at the time he was saying it) was that line - "The way I love you, it's like a fever all over me.... " W-w-w-wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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