sudable44 Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 I cannot believe that turner classic movies is only showing two of Miss Kerrs' films. Jane Wyman had a whole day dedicated to her, as did several others. Message was edited by: sudable44 Link to post Share on other sites
pintorini Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 Blast! Yes indeed, I would have expected more of a tribute for the late great Ms. Kerr. Though I will certainly be tuning in to see, at least, separate tables, which I have never seen before. Link to post Share on other sites
sudable44 Posted October 18, 2007 Author Share Posted October 18, 2007 You'll love it Link to post Share on other sites
Film_Fatale Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 Can't compare the two. Jane Wyman's tribute had more movies but was kept off the primetime schedule. Kerr's will be 2 movies on the primetime slot. Link to post Share on other sites
Hibi Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 Only TWO movies??? They have so many of hers at their disposal. What a joke............ Link to post Share on other sites
Film_Fatale Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 Seriously, how many people have the time or inclination to watch more than 2 movies on a given night? Very few people are actually going to watch 6+ movies in a row. Link to post Share on other sites
jemjb Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 It is surprising, especially since so many of her films play often on TCM. The Hucksters, Eternity, Mogambo, Black Narcisuss, Separate Tables, etc are on often. Why not now! Link to post Share on other sites
lzcutter Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 Only TWO movies??? They have so many of hers at their disposal. What a joke>> Hibi, TCM does not have many of her films at their disposal. As we learned almost two years ago, TCM does not own what used to be called the Turner Film Library any more. When Ted Turner did the merge with Time-Warner/AOL back at the turn of the century, the Turner Film Library was part of that merge. That library is now under the care of Warner Brothers. TCM has to rent all the films they show whether they are from WB or another studio. Film rentals and leases are contingent on many things including how often over the course of months or years a film can be aired. When a beloved actor or actress dies, TCM has to scramble to put together a Tribute afternoon or evening. The films available are based on the rental agreements that were made long before the actor or actress passed away and that can often dictate what films can be shown as a tribute. We all like to believe that all TCMProgrammr has to do is call down to the vault and say, "Get me a line-up of Deborah Kerr films for a tribute!" but that is not the reality. The reality is far more business like, I'm afraid. Link to post Share on other sites
Hibi Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 The longer the tribute the more chances more people will watch SOME of them........ Link to post Share on other sites
chrtbsh Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 There are a couple of reasons we don't have more films in our tribute. First, it's true that we don't have access to all of her movies all of the time and there are several we wish we had that aren't available to us. But it's true we do have more than we're playing. One issue is that we feel the tribute should definitely include primetime and so we need to get rid of one of our theme nights, and it's always difficult to decide which night that should be. For example, we didn't want to interrupt Henry Fonda as SOM or the Louis Malle tribute or the Biopics festival or the horror films, etc. Also there are days and nights that we're playing either TCM premieres, or we're playing films that we are about to lose for a long period of time - we don't like to take those out of the schedule either. We hate to displace the two movies that were on that Sunday night but it seemed like the best festival to eliminate. And the silent film we have that night is the premiere of the restored version of "Battleship Potemkin" and we didn't want to lose that one, so we kept it to a double-feature. Also, we are asking Robert Osborne to do last-minute introductions for Ms. Kerr, but given the time frame we didn't want to add too many films to the workload. I'm sure there are other ways and nights it could have been done and everyone will have a different opinion on what's best. That's the reasoning at least. Link to post Share on other sites
Poinciana Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 Maybe back in the dusty vaults TCM might find The Chalk Garden. I used to rent it at the library so it is out there. Deborah as Miss Madrigal, Hayley Mills, John Mills and Edith Evans - impressive cast. Link to post Share on other sites
spazhoward Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 tcmprogrammr, I sincerely feel for you and your co-workers. Looking at the upcoming schedule, I'd have a hard time finding anything to remove, too. I know the horror and sci-fi movies scheduled this month are just a bunch of fluff, but hey, 'tis the season... in October, I want my candy corn and guys running around in rubber monster suits! And as much as I love badfilm, I'm also looking forward to the restored version of "Battleship Potemkin" and the Louis Malle tribute. I don't know what else you could cut out of the schedule to make more room. Honestly, I think you guys do a pretty good job, all things considered. There's just so many movies, and so little time. I guess you could show "Eye of the Devil" and count it as a horror offering and a Deborah Kerr tribute, but it's just not that good of a movie. Too bad she didn't star in "Night of the GIANT Iguana"... Link to post Share on other sites
mjryan Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 Thanks for the explanation and I do understand how difficult it must be to change the schedule on such short notice. It's a little easier to take when I noticed that there are five or six Kerr films coming up in the next few months. I would like to put in a request for a day of her films, possibly next year during her birthday or during summer under the stars. And, if the lesser known films could be included, that would be wonderful. I love the 'big' films you show but, for me, the true value of your channel is in the lesser known and/or not as easily available films that you show. Link to post Share on other sites
CineMaven Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 Okay. I guess I understand...intellectually...logically. Wish you could jump through hoops on Kerr's behalf. She was quite an icon and our hearts are broken. Link to post Share on other sites
Film_Fatale Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 Makes sense. I still think it's the intention that counts, not the running time. Link to post Share on other sites
CineMaven Posted October 19, 2007 Share Posted October 19, 2007 Oh yes..."The Chalk Garden." Deborah has a secret too in that film. She was wonderful trying to help a mixed up child (Hayley Mills) who liked to start fires. I remember being impressed with the score too. Geez, this is sad news. Link to post Share on other sites
CineMaven Posted October 20, 2007 Share Posted October 20, 2007 Eeeeww! What a backhanded way to Link to post Share on other sites
Bronxgirl48 Posted October 20, 2007 Share Posted October 20, 2007 I'd give up the Halloween schedule for a Kerr tribute; that's how much I loved her -- I wouldn't do it for many other actresses. Message was edited by: Bronxgirl48 Link to post Share on other sites
sudable44 Posted October 20, 2007 Author Share Posted October 20, 2007 If memory serves me correctly. Shelly Winters had a primetime tribute with more than two movies. Message was edited by: sudable44 Link to post Share on other sites
sudable44 Posted October 20, 2007 Author Share Posted October 20, 2007 why not cut " Heavan can wait " and replace with another Kerr film like Black Narcisus for example Link to post Share on other sites
hlywdkjk Posted October 21, 2007 Share Posted October 21, 2007 "why not cut " Heavan can wait " - sudabel It has been replaced. Sunday Night's schedule originally contained the Double Feature of Here Comes Mr. Jordan and Heaven Can Wait. Both of those films have been replaced. Sunday Night will feature the films From Here To Eternity and Separate Tables. The regular Sunday Programming of "Silent Sunday Nights" and "TCM Imports" will not be prempted and the showings of Battleship Potemkin and Fanny And Alexander are still on the schedule. Kyle In Hollywood Link to post Share on other sites
sudable44 Posted October 21, 2007 Author Share Posted October 21, 2007 I know..I didnt realize that til after my post... Link to post Share on other sites
CineMaven Posted October 22, 2007 Share Posted October 22, 2007 Sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo, you're THAT big a fan of horror films, ey?? " I'd give up the Halloween schedule for a Kerr tribute; that's how much I loved her -- I wouldn't do it for many other actresses. " Link to post Share on other sites
Bronxgirl48 Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 Well, I like Eddie Cantor a lot. And a whole lotta other stuff. Link to post Share on other sites
CineMaven Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 HA!! LOL :-) Link to post Share on other sites
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