Bronxgirl48 Posted January 24, 2008 Share Posted January 24, 2008 I'm so glad I just found this on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMR9Lj33acY I can't get enough of that score. Message was edited by: Bronxgirl48 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronxgirl48 Posted January 24, 2008 Share Posted January 24, 2008 I love this scene: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnT2BxDnpRQ Message was edited by: Bronxgirl48 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissGoddess Posted January 24, 2008 Author Share Posted January 24, 2008 Thanks so much for that *Rio Grande* link! I bookmarked it. I love that scene, too! Can anyone tell me what is the significance of Duke's turning the glass over after he drinks to Kathleen's toast to the US Cavalry? I've been trying to find out what it means to turn your glass over like that but can't get an answer anywhere. Isn't it incredible what a beautiful voice Ken Curtis had? You wouldn't think this was "Festus"! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
movieman1957 Posted January 24, 2008 Share Posted January 24, 2008 "Cimarron Strip" has been running on Encore's Westerns channel on Saturdays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissGoddess Posted January 24, 2008 Author Share Posted January 24, 2008 I just received the book, [John Ford and the American West] (by Peter Cowie) and it's so gorgeous I don't know how I will be able to concentrate on my work! It's sitting on my desk and it's such a temptation. I think I'll have to hide it from my sight until I get home. This is a beautiful coffee-table book for any fan of the genre. It's filled not just with images of his films but of classical western paintings by the likes of Remington and Russell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissGoddess Posted January 24, 2008 Author Share Posted January 24, 2008 Nice little page on *Rio Grande* found on the official Maureen O'Hara website here: http://www.users.qwest.net/~aknot/riogrande.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FredCDobbs Posted January 24, 2008 Share Posted January 24, 2008 Hey, did you (or anyone else here) see "The Oklahoma Kid"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronxgirl48 Posted January 24, 2008 Share Posted January 24, 2008 Hey, Fred, I loved it! What a treat!! Cagney looks comfortable on a horse; he really was a country guy at heart IRL and I think had a ranch and raised horses so the part wasn't as much a stretch as one might imagine. In true 30's Warner's fashion he's still playing the bad good-guy and he does have a gun, and he's still looking for Snidley Whiplash, er, no, I mean Bogie as Whip McCord and they do have a final showdown, so it's familiar, only with western garb and sets. My favorite scene was Jimmy singing a Spanish lullaby to an infant and playing the guitar, and you can tell it's really him strumming. I wished there were more interludes like that, and with him and Rosemary Lane. I was so disappointed it wasn't in color; would've been great. I consider this a real western and not just a curio. Lively paced, flowed well. Loved their sideburns. Bogie looked good all in black and I liked his performance. "I don't want to play in your yard....." Jimmy is great in TRIBUTE TO A BAD MAN -- no Cagney mannerisms at all; he really inhabits Jeremy. Beautiful Rozsa theme; spectacular scenery; good Morrow and Irene. I enjoyed this very much. Can you recommend any other Cagney westerns? Message was edited by: Bronxgirl48 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissGoddess Posted January 24, 2008 Author Share Posted January 24, 2008 Bronxie---did you catch Tribute to a Bad Man which immediately followed The OK Kid? I managed to record it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronxgirl48 Posted January 24, 2008 Share Posted January 24, 2008 I wrote BAD MAN comments in my reply to Frank about THE OKLAHOMA KID but it seems to have disappeared. So I'll repeat: Cagney was GREAT as Jeremy! None of his familiar mannerisms, he really inhabited that part. Wonderful as a love story; nice Hollywood debut for Irene; I like that she doesn't overplay. Beautiful Rozsa score too; and Vic Morrow was terrific as always. Gorgeous scenery, loved the spread. I really enjoyed this one. Message was edited by: Bronxgirl48 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronxgirl48 Posted January 24, 2008 Share Posted January 24, 2008 movieman, look what I just found! I love Stuart's moves on that horse. And what a GREAT opening shot for a t.v. show! My Whitman crush is intensifying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronxgirl48 Posted January 24, 2008 Share Posted January 24, 2008 Love Ken's voice. And Victor -- "Sing it, blast ya!" I too wonder about that overturned glass. I love all their expressions as they're listening to the music, especially J. Carrol Naish's. It of course would have the most significance for him really. Message was edited by: Bronxgirl48 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronxgirl48 Posted January 24, 2008 Share Posted January 24, 2008 Miss G, might there be a photo of Stuart Whitman in your great gallery of pictures? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissGoddess Posted January 24, 2008 Author Share Posted January 24, 2008 I'll certainly look for a picture of Mr. W for you. One of his first screen roles was in my dearly beloved's Ten North Frederick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissGoddess Posted January 24, 2008 Author Share Posted January 24, 2008 *Stuart Whitman* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
movieman1957 Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 >My Whitman crush is intensifying. Happy Hunting. The only other Cagney western is "Run For Cover." It's also a mid-50's tale. Similar style to "Tribute For A Bad Man." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronxgirl48 Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU FOR WHITMAN!!! Beautiful!!! I saw 10 NORTH FREDERICK a long time ago. Coop looked damned good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronxgirl48 Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 Thanks! Maybe the Western Channel will show RUN FOR COVER. Now I want to see everything that Whitman ever did. I think I saw THE MARK decades ago, but don't really remember it. Strong subject matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissGoddess Posted January 25, 2008 Author Share Posted January 25, 2008 I was curious about what his lineage is---he looks "black Irish" so I looked up his bio on Imdb.com. It didn't have much but I'll copy it here: "American leading man in generally rugged roles. The son of a realtor, he graduated from high school in Los Angeles and spent three post-war years with the Army Corps of Engineers. In the army he won 32 fights as a light-heavyweight boxer. Upon his discharge from service, he attended Los Angeles City College, where his interest in acting emerged. He studied at the Los Angeles Academy of Dramatic Art and with Michael Chekhov and Ben Bard. He toured the U.S. in a stage company of "Here Comes Mr. Jordan" and began to get small roles in television and film. Eventually his athleticism, his handsome features, and his talent for portraying either tough or vulnerable characters led him to a level of stardom. He earned an Academy Award nomination for his leading role of a child molester in The Mark (1961), and starred in the television series "Cimarron Strip" (1967). A shrewd investor, he amassed a substantial fortune while continuing his career even after its peak in the mid-Sixties." Imdb.com also says he was 6 feet tall. I thought he was short. He looks so short next to John Wayne. If he really is 6 feet tall (and rich) I may have to fight you for him. Naaaah, on second thought, you can have him and I'll take "the big ugly one", as Nehemiah Persoff so delicately put it. He's still hanging around, Bronxie, so you go git him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FredCDobbs Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 Cagney is in the old west in ?Frisco Kid?, 1935, then he moves to San Francisco to open a saloon. Bogart was briefly in ?Virginia City? with Errol Flynn in 1940. http://www.imdb.com/gallery/mptv/1083/Mptv/1083/3806-0104.jpg.html?path=gallery&path_key=0033226 But I don?t know of any other Western with Cagney and Bogart together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronxgirl48 Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 Ah, thanks for delving into him (so to speak)! He's from California? I thought he was a Southern boy -- he always had that accent. Wasn't he from Virginia like Randolph Scott? He DOES look shorter next to Duke. I'm obsessed with that stirring score from THE COMANCHEROS. I love it to death. I'm playing that trailer over and over, to hear it (and look at Stuart kissing Ina) Good thinking on Wayne's part not to immediately kick Nehemiah in the butt for that insult. He knew if he did, he'd be permanently hangin' from that scaffold. Stuart is about 80 now and well fixed. I'll fly out next week. Don't tell Duane. Message was edited by: Bronxgirl48 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronxgirl48 Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 Wow -- I didn't know Cagney was in a second western (of sorts) Bogie with a mustache? Doesn't look too flattering, lol. Thanks so much for that info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissGoddess Posted January 25, 2008 Author Share Posted January 25, 2008 You're right about the soundtrack for *The Comancheros* - it's one of the best in all westerns. It's on cd: http://www.screenarchives.com/display_results.cfm (Your secret is safe with me. Give Stuey a hug from me and Duke) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissGoddess Posted January 25, 2008 Author Share Posted January 25, 2008 I forgot about this one, he's in MURDER, INC. and it's on dvd: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronxgirl48 Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 Miss G, I cannot express to you my thanks for that magnificent cd link. I clicked on the title, and have been in heaven for the past hour or so listening to it... And then I clicked in TRIBUTE TO A BAD MAN, with that beautiful main theme. I'll get them both. And if THAT weren't enough, you've posted another exquisite photo of Stuart. I bow down to you.. Stu, baby, get ready for the hugs from me, Miss Goddess, and Duke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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