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1 hour ago, mr6666 said:

:wacko:

300 of 680 people detained in Mississippi ICE raids released: Report

.......Just less than half of those detained in raids on seven food processing plants in Bay Springs, Carthage, Canton, Morton, Pelahatchie and Sebastapol were released from custody Wednesday evening, ICE spokesperson Bryan Cox told the Mississippi Clarion-Ledger Thursday.

Cox said Wednesday afternoon that while everyone detained would be processed, “not everyone is going to be [permanently] detained,” according to the newspaper.

The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) of Mississippi called the raids, the biggest single-state immigration enforcement operation in history, “unnecessary and cruel.”..........

https://thehill.com/latino/456736-300-of-680-people-detained-in-mississippi-ice-raids-released-report

and the democrats bear equal responsibility for this mess for utterly refusing to cooperate with trump since he became president.

isn't that putting politics ahead of people?

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There must be  over 100 posts here by several of us who have tried to explain this to you.  You must be even more dense than we had thought.  You cannot deal with Trump  because Trump is NOT ON THE.LEVEL.  He wals away from negotiated deals as soon as he experiences the slightest pushback.  Nobody wants to get burned again by the Orange Spineless Blob!!!

 

Trump bears the blame!

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3 hours ago, Arturo said:

There must be  over 100 posts here by several of us who have tried to explain this to you.  You must be even more dense than we had thought.  You cannot deal with Trump  because Trump is NOT ON THE.LEVEL.  He wals away from negotiated deals as soon as he experiences the slightest pushback.  Nobody wants to get burned again by the Orange Spineless Blob!!!

 

Trump bears the blame!

lets hope all the afflicted can hold out until January 2021 for possible relief.

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7 hours ago, mr6666 said:

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300 of 680 people detained in Mississippi ICE raids released: Report

.......Just less than half of those detained in raids on seven food processing plants in Bay Springs, Carthage, Canton, Morton, Pelahatchie and Sebastapol were released from custody Wednesday evening, ICE spokesperson Bryan Cox told the Mississippi Clarion-Ledger Thursday.

Cox said Wednesday afternoon that while everyone detained would be processed, “not everyone is going to be [permanently] detained,” according to the newspaper.

The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) of Mississippi called the raids, the biggest single-state immigration enforcement operation in history, “unnecessary and cruel.”..........

https://thehill.com/latino/456736-300-of-680-people-detained-in-mississippi-ice-raids-released-report

Hundreds of children have been left without parents-- stranded at school or waiting at home alone. The Hispanic Community as well as many kind mississippians have stepped in to help these children. Whereas Trump's federal government has done nothing.

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6 hours ago, Princess of Tap said:

Hundreds of children have been left without parents-- stranded at school or waiting at home alone. The Hispanic Community as well as many kind mississippians have stepped in to help these children. Whereas Trump's federal government has done nothing.

This is just like the Trump policy of yanking babies from their mothers’ arms.  Maximum pain and suffering with no plan on how to reunite these families.  This evil Administration needs to be held accountable for crimes against humanity.

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10 hours ago, NipkowDisc said:

lets hope all the afflicted can hold out until January 2021 for possible relief.

:lol:

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10 hours ago, NipkowDisc said:

lets hope all the afflicted can hold out until January 2021 for possible relief.

:lol:

Well well they’re not gonna get any from Donald Trump, Mitch McConnell or the GOP Senate.  These worthless beings are beholden to their racist white supremacist base and the NRA.

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On 7/19/2019 at 7:53 AM, Sepiatone said:

Sure Cid.  The type of exploitation you mention goes on a lot too.  Nobody EVER said these guys do shabby work, but generally are WAY underpaid in most cases.  Pass and enforce laws that insist these guys get the same rate as anybody else does and they'll be hustling for jobs on the same level playing field  as the rest of us.  Plus, you can pay an illegal "under the table" for less an hour than a "whettoe"(white American,AKA "Gringo") and too, pocket any federal, state and **** that should have been deducted and sent to Uncle Sam with Sam and the illegal being none the wiser.  ;)

Sepiatone

Isn't it cute the way OTTO( for "auto-censor") "starred" out the two "S's" I used for "Social security"?  :rolleyes:

Sepiatone

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25 minutes ago, jamesjazzguitar said:

Prior raids have resulted in employers being charged;  e.g.  one got 18 months.

These employers are the criminals that these raids should be going after.      

That was not the focus; no employers detained or arrested.  That would be like saying Trump criminally employed undocumented workers , which in the scheme of things wouldn’t even make 18 with a Bullet of top Trump crimes.

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Hundreds Of Employees Were Arrested In An ICE Raid. The Bosses Went Home Without A Charge.

Unlike the immigrants detained in a massive sweep this week, their employers weren't criminally charged or arrested. It's unlikely they'll face prosecution.

While hundreds of suspected undocumented immigrants were arrested Wednesday in a series of workplace raids that split up families and left communities terrified, their employers went home as if it were any other business day.

Federal authorities haven’t said whether the employers of the 680 people detained in Mississippi in one of the largest worksite operations ever conducted by Immigration and Customs Enforcement will face criminal charges or even fines for hiring the workers, but the likelihood of their facing prosecution is slim.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/adolfoflores/ice-raids-employers-arrest-charges-immigrants-business

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6 minutes ago, Arturo said:

That was not the focus; no employers detained or arrested.  That would be like saying Trump criminally employed undocumented workers , which in the scheme of things wouldn’t even make 18 with a Bullet of top Trump crimes.

The employer (owner of the company),  isn't at these work sites.   It is my understanding that charges are pending against the employers.     Like I said,  passed raids resulted fines and \ or jail time for employers.

Clearly these employers knowingly hire illegal labor.

 

 

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5 minutes ago, LawrenceA said:

Hundreds Of Employees Were Arrested In An ICE Raid. The Bosses Went Home Without A Charge.

Unlike the immigrants detained in a massive sweep this week, their employers weren't criminally charged or arrested. It's unlikely they'll face prosecution.

While hundreds of suspected undocumented immigrants were arrested Wednesday in a series of workplace raids that split up families and left communities terrified, their employers went home as if it were any other business day.

Federal authorities haven’t said whether the employers of the 680 people detained in Mississippi in one of the largest worksite operations ever conducted by Immigration and Customs Enforcement will face criminal charges or even fines for hiring the workers, but the likelihood of their facing prosecution is slim.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/adolfoflores/ice-raids-employers-arrest-charges-immigrants-business

If employers are not charged that would be wrong.  Very wrong.

Trump said these raids should be a deterrent;  yea,  they should make employers think twice before hiring illegal labor.     For that to happen employers must be charged and do jail time!

 

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The raids on Hispanic workers at the Koch plant could be seen as retaliation for workers filing suit against the company for discrimination.
 
The workers had just gotten a $3.75 million settlement a year before
around the time the ICE investigation started.

ICE Arrests at Koch After Hispanic Workers Get Huge Settlement

 

https://shero.substack.com/p/ice-arrests-at-koch-after-huge-settlement?utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&utm_source=copy

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4 hours ago, jamesjazzguitar said:

If employers are not charged that would be wrong.  Very wrong.

Trump said these raids should be a deterrent;  yea,  they should make employers think twice before hiring illegal labor.     For that to happen employers must be charged and do jail time!

 

 
Documents: Plant owners "willfully" used ineligible workers at Mississippi chicken processing plants
 
 
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2 minutes ago, mr6666 said:
 
Documents: Plant owners "willfully" used ineligible workers at Mississippi chicken processing plants
 

Of course they did.   The Feds know this because of duplicate and\ or phony SSN numbers being used by illegal immigrant employees.      Both the employer and employees have committed multiple crimes.  

 

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12 minutes ago, Bogie56 said:
The Washington Post
The Post Most
 
 
 
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(Courtesy of Jorge Castro)
How a Trump construction crew has relied on immigrants without legal status
A little-known company owned by the president has continued to use undocumented workers for projects on his properties, according to past and current crew members.
By Josh Partlow and David Fahrenthold  Read more »

While arresting and deporting thousands of illegal immigrants working in the US, trump and his businesses benefit from taking advantage of these people.

This Washington Post exclusive reveals the hypocritical real immigration policy of trump.

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Mississippi employers in ICE raids unlikely to be prosecuted

" The law is around this, was was written is, employers aren't breaking the law by hiring undocumented workers. What happens is if they are found to be in violation of the law it's because they knowingly hired undocumented workers. It's a knowingly that's tough to prove for prosecutors. And so that takes more time and not only more time it makes it harder for them to prosecute.

So some people would say that the immigrants are the low hanging fruit whereas the employers are tougher to get and more often than not they don't really face any criminal charges, fines if anything. .......

I mean just that they are you know they're cheap, you don't have to pay them as much. But there's also the fact that they may be less inclined to complain or if their wages are being taken away, an undocumented worker is not going to feel as empowered as someone who has papers to go and file a complaint ......

the number of prosecutions against employers and they found that from April 28 to March 29 of 2019 only 11 individuals not companies were prosecuted for hiring undocumented workers.

At the same time during that period more than 120,000 undocumented immigrants were charged for illegal entry or illegal reentry. So that's pretty stark when you look at those numbers. .........

 

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/mississippi-employers-in-ice-raids-unlikely-to-be-prosecuted?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=pbsofficial&utm_campaign=newshour

 

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Trump administration issues rules to deny green cards for immigrants on food stamps

 

.......Immigrants make up a small percentage of those who get public benefits. In fact, many are ineligible for public benefits because of their immigration status.

But advocates worry the rules will scare immigrants into not asking for help. And they are concerned the rules give too broad an authority to decide whether someone is likely to need public assistance at any time, giving immigration officials the ability to deny legal status to more people..........

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/new-rules-can-deny-green-cards-for-immigrants-on-food-stamps

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On 8/9/2019 at 11:16 AM, jamesjazzguitar said:

If employers are not charged that would be wrong.  Very wrong.

Trump said these raids should be a deterrent;  yea,  they should make employers think twice before hiring illegal labor.     For that to happen employers must be charged and do jail time!

 

That jail time should then also include our Hypocrite-in-Chief.  But this issue would be hard-pressed to make the Top 20 reasons why trump should go to jail.

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Just now, Arturo said:

That jail time should then also include our Hypocrite-in-Chief.  But this issue would be hard-pressed to make the Top 20 reasons why trump should go to jail.

If Trump should do jail time,  all state,  county and city officials that passed Sanctuary City\State type policies should also be in jail.

Employers should be arrested and changed and those that continue to have violations should have their business closed down.

But be honest Arturo;  you really don't want that type of enforcement, right?   (since it would mean illegal immigrants lose their jobs).

 

 

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2 hours ago, jamesjazzguitar said:

If Trump should do jail time,  all state,  county and city officials that passed Sanctuary City\State type policies should also be in jail.

Employers should be arrested and changed and those that continue to have violations should have their business closed down.

But be honest Arturo;  you really don't want that type of enforcement, right?   (since it would mean illegal immigrants lose their jobs).

 

 

Just put all of them in jail then. :lol: That would make a great news story.

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On 8/12/2019 at 9:09 PM, Gershwin fan said:

Just put all of them in jail then. :lol: That would make a great news story.

I guess you haven't been watching the news.  We don't have jails anymore.  We have concentration camps!

 

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How U.S. citizens’ health could suffer under Trump’s new rule aimed at immigrants

"The Trump administration is scaling back public benefits for immigrants who are in the U.S. legally, but doing so may negatively affect the health and wellness of young American citizens, according to analysts.

On Monday, Ken Cuccinelli, acting director of the Citizenship and Immigration Services office, told reporters during a White House press briefing that this policy “encourages and ensures self-reliance and self-sufficiency” for those who want to settle permanently in the U.S.

Anyone who relies on one or more publicly funded social safety net benefits, such as Medicaid or food stamps, is known as a “public charge.” According to the rule, which is built off a 1996 law passed by Congress, if an immigrant applies for citizenship or a green card and is determined to be a public charge, that person could have their request rejected........

 

“Immigration officers will have the authority to punish immigrants for accessing services they are legally eligible for,” Noorani said to the PBS NewsHour. “The chilling effect will be much more widespread. It will undermine the health and well-being of families that include U.S. citizens.”

There are early signs that this is already happening...........

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/how-u-s-citizens-health-could-suffer-under-trumps-new-rule-aimed-at-immigrants?utm_source=TWITTER&utm_medium=social&utm_term=20190813&utm_content=2556832954&utm_campaign=Frontline&linkId=7

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How a deceased heiress is still influencing anti-immigration politics in the US

She was an heiress without a cause — an indifferent student, an unhappy young bride, a miscast socialite. Her most enduring passion was for birds.

But Cordelia Scaife May eventually found her life’s purpose: curbing what she perceived as the lethal threat of overpopulation by trying to shut America’s doors to immigrants.

She believed the US was “being invaded on all fronts” by foreigners, who “breed like hamsters” and exhaust natural resources.

She thought that the border with Mexico should be sealed and that abortions on demand would contain the swelling masses in developing countries.

An heiress to the Mellon banking and industrial fortune with a half-billion dollars at her disposal, Ms May helped create what would become the modern anti-immigrationmovement.

She funded the nation’s three largest restrictionist groups — the Federation for American Immigration Reform, NumbersUSA and the Centre for Immigration Studies — as well as dozens of smaller ones, including some that have promulgated white nationalist views

Fourteen years after May’s death, her money remains the lifeblood of the anti-immigration movement, through her Colcom Foundation.

It has poured $180 million (£148 million) into a network of groups that spent decades agitating for policies now pursued by current US president Donald Trump: militarising the border, capping legal immigration, prioritising skills over family ties for entry and reducing access to public benefits for migrants.

“She would have fit in very fine in the current White House,” said George Zeidenstein, whose mainstream population-control group Ms May supported before she shifted to anti-immigration advocacy.

“She would have found a sympathetic ear with the present occupant.”

The New York Times has unearthed the most complete record of her thinking through reading her unpublished writings which reveal her evolution into an ardent nativist.

Chatty, handwritten notes about luncheons and overseas trips gradually gave way over the years to darker exchanges with fringe figures who believed that black people were less intelligent than white people, Latino immigrants were criminals and white Americans were being displaced.

But Ms May disputed the notion that she was racist, writing in 1994: “Can we not put imaginary paper bags over the immigrants’ heads, see them as colourless consumers, and count only their deleterious numbers?”

Restrictionist groups she financed have blocked immigration reform bills in congress over the years.

Read more at:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/deceased-heiress-still-influencing-anti-164422717.html

 

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