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https://www.npr.org/2018/10/20/658988420/ice-appears-to-end-use-of-federal-prisons-for-immigrant-detainees

ICE Appears To End Use Of Federal Prisons For Immigrant Detainees

U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement has all but abandoned its use of federal prisons to house detainees.

In early June, the agency announced it was sending up to 1,600 immigrant detainees to five federal prisons in Texas, Oregon, California, Washington, and Arizona.

But now, a total of only three ICE detainees remain across the five prisons that once held hundreds of immigrants. Immigrant detainees left the federal prisons either because they were deported, transferred to civil detention facilities, or were granted bail

There are no ICE detainees at the federal prisons in Victorville, Calif., SeaTac in Washington state, La Tuna in Texas, or Phoenix, ICE spokeswoman Tanya Roman said in a statement Wednesday. The three ICE detainees that remain are inside the federal prison in Sheridan, Ore.

ICE's large-scale use of federal prisons to house its detainees was unprecedented and controversial. Many of the detainees sent to the prisons were seeking asylum. Yet, they were treated as criminals, according to multiple immigration attorneys who represented the detainees in several of the prisons, even though few — if any — of the detainees had been charged criminally or were serving a criminal sentence.

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Bolton Kept DHS in the Dark in His Push to Seal the Border Against the Migrant Caravan

Trump’s national security adviser iced out Homeland Security and the Pentagon as he ‘yelled fire in the crowded movie theater that is Trump’s mind,’ an official says.

 

... After rejecting a proposal by the Department of Homeland Security to enlist the UN Refugee Agency (UNHCR) to set up migrant camps in Mexico, Bolton shared his thoughts directly with a like-minded Donald Trump, cutting out Homeland Security Chief Kirstjen Nielsen and White House Chief of Staff John Kelly, ...

DHS Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen, an ally of Kelly’s, last week proposed asking UNHCR to set up camps inside Mexico, and to enlist Mexico’s  help in convincing migrants to go to those camps, but Bolton thought that plan was unworkable, two of the officials said.

He then went dark on his discussions with the president, which frustrated those well versed on border issues who wanted to ensure the administration didn’t repeat its botched rollout last year of Trump’s “travel ban.”...

Bolton’s secretive, go-it-alone approach to border policy is markedly different from how his predecessor, retired Lt. Gen. HR McMaster, handled policy discussions. One of the officials said that McMaster used to hold phone calls on Tuesdays and Fridays with most of the cabinet secretaries on the line, so that they could debate things .....

https://www.thedailybeast.com/bolton-kept-dhs-in-the-dark-in-his-push-to-seal-the-border-against-the-migrant-caravan

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https://www.rt.com/op-ed/442485-migrants-poverty-rich-zizek/

Slavoj Žižek: Until the rich world thinks 'one world,' migration will intensify

The "rich" world urgently needs to address the reasons behind mass migration, rather than its symptoms. And understand we live in one world.

Migration is, once again, headline news. Columns of migrants from Honduras are approaching the US border through Mexico; African migrants broke through barriers and entered the small Spanish exclave on the northern tip of Africa; Middle East migrants are trying to enter Croatia.

Although the numbers are comparatively small, they do signal a basic geopolitical fact.

In his World Interior of Capital, the German philosopher Peter Sloterdijk demonstrates how, thanks to globalization, the capitalist system came to determine all conditions of life.

The first sign of this development was the Crystal Palace in London, the site of the first world exhibition in 1851. Its structure rendered palpable the exclusivity of globalization as the construction and expansion of a world interior whose boundaries are invisible, yet virtually insurmountable from without, and which is now inhabited the by one and a half billion winners of globalization.

However, three times this number are left standing outside the door. Consequently, "the world interior of capital is not an agora or a trade fair beneath the open sky, but rather a hothouse that has drawn inwards everything that was once on the outside."

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The geopolitics of globalism has caused the undoing of order. Individual nations no longer develop and evolve in their natural ways and paces. That's a result of globalist interference.

Neoliberalism is a gigantic failure. The world now has to correct itself - and it's not gonna be easy.

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3 minutes ago, darkblue said:

The geopolitics of globalism has caused the undoing of order. Individual nations no longer develop and evolve in their natural ways and paces. That's a result of globalist interference.

Neoliberalism is a gigantic failure. The world now has to correct itself - and it's not gonna be easy.

Yeah, I agree. US interference causes mass migration. This is most noticeable in Libya and Central America. 

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3 hours ago, Gershwin fan said:

Yeah, I agree. US interference causes mass migration. This is most noticeable in Libya and Central America. 

Yes,  in many Central American countries the US government provided funds and training to paramilitary forces.   Of course the overall intent was to fight drugs.   These forces were designed to help protect innocent citizens but due to corruption,  low pay and the basic nature of paramilitary forces (e.g. unnecessary use of force).   Today,  many citizens fear both the drug gangs and the government forces designed to combat the gangs.  

In this way some of these migrants fall under Powell's 'if you break it you have to fix it'.    Like I said I would be willing for the USA to offer refuges to these migrants in exchange for illegal immigrants self-deporting.  For each illegal immigrant that shows up at the border to self-deport,  we allow in a migrant.

 

 

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14 minutes ago, jamesjazzguitar said:

Yes,  in many Central American countries the US government provided funds and training to paramilitary forces.   Of course the overall intent was to fight drugs.   These forces were designed to help protect innocent citizens

LOL. No, the intent was to destabilize the region so the US can gain control of it and exploit the region for its own purpose. This goes all the way back even before Reagan with the murders of Allende and Omar Torrijos. The US doesn't just do things like this to be nice. It's about control in the region. If the US quit trying to destabilize countries (not just in Central America but Libya and Mideast nations too) there wouldn't be refugee crises like we see today. Also economic exploitation by first world corporations certainly doesn't help matters. 

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Fact Check: Seven misleading statements from Trump's border speech

In a sharply worded speech Thursday, the president announced two new immigration policies that are expected to be met with lawsuits in federal court.

Statement 1: "If they want to throw rocks at our military, our military fights back. We're going to consider — and I told them, consider it a rifle," said Trump.

Fact: Pentagon spokesman Lt. Col. Jamie Davis said, "We will not discuss hypothetical situations or specific measures within our rules on the use of force, but our forces are trained professionals who always have the inherent right of self-defense."

Those rules state: "Deadly force is justified only when there is a reasonable belief that the subject of such force poses imminent threat of death or serious bodily harm to a person."

Statement 2: Trump also vowed to block asylum seekers from claiming asylum if they are caught crossing the border outside of legal ports of entry.

Fact: This proposal, expected to be codified in an executive action next week, is likely to face legal challenges in federal court. Under current law, immigrants are allowed to make a claim for asylum anywhere in the U.S., no matter how they entered.

And the Trump administration would be in violation of international asylum law as well,..........

 

see more:  https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/trump-plans-block-migrants-claiming-asylum-between-legal-ports-entry-n930056?cid=sm_npd_nn_tw_ma

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https://jacobinmag.com/2018/11/migrant-caravan-troop-deployment-veteran-statement

Central American Migrants Are Not Your Enemy

Donald Trump is sending thousands of troops to the southern border to confront the migrant caravan. Here, in a joint statement, two antiwar veterans call on US soldiers to defy their commander in chief's deployment order.

 

To All Active Duty Soldiers:

Your commander in chief is lying to you. You should refuse his orders to deploy to the southern US border should you be called to do so.

Despite what Trump and his administration are saying, the migrants moving north towards the US are not a threat. These small numbers of people are escaping intense violence. In fact, much of the reason these men and women — with families just like yours and ours — are fleeing their homes is because of the US’s meddling in their countries. Look no further than Honduras, where the Obama administration supported the overthrow of a democratically elected president who was then replaced by a repressive leader.

These extremely poor and vulnerable people are desperate for peace. Who among us would walk a thousand miles with only the clothes on our back without great cause? The odds are good that your parents, grandparents, great-grandparents, etc. lived similar experiences. Your family members came to the US to seek a better life. Some fled violence. Consider this as you are asked to confront these unarmed men, women, and children from Central America. To do so would be the ultimate hypocrisy.

The US is the richest country in the world, in part because it has exploited countries in Latin America for decades. If you treat people from these countries like criminals, as Trump hopes you will, you will only contribute to the legacy of pillage and plunder beneath our southern border. We need to confront this history together. Above all else, we cannot turn these people away at our door.

By every moral or ethical standard, it is your duty to refuse orders to “defend” the US from these migrants. History will look kindly upon you if you do. There are thousands, if not millions, of us who will support your decision to lay your weapons down.

Our only advice is to resist in groups. Organize with your fellow soldiers. Do not go this alone. It is much harder to punish the many than the few.

In solidarity,

Rory Fanning
Former US Army Ranger, War-Resister

Spenser Rapone
Former US Army Ranger and Infantry Officer, War-Resister

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On 10/30/2018 at 9:44 AM, Gershwin fan said:

Yeah, I agree. US interference causes mass migration. This is most noticeable in Libya and Central America. 

Had to overthrow a stable country (Libya).  

If  Gaddafi was so bad why did Nelson Mandela....

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Gaddafi said no to the globalist and had hell to pay!

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51 minutes ago, Gershwin fan said:

https://jacobinmag.com/2018/11/migrant-caravan-troop-deployment-veteran-statement

Central American Migrants Are Not Your Enemy

Donald Trump is sending thousands of troops to the southern border to confront the migrant caravan. Here, in a joint statement, two antiwar veterans call on US soldiers to defy their commander in chief's deployment order.

 

To All Active Duty Soldiers:

Your commander in chief is lying to you. You should refuse his orders to deploy to the southern US border should you be called to do so.

Despite what Trump and his administration are saying, the migrants moving north towards the US are not a threat. These small numbers of people are escaping intense violence. In fact, much of the reason these men and women — with families just like yours and ours — are fleeing their homes is because of the US’s meddling in their countries. Look no further than Honduras, where the Obama administration supported the overthrow of a democratically elected president who was then replaced by a repressive leader.

These extremely poor and vulnerable people are desperate for peace. Who among us would walk a thousand miles with only the clothes on our back without great cause? The odds are good that your parents, grandparents, great-grandparents, etc. lived similar experiences. Your family members came to the US to seek a better life. Some fled violence. Consider this as you are asked to confront these unarmed men, women, and children from Central America. To do so would be the ultimate hypocrisy.

The US is the richest country in the world, in part because it has exploited countries in Latin America for decades. If you treat people from these countries like criminals, as Trump hopes you will, you will only contribute to the legacy of pillage and plunder beneath our southern border. We need to confront this history together. Above all else, we cannot turn these people away at our door.

By every moral or ethical standard, it is your duty to refuse orders to “defend” the US from these migrants. History will look kindly upon you if you do. There are thousands, if not millions, of us who will support your decision to lay your weapons down.

Our only advice is to resist in groups. Organize with your fellow soldiers. Do not go this alone. It is much harder to punish the many than the few.

In solidarity,

Rory Fanning
Former US Army Ranger, War-Resister

Spenser Rapone
Former US Army Ranger and Infantry Officer, War-Resister

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Look no further than Honduras, where the Obama administration supported the overthrow of a democratically elected president who was then replaced by a repressive leader.

 

Also the stable regimes in the Middle East i.e. Libya.  Bush caused death and misery in Iraq because of BS weapons of mass destruction and his daddy got "threaten".

The attempt to overthrow Assad in Syria!

What has came from all this?

ISIS.jpg

 

Thank God Egypt dodged a bullet in an attempt to do the same there.

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CREW and RAICES Sue DHS Over Continued Family Separation Failures

Washington — The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) and Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen have continued to violate the Federal Records Act (FRA) by failing to create records linking immigrant families and failing to establish an adequate agency-wide records management program, according to an amended lawsuit filed today by Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (CREW) and Refugee and Immigrant Center for Education and Legal Services (RAICES).......

https://www.citizensforethics.org/press-release/raices-dhs-lawsuit-zero-tolerance-policy/

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Pediatricians Voice Concerns About Care Following Two 'Needless' Migrant Deaths

...........Both children came from Guatemala with their fathers and crossed the border illegally. Their deaths have raised new questions about the quality of medical care at Border Patrol processing centers.

But pediatricians on the border say they have been raising similar concerns for years....

https://www.npr.org/2018/12/28/680794189/after-two-needless-migrant-deaths-pediatricians-voice-concerns-about-care?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

 

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Florida & Texas migrant teen detention centers don’t screen staff for abuse or neglect

"......The staff isn’t being screened for child abuse and neglect at the Miami-based emergency detention center because Florida law bans any outside employer from reviewing information in its child welfare system. Until recently at another facility holding migrant teens in Tornillo, Texas, staff hadn’t even undergone FBI fingerprint checks, let alone child welfare screenings, a government report found.....

The two facilities can operate unlicensed and without required checks because they are located on federal property and thus don’t have to comply with state child welfare laws. Tornillo is on Customs and Border Protection land along the U.S.-Mexico border, and Homestead is on a former Labor Department Jobs Corps site. ........

https://www.wmnf.org/florida-texas-migrant-teen-detention-centers-dont-screen-staff/

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On 11/12/2018 at 12:17 PM, hamradio said:

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Look no further than Honduras, where the Obama administration supported the overthrow of a democratically elected president who was then replaced by a repressive leader.

 

Also the stable regimes in the Middle East i.e. Libya.  Bush caused death and misery in Iraq because of BS weapons of mass destruction and his daddy got "threaten".

The attempt to overthrow Assad in Syria!

What has came from all this?

ISIS.jpg

 

Thank God Egypt dodged a bullet in an attempt to do the same there.

Nixon, Henry Kissinger, Chile's democratically-elected Salvador Allende , Pinochet

* If you don't know what I'm talking about you can Google it.

 

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On 11/12/2018 at 12:17 PM, hamradio said:

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Look no further than Honduras, where the Obama administration supported the overthrow of a democratically elected president who was then replaced by a repressive leader.

 

Also the stable regimes in the Middle East i.e. Libya.  Bush caused death and misery in Iraq because of BS weapons of mass destruction and his daddy got "threaten".

The attempt to overthrow Assad in Syria!

What has came from all this?

ISIS.jpg

 

Thank God Egypt dodged a bullet in an attempt to do the same there.

Then I would suggest that you Google the following:

Nicaragua, Somoza family, Sandinistas

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On 11/12/2018 at 12:17 PM, hamradio said:

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Look no further than Honduras, where the Obama administration supported the overthrow of a democratically elected president who was then replaced by a repressive leader.

 

Also the stable regimes in the Middle East i.e. Libya.  Bush caused death and misery in Iraq because of BS weapons of mass destruction and his daddy got "threaten".

The attempt to overthrow Assad in Syria!

What has came from all this?

ISIS.jpg

 

Thank God Egypt dodged a bullet in an attempt to do the same there.

 Then, this is my personal favorite because I watched it a lot on Walter Cronkite's CBS News.

Dominican Republic-- US. Backed dictator Trujillo assassinated and replaced by a democratic government which was overthrown by Lyndon Johnson's military invasion.

 

I won't go back to Teddy Roosevelt or Vietnam, but I think you get my drift. LOL

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Ashton Pittman @ashtonpittman

 

Border agents took antibiotics away from her sick baby & detained them in a freezing cell called an icebox.

When she asked for help, agents called her an “invader” who “wasn’t in a position to be asking for anything.”

After 5 days, the baby had pneumonia.

http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2018/12/migrant-baby-got-pneumonia-after-days-in-freezing-cell.html?fbclid=IwAR2x0dtTgEqh_IQQWyvke_5d007I8hDvg-Mdt_5c0Uvf61NPoIEV-mh5xBM

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Donald J. TrumpVerified account @realDonaldTrump

 

Any deaths of children or others at the Border are strictly the fault of the Democrats

and their pathetic immigration policies that allow people to make the long trek thinking they can enter our country illegally. They can’t.

If we had a Wall, they wouldn’t even try! .....

10:30 AM - 29 Dec 2018

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Rep. Pramila JayapalVerified account @RepJayapal 20h20 hours ago

 
 

Let's be clear: the Trump administration's immigration policies are about two things:

Profit and politics.

Politics because they are manufacturing a fake border crisis.

Profit because private prison companies are making millions locking people up in substandard conditions.

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Investigation Finds at Least $800M in Taxpayer Money Went to Funding For-Profit Immigrant Prisons in 2018

see: https://www.commondreams.org/news/2018/12/27/investigation-finds-least-800m-taxpayer-money-went-funding-profit-immigrant-prisons?utm_campaign=shareaholic&utm_medium=facebook&utm_source=socialnetwork&fbclid=IwAR07VMcch54ksDmJNKj3j51ylThvH11L7HHEobaoZtB4Wlx95sM_0FL2S2U

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6 hours ago, Princess of Tap said:

 

 

Nixon, Henry Kissinger, Chile's democratically-elected Salvador Allende , Pinochet

* If you don't know what I'm talking about you can Google it.

 

I witness that on the news.  It's in my Illustrated World Encyclopedia 1973 Book of The Year.

 

This movie's plot revolved around their missing son whom learned at the end was executed.

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