Moviebuffer12 Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 Who do you think the most overated person in film is? I say Marlon Brando or Alfred Hitchcock. What do you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsclassic Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 Tom Cruise .. Message was edited by: dsclassic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChipHeartsMovies Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 Good topic for discussion. For actors, I have to agree Brando is at the head of my list. As annoying as Tom Cruise is --- and he IS --- Cruise turned in genuinely good performances in several good movies. Agreed, his public image these days is just ridiculous. On the other hand, other than "The Godfather," I think most of Brando's roles were way over-praised. For directors, no way Hitchcock. He may have had a misstep here and there, but "North by Northwest," "Rope," et. al., guarantee his legacy. My vote here: Orson Welles. Sorry, but I don't think "Citizen Kane" is THAT good, and the rest of his canon --- meh. I don't think those Ambersons were that magnificent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CineMaven Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 People love him, but I have never ever been motivated to see a film becuz he's in it, and that'd be Johnny Depp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsclassic Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 I will agree Orson Welles is overrated as a director , as well as Paul Verhooven, Stuart Gordon & Ridley Scott (at least IMO, I only liked Alien from RS) Ok, these are sci fi and horror directors,but thats my main thrust Roman Polanski is another one, although Chinatown is excellent - I still have better movies that it, but for the 1970s it will stand out. Mario Bava who had a few big hits, but a lot of his work in horror wasn't all that having seen several of his movie I will still stick with Cruise as an actor, maybe Marlon Brando, maybe John Agar or Clint Eastwood ?? Message was edited by: dsclassic Message was edited by: dsclassic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Film_Fatale Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 I don't find Orson Wells or Marlon Brando overrated (maybe acquired tastes if that) but David O. Selznick definitely strikes me as overrated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 for actors: Marlon Brando or Johnny Depp..... both play the same character over and over for actress: Julia Roberts.... same flaw for director: Steven Spielberg.... pretentious to a fault Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickeeteeze Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 Wow.......Brando is on everyone's list. Not mine. His career was shaky, but his influence was immense. Brando was clearly ADHD.....and was bored with acting by the late 50's. With him, like Welles, it's about "What could have been". Most overrated? Hmmm. For me thats tough, because in art, I tend to focus on the good. Not so easy in real life. Oliver Stone? Two great 80's flicks and a lot of bombast since? I may get hammered for this, but I wonder how many stinkers were helmed by that "Master of Proficiency", Micheal Curtiz? Not a big Sinatra fan, or Lawrence Harvey, for that matter. Is there an award for "Best Picture Featuring Actors That Bore Me?" I'd have a much easier time with underrated. I'll start with Muni, finish with S Penn, and have a lot in between. This Mark Ruffalo seems to be on to something. King Vidor. No reason, but I've always liked Lilli Taylor (the chorus of owls is deafening....WHOOOO?). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moviebuffer12 Posted January 6, 2008 Author Share Posted January 6, 2008 I agree that Orson Welles is overrated becuase I never thought his films including Citizen Kane were that good. David O Selznick is definentily not overrated. If he made Gone With the Wind, there limit to how high he can be rated. Johnny Depp seems rated pretty well. Alfred Hitchcock is overated because his films took forever for action to start. I remember falling asleep while watching Rear Window as a kid and Frenzy as an adult. People think he is one of the greatest directors of all time, but I think he is slow and repetitive. I used to think that Steve Martin was overated. Then it hit me one day. He isn't rated that highly these days Message was edited by: Moviebuffer12 Message was edited by: Moviebuffer12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Film_Fatale Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 Johnny Depp plays the same character over and over? Absolutely ludicrous. His range is quite good, look at the way he went from the Jack Sparrow character to the macabre Sweeney Todd. His acting was just exactly what those movies needed, respectively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visualfeast Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 I'll bring out my old saw, again...Elvis Presley. A real second rate performer who was catapulted to unreasonable celebrity because he was there between the romantic balads of the fifties and the Beatles and Rolling Stones phenominon of the sixties. His three-note range and grotesque gyrations are a joke. Evidence of just how desperate the teenie-boppers were for something new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsclassic Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 I think the majority of members here will whole heartedly disagree that Hitchcock was overrated...he is the master of suspense , he builds up characters stories before things happen Now I dont like every single Hitchcock movie, but the ones I do like, I really really like, and the ones I don't like, I am simply not into the story or characters...I havent truly disliked/jhated a Hitchcock movie Johnny Depp is the cream of the crop to me, again I don't like all the films he does, but he is an incredible performer in all his roles... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 Depp plays the same weirdo character no matter what he plays. He changes his voice (big deal) but it's the same thing over and over... has he ever plays a normal everyday character? All he can plays is WEIRD... and you can keep your snotty LUDICROUS comments to youself..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scsu1975 Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 "and you can keep your snotty LUDICROUS comments to youself....." Dredmn: You can make your point without insulting others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 read the thread.... I didn't start the name calling..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joefilmone Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 Brando was too influential to be overrated- he wasted his talent and could have made better films. Depp does not play the same character over and over- he could have made a fortune on his face alone but he likes to take chances in quirky not always successful character turns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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scsu1975 Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 I did read the thread. No one called you a name. One poster disagreed with your opinion. As a writer, you should be used to criticism. I am. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 the comment was that my opinion was LUDICROUS.... my response was to that comment. Far too many people on message boards are unable to disagree without name calling. He/she could have stated his/her opinion without saying my opinion was LUDICROUS.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scsu1975 Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 So rise above it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 I did oh and I would add Rod Steiger to the list of "overrated." Of course this is all just personal taste and opinion, but all he ever seems to do is bellow and rant.... did anyone catch THE BIG KNIFE? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickeeteeze Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 Visualfeast said 'll bring out my old saw, again...Elvis Presley." Yeah....the movies,anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennethlawson Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 I find that I must at least in some respects defend Elvis. True he was not Oscar material, to say he was just a pretty face is oversimplifying his role in music and movies, I've seen several of his movies and they're not great literary works of art,however , I can think may worst ways to spend a couple of hours in front of a tv. As I said, in a earlier post theres always the what if, factor, what if he'd had the gumption to get rid of the Col. and start a company of his own, Overall, I liked Elvis, If I had to say, I liked the young hungry Elvis, of the early 50's Elvis, in later years was heavy and just riding on his fame, if he'd really worked with his own production company and kept the music changing he wouldn't have needed comeback specials,,, But, I can't just outright dismiss him completly... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joefilmone Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 Elvis never really had a chance to make good movies- the Colonel would only allow him to make those dreadful musicals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsclassic Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 I bet Depp plays Elvis in some movie someday I bet having a chance to meet and talk to Johnny Depp about his characters that he played and movies that he liked that inspired him and if he watches TCM in his spare time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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