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1 hour ago, limey said:

I think that there may be a generational aspect at play with this - when I was a nipper, TV stations used to show a couple of movies a day as part of their regular schedule & these were nearly always older than I was. Later on, as schedules became 24/7, the overnight was oft populated with old b/w flicks of yore - that's really where my taste for 'classic' was nurtured.

I agree with this. Old films were a big part of early TV. Maybe if you don't imprint kids early with B&W images it's not going to take like it did with us. Maybe a conscious effort to put intergrate that type on content in childrens shows, not necessarily old stuff, but someone along the lines of say Tim Burton tends to drift in that direction. I'm sure there are others. A few Our Gang short clips, not the full reels (attention spans are much shorter nowadays), interspersed with other stuff, like part of a full spectrum of children entertainment.

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3 hours ago, limey said:

I think that there may be a generational aspect at play with this - when I was a nipper, TV stations used to show a couple of movies a day as part of their regular schedule & these were nearly always older than I was. Later on, as schedules became 24/7, the overnight was oft populated with old b/w flicks of yore - that's really where my taste for 'classic' was nurtured.

I agree;   what I'm calling 'regular' T.V. networks (e.g. national ones like CBS, NBC,  or local ones) would show some 'old movies',  typically in the late evening or early morning hours,  each day.     I was able to tape (yea TAPE!),  many of these and had a collection of over 500 studio-era films (and since I didn't like taping commercials I would set the alarm to get up and tape them 'manually').    I was a computer programmer at a small company and I had very flexible hours.  

But how only a select number of stations show studio-era movies and these are mostly nostalgic stations like Get-TV (stations that also show mostly 50s - 60s TV shows).

 

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2 hours ago, cigarjoe said:

I agree with this. Old films were a big part of early TV. Maybe if you don't imprint kids early with B&W images it's not going to take like it did with us. Maybe a conscious effort to put intergrate that type on content in childrens shows, not necessarily old stuff, but someone along the lines of say Tim Burton tends to drift in that direction. I'm sure there are others. A few Our Gang short clips, not the full reels (attention spans are much shorter nowadays), interspersed with other stuff, like part of a full spectrum of children entertainment.

I was with you, right up until the part about attention spans - yes, these may be shorter today, but the very last thing we need to do is to pander further to that trend! Young minds need to be encouraged to explore the nuances & possibilities of presented ideas, rather than being served up pre-chewed, partially digested homogenized chunks. If folks can't make it through a 10 minute Our Gang reel, then all hope is lost...

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On 3/4/2018 at 1:22 AM, limey said:

This! That permagrin is quite disturbing, especially if paired with more somber material like The Sorrow and the Pity, or trying to explain why films depicting The Great Depression are a monument to Capitalism's outright failure (oops, that's Ben's job...).

"permagrin"?

Who coined that, as I've encountered this style of Moonie reaction to everything a few times in my life. It is very disconcerting. I had one such person smile continually at me [with a giant dental grin that looked like Conrad Veidt in "The Man Who Laughs" film] that was denying my request for a replacement of a defective dvd at some big giant conglomerate store, even though I had a receipt. I finally said to her "Why are you smiling?" I think she was an alien or a follower of Warren Jeffs. I finally had to ask for a manager with a normal facial position who also had no idea why she was smiling but asked her why she was refusing my valid refund. And she still kept smiling. Creepy!

 Not that I think this new male host is any way near that overly happy. He just seems a little more happy than most, but admittedly not a good look for introducing "The Sorrow and the Pity".

It's true, Robert Osborne had just the right amounts of humor, seriousness, and all other attributes that made for a great host. Too many people make the intros about showing off or being a know it all, but he always seemed really just interested in sharing a film with others. Not criticizing the new hosts though for anything as they seem acceptably okay.

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1 hour ago, limey said:

 If folks can't make it through a 10 minute Our Gang reel, then all hope is lost...

10 minutes, I was under the impression they were half hour shows, or maybe I'm thinking of the half hour TV program they may have had 3, 10 minute reels or 2 of them interspersed with commercials.

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14 minutes ago, cigarjoe said:

10 minutes, I was under the impression they were half hour shows, or maybe I'm thinking of the half hour TV program they may have had 3, 10 minute reels or 2 of them interspersed with commercials.

I think some were pretty short, but I'd need to check that in my records (on a different computer). I was concentrating more on the reel part. Either way, attention spans are only going to get smaller & smaller, unless folks again become accustomed to concentrating on something long enough for POTUS to announce his entire foreign policy doctrine via twitter... (yes, sorry that was a political joke)

28 minutes ago, Hibi said:

Isn't that why twitter was created? LOL.

LOL. I rest my case.

1 hour ago, CaveGirl said:

"permagrin"?

Who coined that, as I've encountered this style of Moonie reaction to everything a few times in my life. It is very disconcerting.

I use that expression,  but I don't think that I coined it - just seemed to fit. I don't really have a problem with Dave (even his earlier stints on quite non-classic stuff) - he presents well & effectively and seems a nice enough bloke. It's more that the grin tends to make me think that I'm about to get another rapid-fire infomercial on 1-800-DURAWOTSIT, the miracle gadget that will save you time & money, boost your love life & seal leaky gutters! But wait - there's more... :P

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"Permagrin"??? Isn't that some kind'a Falcon or somethin'???

(...sorry, couldn't resist...and yes limey ol' boy, couldn't agree more with you about Dave's "permagrin"...I too can't believe the guy doesn't have more of a repertoire of facial expressions than THAT one!)

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19 minutes ago, Dargo said:

"Permagrin"??? Isn't that some kind'a Falcon or somethin'???

(...sorry, couldn't resist...and yes limey ol' boy, couldn't agree more with you about Dave's "permagrin"...I too can't believe the guy doesn't have more of a repertoire of facial expressions than THAT one!)

LOL - now I've got the idea of Harrison Ford & Chewy scooting around the Empire in their Permagrin Falcon (repeatedly having to thump something or nick spare teeth from Vader's locker in order to keep the Light Grin Jump drive going)...

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4 hours ago, limey said:

I was with you, right up until the part about attention spans - yes, these may be shorter today, but the very last thing we need to do is to pander further to that trend! Young minds need to be encouraged to explore the nuances & possibilities of presented ideas, rather than being served up pre-chewed, partially digested homogenized chunks. If folks can't make it through a 10 minute Our Gang reel, then all hope is lost...

I'll bet if they had on tape the time Alfalfa [according to Robert Blake] urinated all over the studio kleg lights, lots of people would have at least ten minutes to watch the aftermath, when the odors started emanating all over the studio causing it to be closed down.

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3 minutes ago, CaveGirl said:

I'll bet if they had on tape the time Alfalfa [according to Robert Blake] urinated all over the studio kleg lights, lots of people would have at least ten minutes to watch the aftermath, when the odors started emanating all over the studio causing it to be closed down.

Yikes! Those things are heavy duty wattage - taking a leak on one of 'em may risk a whole lot more unintended aftermath than just nasty pongs... :o

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2 hours ago, CaveGirl said:

I'll bet if they had on tape the time Alfalfa [according to Robert Blake] urinated all over the studio kleg lights, lots of people would have at least ten minutes to watch the aftermath, when the odors started emanating all over the studio causing it to be closed down.

Say, wasn't it right after this incident when Alfalfa was sent off to school in some little upstate New York town?...

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(...and where of course he was still causin' trouble even during his high school prom?!)

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I think I may be one of the few that feels this way...but I find Alicia Malone to NOT be best suited for a role as a TCM host. My wife and I both simply cringe whenever she opens her mouth. I find her particular Australian accent too annoying to bare and her on-camera presence very wooden. I know all the hosts are reading from a tele-prompter, but sadly she does so quite obviously. She's got no on-camera personality. I know that's something a person can perfect over time. But the nasally accent is killing us and I fear won't go away! 

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On 3/7/2018 at 11:13 AM, Hibi said:

Saw Alicia last night. Dont like her accent (but she cant help it!) But she seems knowledgeable and camera ready. She'll be ok.

 

On 4/16/2018 at 4:07 PM, Hibi said:

I admit her accent takes a lot of getting used to (and I'm not sure I ever will get used to it) but she seems knowledgeable and has some gravitas (as in knowing what she's talking about). As opposed to T.V. whom I always felt was just reading from a teleprompter........

 

On 4/18/2018 at 2:07 PM, Hibi said:

Well, I like his smile!

 

1 hour ago, daddio 6-5000 said:

I think I may be one of the few that feels this way...but I find Alicia Malone to NOT be best suited for a role as a TCM host. My wife and I both simply cringe whenever she opens her mouth. I find her particular Australian accent too annoying to bare and her on-camera presence very wooden. I know all the hosts are reading from a tele-prompter, but sadly she does so quite obviously. She's got no on-camera personality. I know that's something a person can perfect over time. But the nasally accent is killing us and I fear won't go away! 

Hmmmmm.....
Well unlike many, I really haven't found anything that annoying in any of the hosts, and guest hosts over the years....
Unlike some, I enjoyed Drew Barrymore with Robert.
I even found wooden Matthew Broderick sort of entertaining to look at, for a couple of intros anyway.
I found nothing repulsive with Tiffany (quite the contrary), and grew to accept her as one of the gang, but then maybe that's just part of my generally accepting nature.
I never found Ben's voice to be so nasally that I couldn't clearly understand him, but then my hearing isn't as acute as it once was, so perhaps I am missing out on the truly annoying stuff that other people hear.

I thought Dave Karger was one of the most promising of all the fill-in hosts back when RO was sick.
The only time that he sorta annoyed me was when he allowed that dufus co-host lead him astray with all of his ungrounded purely subjective inferences during the Gay movie month. Dave kept grinning at and laughing along with everything said, as if he knew no better.... while I on the other hand was arguing with an inanimate TV screen.

I was bugged and still am that T.V. was dropped like she was. I thought that she was coming along quite well, and since she was one of the "family" of persons that I regularly invited into my home, I sorta naturally felt a little protective. But then TCM is a heartless beast beneath the facade, so it is what it is. I am glad to hear that she wasn't totally dumped and is still working behind the scenes.

I think Alicia Malone has a charming accent, but then it reminds me of an Aussie girlfriend I once had and she was quite charming. I like her eyes and her on-screen personality.
She was hosting a Lassie movie and while reading off the teleprompter made a little side comment that I am sure was all her own... regarding something she read and said about a little Cairn Scottish Terrier guarding his masters grave, she responded to herself (and us) with "cute." With that I was smitten, because I thought it was "cute" too, and she was cute for saying so.
One other thing about Alicia that makes me stare at her is that I've noticed that she talks from the left side of her mouth. Not being critical, just an observation. It makes me wonder if she is bothered with TMJ issues?

Anyway, I've already accepted Dave and Alicia, and I hope that TCM isn't callous enough to dump either of them too soon as I'll again think that shameful.

But my endorsement, or lack there of, really means nothing, because they have apparently already met with the very discriminating approval of our very own Hibi. As long as she stands with them, who dares to stand against them,... eh? ;):)

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21 minutes ago, Stephan55 said:

 

 

 

Hmmmmm.....
Well unlike many, I really haven't found anything that annoying in any of the hosts, and guest hosts over the years....
Unlike some, I enjoyed Drew Barrymore with Robert.
I even found wooden Matthew Broderick sort of entertaining to look at, for a couple of intros anyway.
I found nothing repulsive with Tiffany (quite the contrary), and grew to accept her as one of the gang, but then maybe that's just part of my generally accepting nature.
I never found Ben's voice to be so nasally that I couldn't clearly understand him, but then my hearing isn't as acute as it once was, so perhaps I am missing out on the truly annoying stuff that other people hear.

I thought Dave Karger was one of the most promising of all the fill-in hosts back when RO was sick.
The only time that he sorta annoyed me was when he allowed that dufus co-host lead him astray with all of his ungrounded purely subjective inferences during the Gay movie month. Dave kept grinning at and laughing along with everything said, as if he knew no better.... while I on the other hand was arguing with an inanimate TV screen.

I was bugged and still am that T.V. was dropped like she was. I thought that she was coming along quite well, and since she was one of the "family" of persons that I regularly invited into my home, I sorta naturally felt a little protective. But then TCM is a heartless beast beneath the facade, so it is what it is. I am glad to hear that she wasn't totally dumped and is still working behind the scenes.

I think Alicia Malone has a charming accent, but then it reminds me of an Aussie girlfriend I once had and she was quite charming. I like her eyes and her on-screen personality.
She was hosting a Lassie movie and while reading off the teleprompter made a little side comment that I am sure was all her own... regarding something she read and said about a little Cairn Scottish Terrier guarding his masters grave, she responded to herself (and us) with "cute." With that I was smitten, because I thought it was "cute" too, and she was cute for saying so.
One other thing about Alicia that makes me stare at her is that I've noticed that she talks from the left side of her mouth. Not being critical, just an observation. It makes me wonder if she is bothered with TMJ issues?

Anyway, I've already accepted Dave and Alicia, and I hope that TCM isn't callous enough to dump either of them too soon as I'll again think that shameful.

But my endorsement, or lack there of, really means nothing, because they have apparently already met with the very discriminating approval of our very own Hibi. As long as she stands with them, who dares to stand against them,... eh? ;):)

I agree about her neat accent!   Though never cared for Karger & his pc Ew reviews

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On ‎4‎/‎18‎/‎2018 at 6:52 PM, Dargo said:

Say, wasn't it right after this incident when Alfalfa was sent off to school in some little upstate New York town?...

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(...and where of course he was still causin' trouble even during his high school prom?!)

& was shot to death in 1959 at only age 32.

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On ‎4‎/‎18‎/‎2018 at 4:10 PM, CaveGirl said:

I'll bet if they had on tape the time Alfalfa [according to Robert Blake] urinated all over the studio kleg lights, lots of people would have at least ten minutes to watch the aftermath, when the odors started emanating all over the studio causing it to be closed down.

Yeah, Carl "Alfalfa" Switzer-(l927-59) was always in trouble & loved DOGs though & later earned $money$ by walking them & reportedly that's what caused his untimely death in '59, fighting with a guy over walking his dog & was shot to death in this guys' house, for yrs his son would charge kids to come & see the bullet hole in the wall.

His grave at "Hollywood Forever, cem" has dogs on it

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My husband & I wholeheartedly agree with Daddio regarding Alicia Malone.  We are having a hard time getting used to her and her accent as well.  We've heard many Aussie accents but hers just is so very different from most.  And we also agree about her nasally voice.  It is just too much and we do not like it at all.  She may be a very nice person.  However, we do not believe she is the right person to be hosting old movies on TCM.

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