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I have seen alot of the pre code films that were considered "porn" in it's day recently and with both versions of BABY FACE the only difference I saw (except for the subject) was the editing of the camera on Stanwyck moving up her legs to her face and showing the guy grabbing her around her chest to throw her on the bed. Fully clothed and with an attitude she was great in this movie!

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TCM has plenty of pre-Codes in its library. But when is the last time they played ARE YOU LISTENING?, IS MY FACE RED?, BAD COMPANY, JOURNAL OF A CRIME, THE FIREBIRD, BLONDIE JOHNSON, PHANTOM OF CRESTWOOD, THE MIND READER, THE FAMOUS FERGUSON CASE, THE SON-DAUGHTER, MAN WITH TWO FACES, et al???

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I don't think that TCM has ever shown BAD COMPANY. I have been a viewer since 1995, and I don;'t recall it ever being shown. Some of the other titles you menitoned haven't been shown in at least several years. I think THE SON-DAUGHTER was shown last year though. Have JOURNAL OF CRIME, THE FIREBIRD or THE MAN WITH TWO FACES ever been shown on TCM? I don't recall those titles ever being shown.

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It wasn't "Son-Daughter" that was shown last year as I have been waiting for years to see this movie on TCM again. They did show "Laughing Boy" so maybe that was the movie you had reference to. I have been waiting for a few other Ramon Novarro talkies as well, especially "Daybreak". TCM hasn't shown this movie in ages.

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pre-code Mata Hari, Mata Hair, even the scenes that are in the film, as we have seen it now, are pretty wild, check out the scene when Novarro puts out the candle and the look and action on Garbo;s part, it is very weird and almost scarey

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Outcry over TCM's few-and-far-between showings of pre-codes is also being voiced on another thread. Some of us are suggesting writing letters to TCM in addition to using the "suggest a movie" function on the website. Anyone willing to help?

 

The suggested mailing address for pro-pre-code lobbying is:

 

TCM

1050 Techwood Drive NW

Atlanta, GA 30318-5604

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I am on it as well. I may add that it would be great if they were not shown at 4 a.m. as well. I realize that during the day is inappropriate...but some of us do still do not have TEVO and my kids jam up our DVR with other items (and erase at will).

 

I love listening to R.O. introduce them and appreciate his expansive knowledge. Not at 4. in the morning. We need to see more of this genre. Not necessarily because we may see a booby or two...but I personally watch these in awe because of what I was told by my grandma of the then strict moral"ladylike" behavior and what bold acting by both sexes was really being documented. This is the history of film at its best. Movies were now talkies and Hollywod could have really "hypnotized" the audience with entertaining but an underlying moral movie. Now I know that the biz and the actors were uninhibited, already "over" the technology of sound and ready to let this art evolve faster. What a willingness to change at worp speed.

 

Let us see what has not been edited. What really was. I do not get to experience complete austerity very often. I want to see a cake before anyone licked the edge of frosting off.

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> The Story of Temple Drake was the most outrageous film of its time. Jack La Rue was incredilbly evil.

 

That was not his only evil role. Check him out in WHILE PARIS SLEEPS from 1932 Fox. Does away with

a guy by tossing him into a bakery oven while still alive. In THE GIRL IN 419 from 1933 Paramount,

he's a violin playing psycho who beats Gloria Stuart to a pulp at the beginning of the movie.

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Good point. There should not only be more pre-codes in general but if a pre-code is a part of an actors total make-up of work...not showing it is a poor decision and seems to be disingenuous creative editing.

 

Pre-codes have been discovered and thus are a part of film history. For shame TCM. When you choose to focus/honor an actor...do it with truth so we (the audience) will learn about the life of someone we admire. Please don't leave something so germaine to the future work of the artist...like a pre-code... out. These actors were all green during this time....surely the movies they made then is relavent to the whole.

 

I dislike convenient history. It is a cop out as well as dishonorable and weak. Filmmaking is a part of our history. Please keep this form of art honest.

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