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The actor and the performer he was understudying ended up under contract to the same studio and appeared in 3 pictures together.  The actress would also be signed by the same studio, but the performer she understudied ended up under contract to another studio. 

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OK starliteyes, so summing up the clues to your question so far:

Before this actor and actress went to Hollywood and became stars who would make several pictures together, they met and became friends while they were both appearing in hit Broadway shows and were each understudying a performer who would also go on to stardom in Hollywood.

Name the actor and actress, their respective shows and who they were understudying.

The actor and actress were both appearing in musicals written by famous composers at the time that they met. The actor was in a Rodgers & Hart musical and the actress was in a Cole Porter musical.

The actor and the performer he was understudying ended up under contract to the same studio and appeared in 3 pictures together.  The actress would also be signed by the same studio, but the performer she understudied ended up under contract to another studio.

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My first guess:

Cole Porter's "Panama Hattie" production of 1940-42 had Betty Hutton understudying Ethel Merman.

Rodgers & Hart's "Too Many Girls" production of 1939-40 had Eddie Bracken understudying Van Johnson.

On film, Betty Hutton was paired with Eddie Bracken in "The Fleet's In" (1942), "Happy Go Lucky" (1943), "The Miracle of Morgan's Creek" (1943) and "Duffy's Tavern" (1945), and the two also played themselves in "Star Spangled Rhythm" (1942).

But where it falls apart being the reverse of what you say, Eddie Bracken, Betty Hutton and Ethel Merman were all under contract to Paramount while Van Johnson was at MGM. It should be Ethel who is the odd one out based on your question.

 

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, Defenestrator said:

OK starliteyes, so summing up the clues to your question so far:

Before this actor and actress went to Hollywood and became stars who would make several pictures together, they met and became friends while they were both appearing in hit Broadway shows and were each understudying a performer who would also go on to stardom in Hollywood.

Name the actor and actress, their respective shows and who they were understudying.

The actor and actress were both appearing in musicals written by famous composers at the time that they met. The actor was in a Rodgers & Hart musical and the actress was in a Cole Porter musical.

The actor and the performer he was understudying ended up under contract to the same studio and appeared in 3 pictures together.  The actress would also be signed by the same studio, but the performer she understudied ended up under contract to another studio.

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My first guess:

Cole Porter's "Panama Hattie" production of 1940-42 had Betty Hutton understudying Ethel Merman.

Rodgers & Hart's "Too Many Girls" production of 1939-40 had Eddie Bracken understudying Van Johnson.

On film, Betty Hutton was paired with Eddie Bracken in "The Fleet's In" (1942), "Happy Go Lucky" (1943), "The Miracle of Morgan's Creek" (1943) and "Duffy's Tavern" (1945), and the two also played themselves in "Star Spangled Rhythm" (1942).

But where it falls apart being the reverse of what you say, Eddie Bracken, Betty Hutton and Ethel Merman were all under contract to Paramount while Van Johnson was at MGM. It should be Ethel who is the odd one out based on your question.

 

 

 

 

That was a good answer, Defestrator, although most of it was not the answer I was looking for.  Panama Hattie was the Cole Porter musical and Betty Hutton is part of that answer.  However, she also had an understudy and that actress was the one who went to MGM along with the two actors from the other musical.

The Rodgers & Hart musical I'm looking for came after Too Many Girls.  It ran from 1940 to 1941. The star of that musical became known for his dancing, while the actor who understudied him didn't do all that much dancing in his films. 

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OK, next guess. June Allyson had understudied Betty Hutton in Panama Hattie.

The Rodgers & Hart musical would be Pal Joey starring Gene Kelly who worked with June in Thousands Cheer (1943), The Three Musketeers (1948), Words and Music (1948). But Gene was the original star, so he was not the understudy equivalent to June. I don't know who understudied Gene on the show, although Van Johnson was part of the show also, and he worked numerous times with June on the screen. Was Van the understudy? In that case, Betty would be the Paramount odd one out, with the other three being MGM stars.

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Yes, believe it or not, Van Johnson understudied Gene Kelly in Pal Joey.  I always wondered if he had to go on for Gene how he could have fit in his clothes because Van appeared to be much bigger and beefier than Gene.  And June Allyson understudied Betty Hutton.

Van Johnson and June Allyson met in the apartment of a mutual friend while they were appearing in these shows and hit it off right away.  Then, of course, they both ended up at MGM where they co-starred in several films.

Good work, Defenestrator!  The thread is all yours.

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18 minutes ago, Defenestrator said:

New question: Who is missing from this group?

Thomas Mitchell, Brian Aherne, Harry Carey, Claude Rains

Brian Donlevy is missing. They were all nominated for Best Supporting Actor for their 1939 films.Thomas Mitchell won btw. ?

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On 7/9/2020 at 1:58 AM, starliteyes said:

One thing this star was adamant about was having french fries doused in ketchup for breakfast.  If she didn't get them, she wouldn't work.

Name the actress.  

I'm not sure, just taking a shot maybe Deanna Durbin? she shared a Special Oscar with Mickey Rooney and she did retire early

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Good shot, lav!  You hit the bulls eye.  Yes, it seems that Deanna refused to work unless she could start the day with french fries for breakfast.  I wonder if she continued this habit when she retired and moved to France.

Your thread.    

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Thanks Star, good question :)

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This actor and actress who had been in a noir together had an affair for years. Unfortunately, the actor was also involved with another actress. The actress never forgave the other actress and started a rumor about the actor in her tell all book.  She later recanted what she wrote about him. Who were the 3 and what was the noir 2 of them starred in ????

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23 minutes ago, lavenderblue19 said:

The actor passed away when he was in his 40's

 Oh, Lav-- I've only recently heard this story in the last few years. I'm surprised by it. And I don't know all the details, but Esther Williams was engaged to Jeff Chandler. And she told people she broke it off because he was homosexual or bisexual.

 I'm not a particular fan of either, so I had to look up the movie they were in together. It was called

" A Raw Wind in Eden ".

I think I got the principals right, but since neither one of them is in my fandom, I don't have all the details. Sorry.....

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12 minutes ago, Princess of Tap said:

 Oh, Lav-- I've only recently heard this story in the last few years. I'm surprised by it. And I don't know all the details, but Esther Williams was engaged to Jeff Chandler. And she told people she broke it off because he was homosexual or bisexual.

 I'm not a particular fan of either, so I had to look up the movie they were in together. It was called

" A Raw Wind in Eden ".

I think I got the principals right, but since neither one of them is in my fandom, I don't have all the details. Sorry.....

2/3's are right, as far as the actor and 1 of the actresses goes. But that is not the film. Esther never won an Oscar and never appeared in a noir with Jeff. The other actress that Esther hated was? Esther did not claim Jeff Chandler was bi or homosexual. She wrote that she caught him trying on her clothes, that he was a cross dresser. there is a difference. What was the noir and who was the other actress?? Please read the original question.

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13 minutes ago, lavenderblue19 said:

2/3's are right, as far as the actor and 1 of the actresses goes. But that is not the film. Esther never won an Oscar and never appeared in a noir with Jeff. The other actress that Esther hated was? Esther did not claim Jeff Chandler was bi or homosexual. She wrote that she caught him trying on her clothes, that he was a cross dresser. there is a difference. What was the noir and who was the other actress?? Please read the original question.

Oh that's all I know.

I read the question. You'll have to find somebody else who's more knowledgeable to answer the rest.

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Ok Princess has answered Esther Williams was the actress who wrote the tell all book and Jeff Chandler was the actor. There was the other actress who won an Oscar ( for a different film) and appeared in a noir with Jeff Chandler. This other actress had had an affair with Jeff Chandler and Esther hated her because of it. What was the noir this other actress was in with Jeff Chandler and who was she ??

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