cujas Posted September 11, 2010 Share Posted September 11, 2010 (I was able to follow rock all my life because I had a big brother. So I know the records but have never seen these movies.) Alan Freed--the Godfather of Rock 'n Roll is the DJ you speak of-- his movies were: 1) 'Rock Around The Clock 2) "Rock, Rock, Rock 3) "Mr. Rock and Roll" 4) "Don't Knock The Rock" 5) "Go Johnny Go!" Because my brother took me, I was able to see Fats Domino, Bo Diddley and Jackie Wilson in live performance when I was 6 or 7. So I had seen a lot of rock before I saw The Beatles in live performance in '64. "Long Live Rock 'n Roll!" PS The Boswell Sisters--"Rock and Roll" Edited by: cujas on Sep 11, 2010 4:29 PM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DownGoesFrazier Posted September 12, 2010 Share Posted September 12, 2010 The Boswell sisters may have used the term "rock and roll" way back in 1934, but that's not where Freed got it. His source was a 1951 r&b song. What was the song?.... The rest of your answer is obviously correct. Edited by: finance on Sep 12, 2010 2:05 PM Edited by: finance on Sep 12, 2010 2:48 PM Edited by: finance on Sep 12, 2010 3:58 PM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cujas Posted September 12, 2010 Share Posted September 12, 2010 Well--the term rock 'n roll was in a lot of songs separately and indivudually before 1951. I actually had an ep that was ancient--Roy Brown--2 cuts maybe it "Good Rockin' at Midnight" or "Good Rockin' Tonight" But the term rock 'n roll is older than 1951. So I think there is really no definitive answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudskipper Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 Maybe this is what finance is looking for: " Rock-and-Roll (r?k'n roll') n. first so used (1951) by Alan Freed, Cleveland disc jockey, taken from the song "My Baby Rocks Me with a Steady Roll". The use of rock, roll, rock and roll, etc., with reference to sexual intercourse, is traditional in blues, a form of popular music that evolved in the 1950's from rhythm and blues, characterized by the use of electric guitars, a strong rhythm with an accent on the offbeat, and youth-oriented lyrics... The term "rock and roll" now has at least two different meanings, both in common usage. The American Heritage Dictionary[10] and the Merriam-Webster Dictionary[11] both define rock and roll as synonymous with rock music. Allwords.com, however, refers specifically to the music of the 1950s.[12] In the earliest rock and roll styles of the late 1940s and early 1950s, either the piano or saxophone was often the lead instrument, but these were generally replaced or supplemented by guitar in the middle to late 1950s.[13] The beat is essentially a boogie woogie blues rhythm with an accentuated backbeat, the latter almost always provided by a snare drum.[14] Classic rock and roll is usually played with one or two electric guitars (one lead, one rhythm), a string bass or (after the mid-1950s) an electric bass guitar, and a drum kit." The phrase had been used in the lyrics of rhythm and blues records since at least the early 1930s, such as in Bob Robinson's "Rock and Rolling" (1939), Buddy Jones's "Rock and Rolling Mamma" (1939) and Joe Turner's "Cherry Red" (1939).[40] Three different songs with the title "Rock and Roll" were recorded in the late 1940s; by Paul Bascomb in 1947, Wild Bill Moore in 1948, and by Doles Dickens in 1949.[40] One such record where the phrase was repeated throughout the song was "Rock and Roll Blues", recorded in 1949 by Erline "Rock and Roll" Harris.[41] Alan Freed broadcasting in the early 1950sIn 1951 Cleveland, Ohio, disc jockey Alan Freed began broadcasting rhythm, blues, and country music for a multi-racial audience. Freed, familiar with the music of earlier decades used the phrase "rock and roll" to describe the music he aired; its use is also credited to Freed's sponsor, record store owner Leo Mintz, who encouraged Freed to play the music on the radio.[42] So while the phrase may been novel to the masses, it was clearly in use long before. [edit] Early rock and roll records Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DownGoesFrazier Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 I have seen several sources which stated that Freed got the term from the 1951 hit r&b song, "Sixty Minute Man", by Billy Ward and the Dominoes, which Freed played on the air, and which some actually consider the first rock and roll record. One of the lines was "I rock'em and roll 'em all night long"......Your thread, cujas. (I doubt whether Freed ever heard of the Boswell Sisters) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cujas Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 Don't play Freed short--he knew all forms of American pop music. and FYI--The Andrews Sisters were singing"Race" Music in the '40's-- This next one is just for laughs--but it's very Hollywood. Which Male Golden Age Star had a vanity license plate that read: RU 18 It was in the '30's and the car was a custom made Packard. He was at the very top of the heap with a contract at a major studio. Edited by: cujas on Sep 13, 2010 12:47 PM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cujas Posted September 14, 2010 Share Posted September 14, 2010 What Big Male Movie Star had the Vanity Plate of: RU 18 on his custom made Packard? Hint: It would be fair to say that he had a reputation of long-standing with the "ladies". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cujas Posted September 14, 2010 Share Posted September 14, 2010 deleted duplicate Edited by: cujas on Sep 14, 2010 6:04 PM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mudskipper Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 Errol Flynn ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cujas Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 Can there be anybody else that bold? Mr. Mudskipper, your turn: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudskipper Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 Regarding your question, I was reminded of the 1958 scandal regarding Errol Flynn and 15-yo Beverly Adland hence the answer... Next: A star who played "James Bond" and two "Bond villains" appeared in an epic black and white film before they all became famous. Name the film and the three actors...You can also name the roles they played, if you want... Edited by: mudskipper on Sep 15, 2010 8:24 PM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daneldorado Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 mudski wrote: A star who played "James Bond" and two "Bond villains" appeared in an epic black and white film before they all became famous. Name the film and the three actors. Well, the epic black and white film has to be "A Night to Remember" (1958) about the sinking of the Titanic. Sean Connery was in it, as were Honor Blackman (Miss Galore in "Goldfinger"), Michael Goodliffe (Bill Tanner in "The Man With the Golden Gun"), Laurence Naismith (Donald Munger in "Diamonds are Forever"), and Desmond Llewelyn (who played Q in about a dozen Bond films). Cheers, Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudskipper Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 Good guess, Dan, but no. Michael Goodliffe and Honor Blackman didn't really play villains...and when I say villains, I mean villains...Don't look too hard because the answer is obvious if you think about it.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daneldorado Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 Okay, then... Since you say the earlier film was "an epic black and white film," then I suggest the film was "Lolita" (1962). You also say: "A star who played "James Bond" -- and you are very specific about putting quotes around the name James Bond -- so I'm assuming the star is playing someone other than the real Agent 007 we all know and love. Let's say the quotes refer to the character played by Peter Sellers in the 1966 version of "Cinema Royale." Peter Sellers was in that early epic b&w film. So were Christopher Lee, who would later appear as a Bond villain in "The Man With the Golden Gun," and Lois Maxwell, who played Moneypenny in more Bond films than I can count. Had enough? Cheers, Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudskipper Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 Nope. It's neither of those movies....It's an epic I tell you. It's right there in front of you...Now go back to work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allaboutlana Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 At first I was thinking of 1958?s A Tale of Two Cities (epic?) with Christopher Lee and Donald Pleasence, who were both Bond villains, and I found out Eric Pohlman was in that, too, who incidentally provided the voice for Blofeld in From Russia with Love and Thunderball. But there was no ?Bond? actor. Then like you say where else can you find an all-star cast of Americans and Europeans, except a war picture like The Longest Day with Curt Jergens (The Spy who Loved Me villain), Gert Frobe (Goldfinger), and Sean Connery. Edited by: allaboutlana on Sep 16, 2010 12:04 PM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudskipper Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 See? What did I tell you ?...an epic's epic and a great movie too. Your thread, Lana. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allaboutlana Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 Thanks. Next: When this actress and comedienne appeared on the tv scene in the late 60s and in her screen debut in 1970, she shared her real name with an Oscar-winning actress, so she made up a stage name. She would later be more famous as a tv personality in the 70s and 80s and also penned a novel that would be made into a movie. Name the actress? real name, her stage name, her novel made into a movie, and also the 1970 movie she appeared in. Edited by: allaboutlana on Sep 16, 2010 1:22 PM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MilesArcher Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 Is it Fannie Flagg, whose real name was Patricia Neal? She wrote "Fried Green Tomatoes" and appeared in "Five Easy Pieces". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allaboutlana Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 You got it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MilesArcher Posted September 17, 2010 Share Posted September 17, 2010 Thanks. It's not that unusual for an actor or actress to be in two versions of the same story, but playing different roles in each. Herbert Marshall was in two versions of "The Letter". In the 1929 version, he played the lover who is shot and killed. In the remake in 1940, he played the husband of the woman who does the shooting. Both Gregory Peck and Robert Mitchum had parts in the remake of "Cape Fear" after playing the leads in the first one, and the late Kevin McCarthy, after starring in the original "Invasion Of The Body Snatchers", was still on the run in a cameo appearance in the remake. There was however, an actor who played a young boy in a movie that was first made as a drama and then more than a decade later, when it was remade as a musical, he played the older brother of the young boy. The original movie retained the title of the novel that it had been adapted from. The musical had a completely different title, and although it had a top cast and was fairly well done, it was not very successful at the box office. Can you name this actor and the two movies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daneldorado Posted September 17, 2010 Share Posted September 17, 2010 I think that might be "Summer Holiday" (1948), which was based on "Ah, Wilderness!" (1935). Mickey Rooney was in both films. He played the "Richard Miller" role in the musical version, and had played the younger brother in the original film. Cheers, Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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