FredCDobbs Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 This is very interesting seeing two different films made from the exact same movie script. Seems to me that Chester Morris' character is more evil and stupid than William Holden, and Morris seems more like a real criminal, while Holden seemed like an educated guy who was only pretending to be a dumb criminal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scsu1975 Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 Well, I suppose we can start an "Evil Chester Morris" thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvaG92260 Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 Fred... is there any way i can get your email from u..i would really like to talk to u in private? Hope that doesnt freak out...lol...i understand if u dont want to..its just hard saying everything on here Ava Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FredCDobbs Posted March 26, 2008 Author Share Posted March 26, 2008 You can send me a private message on this board. I don't think anyone else can read that. Just click on that envelope symbol just above and to the right of this thread, just above the word "Logout". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FredCDobbs Posted March 26, 2008 Author Share Posted March 26, 2008 I have copies of the three versions of "The Maltese Falcon". I like the first one best. I have copies of the three versions of the "Miss Sadie Thompson" story. I like the second one (the Crawford/Houston version) the best. Man, it is gut wrenching. Can you imagine tyring to relax in a remote island hotel with those two people in it, yelling at each other all night long! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvaG92260 Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 cool thanks Ava Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scsu1975 Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 Wasn't Morris in a version of The Three Godfathers? I think that film was made about 247 times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FredCDobbs Posted March 26, 2008 Author Share Posted March 26, 2008 Yes he was. I think I have 3 versions of that one, but I think there were more made. I think there was also a silent verson. ---------------- According to IMDB, there are these versions: Broncho Billy and the Baby (1915) The Three Godfathers (1916) Marked Men (1919) Hell's Heroes (1930) Three Godfathers (1936) Three Godfathers (1948) The Godchild (1974) (TV) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scsu1975 Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 I think I've seen 3 versions as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FredCDobbs Posted March 26, 2008 Author Share Posted March 26, 2008 1930: Charles Bickford 1936: Lewis Stone 1948: John Wayne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scsu1975 Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 Yes, those are the three I've seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FredCDobbs Posted March 26, 2008 Author Share Posted March 26, 2008 Ralph Bellamy and Ann Dvorak are excellent in this version. I think I like this "Blind Alley" version best. Chester Morris is really great! Yay TCM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scsu1975 Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 I'll check it out tomorrow .. or today, since it is past midnight where I am. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FredCDobbs Posted March 26, 2008 Author Share Posted March 26, 2008 Ha! Hitchock swiped his dream sequence and flashback ideas from this movie, for his Spellbound! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scsu1975 Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 "Blind Alley" is very good in its own right. I think both movies are about even. Ralph Bellamy may be a bit better than Lee J. Cobb, but William Holden still beats Chester Morris. I see Holden playing against his "pretty boy" type, which makes him more menacing to me. Morris always seemed like a crook in his movies, scowling, swaggering, etc., so I while I enjoyed his performance, I just felt like it was the same old Chester Morris. Did you notice in the second dream sequence, the scene where the cops are following the kid into the saloon is the same footage in both films? Marc Lawrence as a hood ... brilliant casting. How about Milburn Stone in a bowtie? Whose idea was that? Poor John Hamilton didn't even get a chance to say "Great Caesar's Ghost!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Chuck Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 Thank you, TCM, for doing the research and broadcasting both of these. There are aspects of each film to enjoy. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FredCDobbs Posted March 26, 2008 Author Share Posted March 26, 2008 >Did you notice in the second dream sequence, the scene where the cops are following the kid into the saloon is the same footage in both films? I didn't notice that. I didn't watch the more recent film very closely. I mainly listened to it. But I watched the original one. For me, Morris was more frightening than Holden, but maybe for you it's the other way around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FredCDobbs Posted March 26, 2008 Author Share Posted March 26, 2008 ?The Dark Past? (the more recent) version reminded me of "The Petrified Forest". Al Walker = Duke Mantee http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbRH__KePbQ Leslie Howard, philosopher = Lee J. Cobb, psychiatrist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scsu1975 Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 Yes, you mentioned this in another post. This theme is also played out in "Desperate Hours" and "Suddenly." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FredCDobbs Posted March 26, 2008 Author Share Posted March 26, 2008 Did you see ?The Amazing Dr. Clitterhouse? last night? That?s the first time I ever saw that film. I thought it was great, and the ending was wonderful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scsu1975 Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 Yes, I watched the tape of it today. I had seen it before but it's been awhile. Very entertaining film ... kind of a macabre comedy. Irving Bacon as the jury foreman was hysterical. Eddie G. had a flair for comedy. I also watched Crime Doctor. Neat little picture. I hope TCM shows some of the others in the series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rainingviolets21 Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 And lets not forget the gals---Nina Foch and Adele Jergins were super... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FredCDobbs Posted March 26, 2008 Author Share Posted March 26, 2008 I think the crime doctor series is very interesting. Often they start off with what seems like one story, but then things change and a completely different story develops. Last year TCM ran a bunch of them. The one last night was apparently the first of the series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scsu1975 Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 The Whistler series is like that too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scsu1975 Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 Oh, how could I forget Adele Jergens? I'm surprised she wasn't the "moll." She always seem to play the hard-boiled types, especially in the 50s (as a blonde). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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