tobitz Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 How could I have forgotten Yvette Mimieux was in this? Any Lillian Hellman fans out there? This is a movie I've wanted to see since I was a kid, and what a joy to be seeing it in letterbox format! Late career appearance from Gene Tierney! Early career direction from George Roy Hill. It is rather difficult to imagine Dean Martin, Geraldine Page and Wendy Hiller as brother and sisters, I must admit. With that accent, I keep picturing him in the Eli Wallach role in Baby Doll. And some good New Orleans jazz too. Message was edited by: tobitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FredCDobbs Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 Well, dang it all! Ah jess loves deese ol? Southern films like ?Toys In Da Attic?, ?specially da ones filmed in New Or-leeens. Ah remember when ma cousin Mary Lou and ah lived down on Bourbon Street in the da French Quarter, so long ago. We used to sit out on our veranda every evenin? ? me in my dirty tank top T-shirt and greasy work pants, drinkin? a cool Jax beer, an Mary Lou in her peur white silk slip, always smokin? a cigarette ? an we could hear da.... uhh... da... well, some folks singin? St. Louie Woman in dat old bar down by da levee. ?Course we didn?t have no such thing as air conditionin? back in them days. Dat?s whaa we was always out on our veranda, ?cept when we was.... well, you know, inside.... whar da neighbors couldn?t see us. Dang, ah wish ah had me a big mess of crawfish rat now.... ah shor miss ma cousin? Mary Lou. Ah recon ah needs to go visit her up at Mandeville when ah gets a chance... soon as ah gets out of Angola. Hey, ah bets ya?all can hep me make up a list of old-South films.... ah?ll start the list: Suddenly Lass Summer Da Fugitive Kine Sweet Byrd of Youth Da Long Hot Summer Cat ona Hot Tin Ruff Da Glass Managerie (ah Managerie is a bunch of animals) All da King?s Men Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tobitz Posted March 28, 2008 Author Share Posted March 28, 2008 lol, Fred. Yes, I know just what you mean. But I can't help it. I notice The Little Foxes isn't on the list. I keep picturing Davis and Crawford as the sisters and wondering what kind of movie it would have made. (But who would have played the brother?). I suppose, considering the alleged personal antagonism, it would have turned into another Whatever Happened to Baby Jane? btw, on a much smaller scale, we have to deal with the damned stereotypes in my neck of the woods too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tobitz Posted March 28, 2008 Author Share Posted March 28, 2008 also btw, I always felt that most Tennessee Williams work (which I appreciated more when I was young) could have been set anywhere, and simply was dealing with human nature in general. Just as I recall Hopper/Fonda always claimed Easy Rider could have been set anywhere in the states. If I remember right, the original killing, that at least partly inspired of Easy Rider, happened in Colorado, not in the south. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FredCDobbs Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 >also btw, I always felt that most Tennessee Williams work (which I appreciated more when I was young) could have been set anywhere, and simply was dealing with human nature in general. Well, ob course. The craziest and weirdest folks I eber met lived in California. An we didn?t kill no hippies down in da South. We made friends with ?em so we could take advantage of their cute chicks (dats what day called dair female cousins). Yuck, yuck, we fooled dem hippies a lot back in de ol? days, and we knew a lot of dair cousins too!) Charlie Starkweather wuz from Neebraska. Eddie Gein wuz from Wissconsin. So wuz Jeffrey Dahmer. Charlie Manson wuz from Ohio an California. Ted Bundy wuz from Vermont. John Wayne Gacy wuz from Shecargo. David Berkowitz wuz from Brooklin. Timothy McVeigh wuz from Lockport, New York. An hey, hab you eber driven around downtown Manhattan after dark? Or da South side of Shecargo? Or East St. Louis? Or Deetroit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otterhere Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 Well, crup; I'm missing it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tobitz Posted March 28, 2008 Author Share Posted March 28, 2008 sheesh. I know. I live in California, where the nuts come from. My sister married a guy from the south, who was good enough to take me to the first non-Disney's I got to see. I never heard any shuck and jive when I was visiting, but yes, I certainly get the picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tobitz Posted March 28, 2008 Author Share Posted March 28, 2008 In a Hollywood career beginning in the '30's and extending into the '70's, Lillian Hellman wrote or co-wrote, among other things, These Three (1936), Dead End (1937), The Little Foxes (1941), Watch on the Rhine (1943), and The North Star (1943). And was reputedly Dashiel Hammett's inspiration for Nora Charles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FredCDobbs Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 How do you suppose she got into the Gentile family to gather such private and personal information for her dialogue and story for ?Toys in the Attic?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rainingviolets21 Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 Since Dean Martin was born in 1917 and Gene Tierney was born in 1920, how in the world was she cast as his mother-in-law ? As for Yvette Mimieux I was waiting for her to ask "how do they wear their hair, the women of your time?" If you consider this film a comedy you've got it made..I woudn't have missed it for the world... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tobitz Posted March 28, 2008 Author Share Posted March 28, 2008 well, I never said it was any good or made sense, just that I'd wanted to see it since I was a kid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FredCDobbs Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 Man, these two spider girls shor are perty. One looks jess like my cousin Lula Bell, and the other looks like my cousin Mary Sue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tobitz Posted March 28, 2008 Author Share Posted March 28, 2008 yeah, I saw this was on again Did I start this off with my comment about Dean Martin's phony accent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FredCDobbs Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 No. I was just about to start a new thread titled, ?Sleazy films about da South...? That?s what my list of titles was for. I wanted to see how many titles we could come up with. Then I saw your thread and I decided, on impulse, to post my message here. If it bothers you, I?ll shut up. I think about doing this type of thread every time I see a ?sleazy south? movie like this. The Southern accents always were bad in the movies. Down in the real South, there are many state by state and even city by city regional accents, so Hollywood can never do the right accent. In New Orleans there are several city-district or "Ward" accents, such as the Irish Channel accent, and the Cajun accent, and the lower class black accent, and the upper class black accent, and a few others, including the New Orleans-by-way-of-New-York accent, and of those there are the Brooklyn and the Manhattan and the old-immigrant variations. The fake-French-as-cajun Hollywood accents for South Louisana are terrible. I didn't mean to co-opt your thread. Sorry. I'll shut up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tobitz Posted March 28, 2008 Author Share Posted March 28, 2008 No problem, Fred. Especially while waiting for all the octopi tonight. This thread's going to die quickly anyway. I was thinking of how of how it was almost a genre unto itself, at least when I was growing up. Does "A Face in the Crowd" qualify? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FredCDobbs Posted March 29, 2008 Share Posted March 29, 2008 Yes it does qualify, although it is not a Faulkner/Williams/Hellman kind of decaying-family story. But Griffith?s from the South and he is Corrupt, so it qualifies. As far back as 1949, "Flamingo Road" qualifies too. Also on the list: Intruder in the Dust Summer and Smoke The Rose Tattoo Walk on the Wild Side This Property is Condemned A Streetcar Named Desire Baby Doll Sanctuary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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