The Annual FrankGrimes Torture Thread

[FrankGrimes]

A good Hitch evening to you, Miss Gun for Hire -- *you seem to expect a lot from just "entertaining" pictures, unless they're some dorky film from the 80s.*

 

It's not that I expect it, it's that depth can vault an adventure film to a higher level with me. I do like *The Adventures of Robin Hood*. I just don't love it. And I prefer other adventure films to it because they possess some depth. I prefer a film like *The Black Swan* to it, because of Maureen O'Hara.

 

*I don't think so. I have never seen The Conqueror but it gets many bad mentions.*

 

 

That one is coming up for me. I'm currently at the end of the 50s with Wayne. I've been working backwards. Quiet Gal has mentioned watching *Reap the Wild Wind*, so I'm going to be checking that one out.

 

 

*I remember wanting that kind of feeling from the movie and not finding it.*

 

 

The main comparison to *The Lady Vanishes* with *Berlin Express* is the disappearance of a key figure. That sets everything into motion.

 

 

*It looks like she's wearing one of Garbo's costumes! Who is the male lead?*

 

 

It's a strange tale and that costume comes into play for a reason. Irving Pichel plays the screwy guy in *The Cheat*. He makes you feel uncomfortable, right from the start. He's playing me! He has a weird collection in the film.

 

 

*They veer into schlock and horror in the 60s.*

 

 

I did know Joan's career went that way by the 60s.

 

 

*At least you didn't hate Zhivago or Robin Hood.*

 

 

That's right!

 

 

*Great screencaps, as always! Linda looks like a child, she still has her baby fat.*

 

 

She does have her baby fat! You can kind of tell she is 15 because of that. But her acting doesn't give you that impression. I cannot believe she plays a married woman... at 15!

 

 

*The ending is heartbreaking.*

 

 

Yes, literally. David Lean sure knows how to work your emotions.

 

 

*she looks and acts like a matron.*

 

 

It's a poor pairing for Frank.

 

 

 

 

*that picture of the horse are so sad!*

 

 

It's great acting!

 

 

*i don't even remember lionel being in it.*

 

 

The very opening of *Lone Star* features a meeting in Andrew Jackson's (Lionel Barrymore) study. He gives the orders to Burke (Clark Gable).

 

 

*those caps are cute. i don't remember the movie really except for marilyn's scene you showed.*

 

 

It's really Harpo's film. The film actually plays like an episode of Batman. Ilona Massey plays the main villain, ala Catwoman. She also has two henchman, a Batman staple. One of them is played by Raymond Burr.

 

 

 

 

*that's funny about the pill.*

 

 

Of course, she is talking about a sleeping pill. But there's a ton of double entendres at the end of *On the Riviera*.

 

 

Did you see the "Laura" painting in the one cap?

 

 

*it's not supposed to be a likeable character in rogue cop.*

 

 

Perfect casting! Robert Taylor rarely pulls me in.

 

 

*i thought you'd like it. you should see Cowboy next for Ford.*

 

 

I actually don't have that one yet.

 

 

*i find it dry as dust.*

 

 

The theme is definitely not one you'd like. It views marriage as a friendship without love. But they start to realize their friendship runs much deeper. The setting surely isn't your kind, either.

[FrankGrimes]

Hi, Capuchin -- *Always have 472 reasons why you have to leave immediately.*

 

So that's my problem! I'm not one to leave.

 

*She'll make a game of it at first, but once you know she's serious, it's best just to do whatever she says. You're going to eventually anyway, and you'll save yourself a world of grief by caving in quickly.*

 

Now that's the perfect advice with any woman!

 

*Have you seen Funny Face? It's one of our favorites. It shares a lot with Roman Holiday (chance meeting, different worlds, restraint to maintain the proprieties, and love growing out of mutual admiration and respect).*

 

That's good! You just made me want to see a film I was hesitant to watch.

[FrankGrimes]

*Your stills from "Love Happy" points out what I find wrong with it. Jokes that don't go anywhere or have no real punch line. It was unfortunate enough that Groucho didn't appear with the brothers but his stuff feels so "dropped in" to me. "A Night In Casablanca" is much better late Marxes.*

 

Groucho is completely an afterthought in the film, and that definitely makes the film below average for the Marx Brothers.

 

*"Without Love" is an odd film for me. Some fun stuff but the premise is off the wall. Still Tracy and Hepburn in anything (well maybe not "The Sea of Grass" so much) is always a treat. I like them best in "Adam's Rib." "State of The Union" is a good one too.*

 

You're right, it's definitely off the wall. *Adam's Rib* is one of my least favorite of their films. I've yet to watch the other two. *State of the Union* is probably the next one of theirs I'm going to watch.

[FrankGrimes]

Hey there, Queen of the Flurries -- *Wowsa, All this Russian talk must be splling out of my computer and into the weather.. ha. Its a WHITE OUT out there!! *

 

I hope Rod Steiger doesn't show up at your front door! Actually, I think he should be the one to worry.

 

*I bet you all have a lot of fun.*

 

It's pretty competitive. I like to win and so does my cousin. My sister-in-law calls us "sharks."

 

*Ha.. but now I must be VERY out of it, because I have only heard of ONE of those games (Clue) and only the "basic' game version of that. ha. I have never even heard of the others, but I must say (judging from the titles) that YOU must have been the guy picking out the games.. some very "Noir-ish" sounding titles there in some of them. ha. (KILLER BUNNIES???????) ha. But it sounds like you are not alone. you must have a family "tradition" of "Greyness" going on ha. *

 

My brother is just as "grey" as I am. In fact, he likes horror films and dark themes much more than I do. Killer Bunnies was a game he chose. We got it for our cousin for Christmas two years ago with the idea we'd all be playing it. I'm not as keen on the game because the winner is "pot luck." You are to gather up carrots and then the winning carrot is drawn from a pile of cards. It's like playing the lottery. It only takes one carrot to win. So you could have nine carrots and I could have one and mine could be the winner. I have won with just one carrot before.

 

*Oh picture it ha. At one time.. I was very nearly ruthless. ha. One of my younger brothers used to work at a bowling alley when he was a senior in high school, and I used to have to pick him up from work sometimes (because he did not have a car yet) so I would play while i waited for him. ha. Now i am sure there were many others out there better than me.. and I never became champ of the WORLD or anything.. ha. I don't think I ever even got highest score.. but I did get close a few times. Ahhh.. those were the days.. loooooooonnnnnnnnggggg agao. (way so very long ago.. alas)*

 

That's awesome, Mrs. Pac-Man! You have surprised me of late.

 

*UGH!!!! That movie makes me almost sick to my stomach (and I have only seen the last 40 minutes of it or so, ha) That is not (even close to) "fiesty" ha. More like gut wrenching. *

 

*Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf?* is one of the most acidic films I have ever seen. And I do enjoy it on that level. The ending is rather touching.

 

*I think you may be right.. and yet I just never am sure (for SURE) that she really 'falls" for him. At least not "in love" More like she knows she MIGHT.. if she let herself. Or more like she knows she COULD.. in another time or place under different circumstances) I think attraction IS a part of it.. but I think it is because for the first time in a long time.. she begins to feel "attractive" and she remembers what it was like when she and her husband were younger. And I think maybe she is worried that she likes feeling that way again.. and knows it is because of what someone else sees in her.. rather than her husband. And that would be a worrisome thing. (at least to her) So.. I don't know. I get hung up on the "l" word with this one.. because I think THAT is where she really does lean more to her husband. Because I do believe she loves HIM. It just may have been a long time since they were both as affectionate and appreciative of their relationship as they should be. And I love the clip you showed.. because I think it does show this.. but I also do think her concern is for her son too. It is hard to see an "idol" fall.. and she knows he is beginning to idolize a person who clearly cannot be a large part of their lives forever. Someday, Shane was going to leave.. and she didn't want her son to get hurt.*

 

I completely agree with your assessment. I believe it's as you say, Marian is aroused by Shane and she does realize it can lead to complicated, dangerous feelings if she allows it to. She's fully aware of herself and her feelings. Some women let those feelings overtake them because they wish them to. Marian is a strong, good woman who respects her husband and their marriage.

 

When she talks to Joey about not getting too close to Shane, I believe she does mean what she's saying to him, but she's also talking to herself. They are both in danger.

 

It's rather remarkable that both *Shane* and *High Noon*, two of the greatest westerns of all time, are really films about marriage. Even *The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance* has a marital element to it. Oh, and *The Wild Bunch*, too.

 

*Of the list, I have only seen*

 

*2. Charade*

*3. Roman Holiday*

*6. Sabrina*

*and part of 5. Wait Until Dark.. though I confess.. it has been a long time.*

 

 

*But then it has been a LONNNGG time since I have seen any of these, years.. some more like decades.*

 

 

 

*I like #3 well enough.. but I like Sabrina better.. and again.. I like My Fair Lady.. I just am not really too huge on her.. never have been able to say why, exactly.*

 

 

I still cannot get over you liking *Sabrina*. I can't see you liking Audrey. Who are your favorite actresses, by the way?

[rohanaka]

I hope Rod Steiger doesn't show up at your front door! Actually, I think he should be the one to worry

 

 

 

Ha.. yes. He would NOT stand a chance after what I saw of him in Jubal last night. ha. (I left you a word about him down in Westerns in fact. ha. Oh.. and the WORD I left was SLEAZY!) If he showed up HERE he'd get the necktie party routine from me.. POSThaste!

 

 

 

It's pretty competitive. I like to win and so does my cousin. My sister-in-law calls us "sharks

 

 

 

And I thought our YAHTZEE games were "cut throat" ha.Your brother sounds like he is ruthless.. and well.. we already know what a trouble maker YOU can be. I bet you guys smell blood and start circling the water the minute the game starts!! Oh me.. A Grey Fam Shark Fest.. I can picture it now.

 

 

 

I have won with just one carrot before

 

 

 

OH you poor guy.. now fess up.. the REAL reason you are not as fond of this game is not because of the luck factor. you just hate being forced to play a game.. with a VEGGIE in it. ha. What.. Don't bunnies eat Saur Kraut????

 

 

 

When she talks to Joey about not getting too close to Shane, I believe she does mean what she's saying to him, but she's also talking to herself. They are both in danger

 

 

 

At the very least I think she knows her family's ultimate happiness could be in danger. I think she was just as worried of the problems it might cause if Shane were to stay and grow fonder of HER, as much as it would if she were to grow fonder of him. Even if it never WENT anywhere. Because I don't think EITHER of them would ever have acted on their feelings.. but I just think if things had not played out the way they did anyway.. he still would not have stuck around very much longer.. for everyone's sake.. but especially hers.

 

 

 

It's rather remarkable that both *Shane *and *High Noon*, two of the greatest westerns of all time, are really films about marriage. Even *The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance *has a marital element to it. Oh, and *The Wild Bunch*, too

 

 

 

Ha.. well.. um.. I can see the first three (yes... even TMWSLV) but I will have to find a way to FORCE myself to ever watch TWB before I can see what you mean about THAT one. ha (don't ask me why.. but I have always avoided that movie.. and really .. I don't even know much about it..ha. Except that I think it must be about a WILD BUNCH of cowboys.. out there.. in a bunch.. just being wild.

 

 

 

I still cannot get over you liking *Sabrina*. I can't see you liking Audrey

 

 

 

Well honestly.. I can't say that SHE is the reason I like the story.. though I do like her in the story. I guess it is just the story itself (which is why I said earlier that I even like the remake) I just like the way the two brothers who were "locked' into "expected" roles that really did define them pretty much for most of their lives sort of end up finding their real "selves" because of Sabrina.. and I like how that all plays out. Its a sweet story.

 

 

 

Who are your favorite actresses, by the way

 

 

 

UGh.. ha. I am better at naming actors.. but for actresses my MOST fave is easy.. my sweet Maureen. But I DO like Jean Arthur a lot too. (ha.. and no I am not just saying that because we were talking about her right now. ha) I guess if I had to choose absolute favorites hands down.. it would be thoes two. But beyond that I have to say it really is a mixed bag. I can't really say I am HUGE on any one person. It is more about the movies and the characters.. because I do like some actresses in some roles.. So depending on the character they play.. I guess I could also say I also love Judy and Doris (musical and non-musicals alike) and Greer too. . I really enjoy Katherine Hepburn in some of her movies.. mostly the earlier ones.. or the "mid" ones.. Not as much as she got older ha. I like Bette.. (again .. not as much as she got older) and I like Joan C (ha.. younger too.. are you seeing a pattern here?? ha)

 

 

 

OH.. I like a lot of the "character" actors.. Thelma. Dame May.. Edna May.. Ethel B. Oh.. and my beloved Jane Darwell. ha. And several others as well.

 

 

 

What can I say.. I TOLD you I am no 'list maker" ha.. I am just a mixed up mess. ha.

[FrankGrimes]

Hey there, Quiet Gal -- *Ha.. yes. He would NOT stand a chance after what I saw of him in Jubal last night. ha. (I left you a word about him down in Westerns in fact. ha. Oh.. and the WORD I left was SLEAZY!) :DIf he showed up HERE he'd get the necktie party routine from me.. POSThaste! *

 

Why, do you smell of sheep dip? He's a different kind of sleaze in *Doctor Zhivago*.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

*And I thought our YAHTZEE games were "cut throat" ha.Your brother sounds like he is ruthless.. and well.. we already know what a trouble maker YOU can be. < <img class="jive-emoticon" src="http://forums.tcm.com/images/emoticons/silly.gif" border="0" alt=":p"/>I bet you guys smell blood and start circling the water the minute the game starts!! Oh me.. A Grey Fam Shark Fest.. I can picture it now. *

 

 

No, it's not my brother who is the very competitive one. It's my cousin. When it's just us "adults," it's very competitive. My sister-in-law is starting to realize that.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

*OH you poor guy.. now fess up.. the REAL reason you are not as fond of this game is not because of the luck factor. you just hate being forced to play a game.. with a VEGGIE in it. ha. What.. Don't bunnies eat Saur Kraut???? *

 

 

That's great! And true! Now if I was collecting bowls of chicken corn soup, Philly cheese steaks, and slices of Grotto pizza, I'd really be set!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

*At the very least I think she knows her family's ultimate happiness could be in danger. I think she was just as worried of the problems it might cause if Shane were to stay and grow fonder of HER, as much as it would if she were to grow fonder of him. Even if it never WENT anywhere. Because I don't think EITHER of them would ever have acted on their feelings.. but I just think if things had not played out the way they did anyway.. he still would not have stuck around very much longer.. for everyone's sake.. but especially hers.*

 

 

I'd say Marian was concerned about her own feelings, not Shane's. That's something she can control, to a degree. She cannot control Shane's, she can only hope to influence them. But I do agree with you about both of Marian and Shane knowing where the "line" is. Shane knows Marian is the kind of woman he wishes he had. He would settle down with a woman like her. But he knows she's another man's wife. This means he must leave. The danger with Marian is that she's going to start comparing Shane with her husband.

 

 

*Ha.. well.. um.. I can see the first three (yes... even TMWSLV) but I will have to find a way to FORCE myself to ever watch TWB before I can see what you mean about THAT one. ha (don't ask me why.. but I have always avoided that movie.. and really .. I don't even know much about it..ha. Except that I think it must be about a WILD BUNCH of cowboys.. out there.. in a bunch.. just being wild. *

 

 

Oh, you've never seen *The Wild Bunch* ? It's all about marriage. Well, maybe if you're married to Miss G.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

*Well honestly.. I can't say that SHE is the reason I like the story.. though I do like her in the story. I guess it is just the story itself (which is why I said earlier that I even like the remake) I just like the way the two brothers who were "locked' into "expected" roles that really did define them pretty much for most of their lives sort of end up finding their real "selves" because of Sabrina.. and I like how that all plays out. Its a sweet story.*

 

 

Who is this?

 

 

*UGh.. ha. I am better at naming actors.. but for actresses my MOST fave is easy.. my sweet Maureen.*

 

 

Maureen is sweet?! Sweet as a viper!

 

 

*But I DO like Jean Arthur a lot too. (ha.. and no I am not just saying that because we were talking about her right now. ha) I guess if I had to choose absolute favorites hands down.. it would be thoes two. But beyond that I have to say it really is a mixed bag. I can't really say I am HUGE on any one person. It is more about the movies and the characters.. because I do like some actresses in some roles.. So depending on the character they play.. I guess I could also say I also love Judy and Doris (musical and non-musicals alike) and Greer too. . I really enjoy Katherine Hepburn in some of her movies.. mostly the earlier ones.. or the "mid" ones.. Not as much as she got older ha. I like Bette.. (again .. not as much as she got older) and I like Joan C (ha.. younger too.. are you seeing a pattern here?? ha)*

 

 

I bet if I asked you to name your favorite actors, you'd easily rattle those off. So what is it with you and actresses?

 

 

You like Joan Crawford and Bette Davis? Now that's an upset!

 

 

I can definitely see you liking Jean Arthur. You and Movieman have similar tastes and she's a huge favorite of hers.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

*OH.. I like a lot of the "character" actors.. Thelma. Dame May.. Edna May.. Ethel B. Oh.. and my beloved Jane Darwell. ha. And several others as well.*

 

 

Now that's something I completely see with you! You like the wise, older characters. How this lines up with you owning "Saturday Night Fever" on vinyl, I have no idea!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

*What can I say.. I TOLD you I am no 'list maker" ha.. I am just a mixed up mess. ha*

 

 

Don't I know it!

[rohanaka]

 

Why, do you smell of sheep dip

 

 

HA!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks for putting that COMMA in there.. othewise... ha.

 

 

The danger with Marian is that she's going to start comparing Shane with her husband

 

 

Well I can't argue with that.. but I think that was a bigger problem for her little boy.. she was old enough and mature enough to sort through feelings like that (if she had to) but her son would not have handled that sort of comparison as well. I am sure that there is a lot of truth in what you are saying.. again.. I have to say... its a pretty complex story on a lot of levels.

 

 

Oh, you've never seen *The Wild Bunch* ? It's all about marriage. Well, maybe if you're married to Miss G

 

 

OK.. I think I see whats going on here.. Miss G.. why do I get the feeling we need to string him up.. because A) I think he is lying to me about TWB.. and I think he is NOT being very sweet to somone so sweet as you!! I'll get the frozen rope and the hat pin ready and meet you out in the mudpit and we'll lure him in and make sure he minds his manners better next time)

 

 

Who is this

 

 

What????????? I said it was a "sweet story".. I can't like sweet now and then????

 

 

Maureen is sweet?! Sweet as a viper

 

 

No.. ADOLPHE is a viper... and I MAY have to get him out of his little house and have him come pay you a visit.. you are being so rotten!! What do you mean asking "Maureen is sweet??" Of COURSE she is.. Ok.. yes.. I confess she is sweet AND feisty.. but still SWEET.

 

 

I bet if I asked you to name your favorite actors, you'd easily rattle those off

 

 

And you'd be right.. ha. The guys are much easier for me to sort through than the gals when it comes to favorite actors/actresses.

 

 

So what is it with you and actresses

 

 

I am not sure.. but there really are just very few that I can watch and say I like almost everything I have ever seen them in (at least the ones who have leading lady status) I DO have several on my "character actress" list that I can say that for.. but not too many who tend to be the star. I think for women (more than the men) it really REALLY depends on the role.

 

 

You like Joan Crawford and Bette Davis? Now that's an upset

 

 

Well and see THOSE two for sure it would really be more about the ROLE they are playing as to whether I really "like" them.

 

 

I also should have included Loretta Young and Claudette Colbert Angela Lansbury and Theresa Wright too. Oh.. ha.. and my beloved Mildred Natwick as well. See.. I do have a lot of actresses I like.. there's probably at least five or six more I could list if I sat here long enough and thought of it. But again.. once you get past Jean and Maureen.. it really (really) just depends on the role they are playing how MUCH I like them.

 

 

You like the wise, older characters

 

 

They usually get the best lines and some of the best moments in a story too. ha. I do like to see a grouchy old gal put a smart alec youngun in his or her place. ha. (now why THAT would be appealing to someone like me. hmmmmmm I have NO idea!!)

 

 

How this lines up with you owning "Saturday Night Fever" on vinyl, I have no idea

 

 

Ha.. well.. um... like movies, I guess I like a little "variety" with my music now and then too. ha. (or at least I DID.. way back when) You should have SEEN my "vinyl" collection way back in the late 70's and 80's. I was a MIXED bag of chaos back then for sure. Ha. (lets see..late 70's, very early 80's... hmmm... at the exact same time I had Saturday Night Fever in my record collection I also had..

 

 

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/43/StarWarsOST.jpg/220px-StarWarsOST.jpg

 

 

http://www.thebestpartsofsongs.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/herbalpert.jpg

 

 

and probably my MOST favorite album at that time: http://www.free-covers.org/covers/27302.jpg

 

 

(ha.. and that's just to name a few.)

 

 

I was nothing if not "eclectic" in my musical tastes.. but I have to say, that is still pretty true nowdays too. I like a variety, I guess. (but not as much as I used to) In fact, I used to have a a lot of "greatest hits" albums from some of my fave bands back in the 80;s too.. because I had so many different ones I liked, but could not afford them all. I was on a budget so I couldn't buy every album. So I bought the GH albums so I could at least get most of my fave songs that way. I DID eventually go on to collect nearly all (but two or three) Dan Fogelberg albums (up til about 1990ish) and then I also had all of The Police and Sting albums at one time.. up until about the same time as well) but most of all my old "tunes" are all pretty much either stored away, thrown away, or given away. I haven't seen or listened to ANY of that old music in ages... some of it I don't even recall anymore and who KNOWS if I can even remember what it is I've forgotten and what I still REMEMBER these days in my old worn our brain. ha.. what can I say.. I am old and there's only so much storage space up there)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[movieman1957]

We can talk Fogelberg somewhere.

[MissGoddess]

> Oh, you've never seen *The Wild Bunch *? It's all about marriage. Well, maybe if you're married to Miss G

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> OK.. I think I see whats going on here.. Miss G.. why do I get the feeling we need to string him up.. because A) I think he is lying to me about TWB.. and I think he is NOT being very sweet to somone so sweet as you!! I'll get the frozen rope and the hat pin ready and meet you out in the mudpit and we'll lure him in and make sure he minds his manners better next time)

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Well, if I'm forced to be honest I'll say it's TRUE I am not ALWAYS very "sweet", it's not one of my cardinal attributes. But all other rope-deserving aspersions are patently false. Will Rogers has been teaching me a lot of new (rope) tricks so I'm ready for the neck-tie party when you are.

 

P.S. RE: *The Wild Bunch*, I avoided it for years, then went to see it on the big screen, and I was able to appreciate it. I still find it much too violent, however, what can I say? All those men...love each one of them, especially Ryan. I love the elegiac theme. Makes me wish I wasn't born so late.

 

P.S.S. I don't know if you've seen *The Professionals*, but *The Wild Bunch* reminds me of that movie only it's serious where TP is more of an action flick. TP is a little over-the-top in some ways, but it's growing on me.

 

 

Edited by: MissGoddess on Feb 28, 2013 10:30 AM

[MissGoddess]

> It's not that I expect it, it's that depth can vault an adventure film to a higher level with me. I do like *The Adventures of Robin Hood*. I just don't love it. And I prefer other adventure films to it because they possess some depth. I prefer a film like *The Black Swan* to it, because of Maureen O'Hara.

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so it's who's in it that influences you as well. that makes you like the rest of us.

 

> That one is coming up for me. I'm currently at the end of the 50s with Wayne. I've been working backwards. Quiet Gal has mentioned watching *Reap the Wild Wind*, so I'm going to be checking that one out.

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I like *reap the wild wind* better than some others, but it's a loooong wind, unfortunately. paulette and susan hayward are fun. well, susan plays a sweet girl, for once.

 

i remember loathing ray milland's character and not understanding why things ended as they do.

 

> It's a strange tale and that costume comes into play for a reason. Irving Pichel plays the screwy guy in *The Cheat*. He makes you feel uncomfortable, right from the start. He's playing me! He has a weird collection in the film.

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I always think of Pichel as the narrator in Ford movies. It's hard for me to remember what he looks like.

 

He also discovered Natalie Wood.

 

> *she looks and acts like a matron.*

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goodness, poor man.

 

> It's really Harpo's film. The film actually plays like an episode of Batman. Ilona Massey plays the main villain, ala Catwoman. She also has two henchman, a Batman staple. One of them is played by Raymond Burr.

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Burr is in a Marx Bros. movie? I really have to see this again!

 

> Of course, she is talking about a sleeping pill. But there's a ton of double entendres at the end of *On the Riviera*.

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That's expected with Danny Kaye movies, I think.

 

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> Did you see the "Laura" painting in the one cap?

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yes! That's what I remember most from the movie. A nice tribute to "Laura".

 

> *i thought you'd like it. you should see Cowboy next for Ford.*

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> I actually don't have that one yet.

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It shows on Encore a lot, but I don't know about TCM. They have been spare with westerns.

[movieman1957]

*Burr is in a Marx Bros. movie? I really have to see this again!*

 

And Robert Mitchum is in a Laurel and Hardy film. (The Dancing Masters.)

[MissGoddess]

> {quote:title=movieman1957 wrote:}{quote}*Burr is in a Marx Bros. movie? I really have to see this again!*

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> And Robert Mitchum is in a Laurel and Hardy film. (The Dancing Masters.)oh my goodness. i think i remember seeing that one...do they play dance instructors? i will have to look it up.

[rohanaka]

 

I'll say it's TRUE

 

 

OH pishposh, little darilin'. ha. I know better. I think it is just all that GREY that keeps creeping up you. It is HARD to be sweet ALL the time when THAT is going on.

 

 

all other rope-deserving aspersions are patently false. Will Rogers has been teaching me a lot of new (rope) tricks so I'm ready for the neck-tie party when you are

 

 

Woo HOO.. and rumor has it that I'll be getting the chance to break the Duke's giant squid back out in the near future.. ha.. if someone ends up watching the movie they TOLD me they would watch.. so we'll have a little extra "squeaze" we can add to that rope. He'll never know what hit him.

 

 

I don't know if you've seen *The Professionals*, but *The Wild Bunch* reminds me of that movie only it's serious where TP is more of an action flick. TP is a little over-the-top in some ways, but it's growing on me

 

 

I have not seen either of them.. I'll have to give them a look see sometime. All kidding aside, I don't really KNOW why I have avoided TWB.. ha. but it is just one I never really come across that often, I guess.

 

 

PS: Mr. Movieman:

 

 

We can talk Fogelberg somewhere

 

 

I remember he is a favorite for you.. ha.. Songwriting musical minds think alike! (ps.. I think.. maybe.. Captured Angel is my most fave album for him.. but its been so long since I really listened to any of that stuff.. I'd have to really think about it.)

 

 

[movieman1957]

Check the "Off Topic: Favorite Music" thread.

 

No more interruptions.

[JackFavell]

I like Reap the Wild Wind a LOT, I don't really know why. I too am mystified by the ending, but I do like Ray Milland's character. Just don't think he's the lead. The movie is all over the place, but I still enjoy it. Paulette's a lot of fun in this one, and has those gorgeous costumes to boot.

[rohanaka]

 

Hiya Jackie... it was a fun movie to revisit.. I had not seen it in so long.. way back when we started talking about Wake of the Red Witch.. I thought THAT movie was this one. ha. But they are two VERY different stories..

 

 

And yet.. I still got them confused.. ha.. because who'da thunk it.. a guy known for westerns would be in two completely separate movies where he is attacked by a GIANT SQUID!!!

 

 

[JackFavell]

I get them mixed too! In fact, I had to wait until you mentioned Susan Hayward and Paulette Goddard before I knew which one you were discussing, lol! Then I jumped in with my comment. I actually was going to tell Frank I thought he'd already seen that one and discussed it....

[MissGoddess]

i used to confuse them all the time, too. the squid thing looks a little out of place on the duke's acting resume, lol.

[rohanaka]

 

Ha.. well I feel better now if BOTH of you (Miss G and Jackie too) had the same problem with remembering which squid was which. ha. Its nice to know I am not alone!

 

 

[MissGoddess]

i was surprised to find out that *reap the wild wind* was made six years earlier than *wake of the red witch*. i guess because wotrw was in black-and-white i assumed it was the older movie. i wonder if they re-used the same squid.

[rohanaka]

 

i wonder if they re-used the same squid

 

 

Hmmmm.... maybe they were cousins... HA.

 

 

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[FrankGrimes]

Hey there, Queen of the Furies -- *Well I can't argue with that.. but I think that was a bigger problem for her little boy.. she was old enough and mature enough to sort through feelings like that (if she had to) but her son would not have handled that sort of comparison as well. I am sure that there is a lot of truth in what you are saying.. again.. I have to say... its a pretty complex story on a lot of levels.*

 

Yes, I do agree with you about that. I do think Marian was strong enough and mature enough to handle the conflicting emotions. She shows this by acknowledging it. She knew those feelings were brewing and she knew they could grow. It would be far more difficult for Joey to sort through those kind of emotions, to release them.

 

*OK.. I think I see whats going on here.. Miss G.. why do I get the feeling we need to string him up.. because A) I think he is lying to me about TWB.. and I think he is NOT being very sweet to somone so sweet as you!! I'll get the frozen rope and the hat pin ready and meet you out in the mudpit and we'll lure him in and make sure he minds his manners better next time) *

 

You don't trust me about *The Wild Bunch* being a good "marital" film? It's like The Brady Bunch, just set in the west.

 

*What????????? I said it was a "sweet story".. I can't like sweet now and then???? *

 

No! You're throwing the universe out of whack!

 

*No.. ADOLPHE is a viper... and I MAY have to get him out of his little house and have him come pay you a visit.. you are being so rotten!! What do you mean asking "Maureen is sweet??" Of COURSE she is.. Ok.. yes.. I confess she is sweet AND feisty.. but still SWEET. *

 

Grace Kelly is sweet! Maureen is like Miss G! She's a mule!

 

*And you'd be right.. ha. The guys are much easier for me to sort through than the gals when it comes to favorite actors/actresses.*

 

That's because you find "masculine" films to be more to your liking! Women are more "miss" than "hit" with you.

 

* So what is it with you and actresses*

 

 

 

*I am not sure.. but there really are just very few that I can watch and say I like almost everything I have ever seen them in (at least the ones who have leading lady status) I DO have several on my "character actress" list that I can say that for.. but not too many who tend to be the star. I think for women (more than the men) it really REALLY depends on the role.*

 

 

I think it's because you associate more with the character actresses. That's where you see more of yourself. The leads are not "you."

 

*I also should have included Loretta Young and Claudette Colbert Angela Lansbury and Theresa Wright too. Oh.. ha.. and my beloved Mildred Natwick as well. See.. I do have a lot of actresses I like.. there's probably at least five or six more I could list if I sat here long enough and thought of it. But again.. once you get past Jean and Maureen.. it really (really) just depends on the role they are playing how MUCH I like them.*

 

Mildred Natwick?! Where's Marilyn, Marlene, Ava, and Rita? And your listing of Loretta and Angela makes me wonder if you're Sweet T.

 

*They usually get the best lines and some of the best moments in a story too. ha. I do like to see a grouchy old gal put a smart alec youngun in his or her place. ha. (now why THAT would be appealing to someone like me. hmmmmmm I have NO idea!!) *

 

A-ha! Yep, you're Edna May.

 

*Ha.. well.. um... like movies, I guess I like a little "variety" with my music now and then too. ha. (or at least I DID.. way back when) You should have SEEN my "vinyl" collection way back in the late 70's and 80's. I was a MIXED bag of chaos back then for sure. Ha. (lets see..late 70's, very early 80's... hmmm... at the exact same time I had Saturday Night Fever in my record collection I also had..*

 

Herb Alpert?! What?! What in the wide, wide world of sports is going around here?! Now I'm completely stunned. I "get" Dan Fogelberg, but Herb Alpert?

 

*I was nothing if not "eclectic" in my musical tastes.. but I have to say, that is still pretty true nowdays too. I like a variety, I guess. (but not as much as I used to) In fact, I used to have a a lot of "greatest hits" albums from some of my fave bands back in the 80;s too.. because I had so many different ones I liked, but could not afford them all. I was on a budget so I couldn't buy every album. So I bought the GH albums so I could at least get most of my fave songs that way. I DID eventually go on to collect nearly all (but two or three) Dan Fogelberg albums (up til about 1990ish) and then I also had all of The Police and Sting albums at one time.. up until about the same time as well) but most of all my old "tunes" are all pretty much either stored away, thrown away, or given away. I haven't seen or listened to ANY of that old music in ages... some of it I don't even recall anymore and who KNOWS if I can even remember what it is I've forgotten and what I still REMEMBER these days in my old worn our brain. ha.. what can I say.. I am old and there's only so much storage space up there) *

 

You like The Police? So we actually share a favorite in our musical tastes. Amazing! I like pop 80s and rap, primarily.

 

My favorite song from The Police is "Every Little Thing She Does Is Magic." After that, it's "Don't Stand So Close to Me," "Spirits in the Material World, and "De Do Do Do, De Da Da Da."

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[FrankGrimes]

Good day, Muley! -- *Well, if I'm forced to be honest I'll say it's TRUE I am not ALWAYS very "sweet", it's not one of my cardinal attributes. *

 

No, you don't say!

 

*But all other rope-deserving aspersions are patently false. Will Rogers has been teaching me a lot of new (rope) tricks so I'm ready for the neck-tie party when you are.*

 

You've got quite an arsenal!

 

*P.S. RE: The Wild Bunch, I avoided it for years, then went to see it on the big screen, and I was able to appreciate it. I still find it much too violent, however, what can I say? All those men...love each one of them, especially Ryan. I love the elegiac theme. Makes me wish I wasn't born so late.*

 

Here we go again! You want to be with the carousing cowboys! So you agree with me that *The Wild Bunch* is a great "marital" film!

 

*P.S.S. I don't know if you've seen The Professionals, but The Wild Bunch reminds me of that movie only it's serious where TP is more of an action flick. TP is a little over-the-top in some ways, but it's growing on me.*

 

I think Quiet Gal would like that one. It's a fun western.

 

*so it's who's in it that influences you as well. that makes you like the rest of us. *

 

It definitely helps my enjoyment if I like the performers, yes. Robert Ryan compared to Robert Taylor is a big difference.

 

 

*I like reap the wild wind better than some others, but it's a loooong wind, unfortunately. paulette and susan hayward are fun. well, susan plays a sweet girl, for once. *

 

Look who's talking about "loooong," Scarlett! Fiddle-dee-dee!

 

 

*i remember loathing ray milland's character and not understanding why things ended as they do.*

 

That's because you like John Wayne more!

 

 

*I always think of Pichel as the narrator in Ford movies. It's hard for me to remember what he looks like.*

 

 

Well, in *The Cheat*, he looks like this:

 

 

*He also discovered Natalie Wood.*

 

 

Really? That's quite interesting.

 

*goodness, poor man.*

 

You just love Celeste.

 

 

*Burr is in a Marx Bros. movie? I really have to see this again!*

 

He plays the "muscle." Harpo is so much fun.

 

 

*That's expected with Danny Kaye movies, I think.*

 

Kaye is naughty? Really? I may like him a lot, then!

[JackFavell]

You and I share a favorite Police song.

 

1. Every Little Thing She Does is Magic

2. Spirits in the Material World

3. Invisible Sun

4.Can't Stand Losing You

5. Canary in a Coalmine

6. Da Doo Doo Doo

7. Walking on the Moon

8. Miss Gradenko

[FrankGrimes]

*You and I share a favorite Police song.*

 

How cool! I'm mostly familiar with their 80s singles.

 

 

I was always someone who liked singles but never really bought albums. I didn't do that until I got into rap music in the mid-to-late 80s. With the 80s, I was all about the weekly top 40 countdown and MTV. I loved all of that.

 

 

I'm trying to think of what the first album I ever got would be. It would have to be a cassette. You know, it may actually be Olivia Newton-John's greatest hits. I was infatuated with her. I know I got Hall & Oates' "Big Bam Boom." I also had a girl in school record their "H2O" for me. That was in fifth grade. I also had the *Breakin'* soundtrack and Janet Jackson's "Control." I can't remember if my brother bought "1999" or I did. I loved that album. I know he bought "Thriller."

 

 

What I did buy quite a few of were 45s. I loved getting those. I started getting those in 1980. Off the top of my head, I remember:

 

Let Me Love You Tonight - Pure Prairie League

The Devil Went Down to Georgia - Charlie Daniels Band

Poison Arrow - ABC

The Safety Dance - Men Without Hats

Another One Bites the Dust - The Queen

De Do Do Do, De Da Da Da - The Police

She Blinded Me with Science - Thomas Dolby

The Curly Shuffle - Jump n' the Saddle

Pac-Man Fever - Buckner & Garcia

Rock the Casbah - The Clash

The Eye of the Tiger - Survivor

Magic - Olivia Newton-John

Thriller - Michael Jackson

*** on Feel the Noize - Quiet Riot

Our House - Madness

Goody Two Shoes - Adam Ant

Funkytown - Lipps Inc.

 

Do you remember your first album(s)?