FrankGrimes Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 Good evening, Queen of the Furies -- *Wow.. I go away for a day or two.. and look at all the fun I missed. ha. I wish I had more time to go in and read all the posts in depth.. but will have to wait to do that later.* March was a month that didn't allot me much time. I should be around more, now. *Woo HOO, I love when you do that, Mr. Grey. So many of your choices are films that I have not seen before. And while I can go in and look up the movies and see what they are about on other sites.. it is fun for me to get YOUR reasons (for why you liked them and how you rated them)* Thank you. I'll look to do that with each group. I'm such a slow writer that it actually takes me a couple hours to write my thoughts. *MOST of the ones on this recent list are the ones I have not seen yet. So will look forward to reading up on them all.* If you've got any suggestions for me to watch, please post them. I'll try to watch them. *(PS.. Glad the "wrong" Duke was at least somewhat to your liking. ha. It was a bit of a different sort of role for him, wasn't it?)* It was! I was not expecting *Reap the Wild Wind* to play as it does. I know this feeling!: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankGrimes Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 Here is what I have most recently watched: Abilene Town Adventure in Sahara ... And God Created Woman Another Language Beware, My Lovely Big Jim McLain Cause for Alarm! Chandu the Magician City Without Men The Conqueror Dancing Lady Days of Wine and Roses The Devil at 4 O'Clock Dillinger Dr. Renault's Secret Gun the Man Down Half a Sinner Heaven with a Barbed Wire Fence The House on 92nd Street How to Steal a Million Jet Pilot Love Nest Magnificent Obsession (1954) The Man from the Alamo The Man Who Never Was Mexican Hayride Montana Personal Property Satan Met a Lady A Slight Case of Murder Thirty Day Princess Torch Singer Vicki War Arrow Woman on the Run How do you (anyone) like those films? What are your thoughts on those films? Any idea on my top ten? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
movieman1957 Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 I've seen a few. I see your going through the "lesser" Wayne pictures. Oh, my. *Abilene Town.* As you know I love westerns and with Scott you usually get serviceable though seldom great pictures. That begins to change when Boetticher shows up. Some of them are almost interchangeable but they're okay. *Days of Wine and Roses.* I think Lemmon is marvelous. It's a tough film to watch but I think extremely well done. Good though it may be it is not one you come back to too often. The greenhouse scene left its mark on me. *The Man From The Alamo.* Another "perception is everything" picture. Ford has done nothing wrong and in fact did what he was told but because he had been from the Alamo and survived there must be something wrong. I enjoyed it and thought Ford was good trying to clear himself. *The Man Who Never Was.* Based on a true story this is a pretty good story that doesn't quite come off as well as I would have hoped. I don't know whether it's Webb or a bit slow but it is an interesting story. *Montana.* Ordinary late Flynn. Compact though. As far as the Wayne pictures go this is probably the low point of his work since his 1930's B films. The story behind "Jet Pilot" is more interesting than the film. "The Conquerer" has its own legend. "Big Jim McLain" is a low end anticommunist film that is so stuck in that time that it has not lived well since. Wayne had more discrepency in the 50's than anywhere else. Among these weak films are some good films that helped the legend grow. I've seen a few others though not as many as usual. The trouble is those I have seen have mostly been so long ago that I could start them again. Your keeping busy is certainly keeping us busy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SansFin Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 *... And God Created Woman* (1956) I like this movie but I do not understand those who rave for it. *Another Language* (1933) I hoped it would be much more than it is. *Chandu the Magician* (1932) I found this a neat little movie. *Dr. Renault's Secret* (1942) I liked this. *The House on 92nd Street* (1945) I found this movie to be a bit odd. I liked it even although there were many reasons I should not. *How to Steal a Million* (1966) I am sorry to say I do not know your tastes so well as to make predictions but I know that you do not like this movie as greatly as I do. I often think of it as my favorite of all time movie. There is no part of it which is not perfect. *Satan Met a Lady* (1936) I believe I am one of six people in the world who prefer this movie above the remake. *Thirty Day Princess* (1934) I found it nice. *Vicki* (1953) I believe I would have liked it very much more if the cast had been different. *Woman on the Run* (1950) An odd little noir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFavell Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 ohmigosh you watched Dancing Lady and Torch Singer? Talk about torture! You really do like tormented. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFavell Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 > {quote:title=FrankGrimes wrote:}{quote}You were on quite late the other night, Denver! I was on a roll! > That's a shame. So it's about how long you spend on-line? You're burning it up! No it's not really about how long I'm on, it just crashes if I open another link, or I want to look at a photo on a thread, or if I open another tab, or if I try to watch a youtube video. Andrew's set me up with a different laptop, but all my bookmarks and the tabs I kept open to remind me to reply to people are gone. And all my photos. > I do like her "Melanie." She's calm, caring, and considerate. What I've seen of Olivia: > > > 1. Hush... Hush, Sweet Charlotte > 2. Lady in a Cage > 3. Gone with the Wind > 4. Light in the Piazza > 5. The Adventures of Robin Hood > 6. The Proud Rebel > 7. The Heiress > 8. The Snake Pit > 9. Hold Back the Dawn > 10. Captain Blood > 11. The Male Animal > 12. Not as a Stranger > 13. My Cousin Rachel > 14. The Dark Mirror > > > I guess I like her older. That's interesting. I wish you would try The Strawberry Blonde. I think it plays to her strengths while actually addressing the reasons you don't care for her much. I think there's a warmth underneath, but if you don't see that, then I can't imagine you would like her. She's not my favorite, but I do feel somewhat protective of her as you tell me you don't care for her. How does she rate compared to her sister with you? > She is a little similar to Grace. I guess the difference is I've seen Grace being playful. I also love when Grace pouts. Olivia may be too reserved for me. I don't find her to be too accessible. My two favorite films of hers feature her being devilish and being tortured. Ah so it's that she is too controlled. > *I tried to find A Hole in the Head last time, but wasn't able to. I remember it vaguely, I liked it but I can't really bring any specifics to mind. I love Walter Abel.* > > > Oh, I'm sorry. I thought you were familiar with the film. I saw it a very long time ago. I remember it being very good, but I don't remember any specifics. Just the broadest outline of it. > Do you pay for a movie service such as Netflix? Yes.. and they have it, but I have to wait to get it in the mail, after I finish the ones I have now, in fact I just bumped it up in my queue. > Definitely. But you'd love and respect him, so I think you'd come to appreciate his concern for you. Yes, I would have, and I would have apologized and seen his wisdom after the fact, not that after does me any good! > I call such people "chameleons." They are always changing for the approval of another. They never have their own colors. Whoever is winning, that's who they are for. Like me on this thread! > Cowardice comes from fear. It would be very difficult to stand up to an angry mob and say you were the guilty one. But when it's your own daughter, you'd think you'd do it even if it wasn't you. There's no doubting that he was a tragic figure, a creation of his own. Ultimately what I got from the film was this question. Are people their actions? Or is there more to them than that? Are they something else too? I think so. Are there always going to be extenuating circumstances in anything someone does? yes. > All good questions. I'm certainly not sure. I do like Doryan as emotionless. He's warm with the physical but cold with the emotional. He's terribly damaged. I like the choice to have him emotionless too, but I wish I could see Lean's hand there, not that the actor might not be very good. I've never seen Christopher Jones in anything else, that I know of. I'd like to, just to ease my mind on this point. > That's always up to the individual. Can a person change what brings them happiness in life? Can Rosy take initiative with Charles, almost teaching him to love her in a way she desires? All of that takes time and effort. And none of it may feel natural. It would be difficult. > I'd say a child would bring them together. That would be the next step for Rosy as a woman after having a schoolgirl crush and then a passionate affair. Without a child, I think Rosy would remain restless and in search of stimulation. She could share her feelings and desires with Charles, but that takes courage. I think a child would be the worst thing. Rosy's just a child herself, she needs a bit of the world, a nicer world than the one she's been in, before she really makes the commitment to settle down. I think Charles knows that, he needs to allow her to be a bit free... you know, like that saying, If you love something set it free? She's seen him now, for his real self, which is kind and loyal. Now she needs to be given free reign to come back to him of her own accord. Talk about stifling... she'd suffocate with a child immediately and no freedom. > THE COUNTRY GIRL IS SPOILED > > > I didn't like that their son just wandered away from Frank and then was killed. It didn't feel natural. It seemed like a dramatic plot device and only that. I don't think we're supposed to like it. I thought it seemed very real, true to life. Maybe the actual scene wasn't done well? I don't remember it perfectly, but I could see this happening easily. It happens all the time with abductions... the parents usually end up divorcing because of the stress and blame. > You and Miss G have set me up for this one. I'm expecting some craziness. I hope you like it. I prefer Rebel, but they both have something different to say to kids growing up at that time. > I think pop culture played a big difference with the generation gap, even in the 50s. Pop culture seemingly took off in the 50s. Television is arguably the greatest reason why. That's probably very true. > That's for sure! And I'm the sweet and innocent one! Uh huh, That's right, Chino. > You are correct, I haven't seen that one. And I do believe dreamers do create problems for themselves and then others. Those who need adventure tend to be restless. You would love Man in the White Suit. It's just a great film. One of my all time faves. > And that would be Charles and not Doryan. Doryan would be the needy one in a relationship. He would be moody and unpredictable. Charles is one speed and completely predictable. Both are flawed men, but Charles is going to be the more reliable one. Yes, and Rosy learned her lesson, I do believe. She got burned, and somehow through that pain, she was fortunate enough to see Charles worth at last. At least I think so. > So do you understand Rosy's actions? How would you approach her situation if you were in her shoes? I absolutely understand her actions, I am very much like her. I don't know how I would approach the situation, but for a while she's going to be very tender.. sore at heart if you know what I mean. I think Charles will have to be careful of her. He's actually the exact RIGHT person for her to be with at this time, after her public humiliation. Aha, I just remembered what story it reminds me of.... Jane Austen's Sense and Sensibility. The younger sister in that falls for a young hot blooded fellow, who turns out to be callow... and she slowly very slowly over time turns to the man who loved her all along, A quiet, older man, who she couldn't see before. Rosy is lucky, she has had her eyes opened (by force unhappily) to Charles' best qualities. > I think most people are that way. Lots and lots of hiding. I only show myself when I'm really hurting. I'm a firm believer in talking things out. I believe in the release. But there are two parts to that equation. The other side is who you open up to. Do they care about you and what you are saying? For example, my country grandma is a poor sounding board. She's quick to say, "things will work out." That leaves me empty. Some people just cannot handle the problems of another, so they quickly push them away with "scripted" words. I need some depth. Yes, that's been my experience too. It's hard to find anyone actually sympathetic. Most are just "Get on with it!". > What I've seen of Walsh: > > > 1. High Sierra > 2. The Roaring Twenties > 3. Desperate Journey > 4. White Heat > 5. Big Brown Eyes > 6. Colorado Territory > 7. The Big Trail > 8. Northern Pursuit > 9. Pursued > 10. They Drive by Night > 11. The Tall Men > 12. The King and Four Queens > 13. Me and My Gal > 14. Dark Command > > > The top two films are full of great emotion. I feel the emotion isn't nearly as strong in the rest of the films. But Walsh really is about adventure. Wow! I had no idea you'd seen so many! Yes, I like emotion as well. That's what I look for. And I think most of his films don't fit themselves to this emotional core... they were a job of work to him. This is why I think you might like The Strawberry Blonde, not to keep harping on it. Also What Price Glory, and perhaps, Uncertain Glory, though that one is all over the place story wise and character wise. > Columbo is more of a "howdunnit"? That's great! Oh it's wonderful. You know who did it all along. Just have to figure out how to catch them out. > Oh, I don't think he's a bad man, but he's angry and looking to ruin Stephen (John Wayne) because he's lost his girl to him. That's what reminded me of *The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance*. That's how Doniphon starts out with Ranse. Yes, it makes him more attractive, I think, not less. He's a more layered character. Perhaps this was a leap for him in some ways, a brdge between the old Wayne and the new. His really great roles all seem to have some ambivalence, good and bad included in the character. This is what surprised me the most about Wayne once I really started looking at him as an actor. Extraordinary for a western star to develop in such a way, adding a touch of the villain to the hero. It's wonderful. > I think he's all right. But he's not my kind of leading man, no. I like him best in *The Talk of the Town*. Oh he's wonderful in that. Another rivalry between passion and staid loyalty, like Ryan's Daughter. > Terrific! I'll watch it for the next group. Yay! > I agree with you. Light is rarely revered and Clair does light exceptionally well. He's perfection. like candy, he's so light. So enjoyable... and yet his films really do say something, at least the early ones do. A serious theme done with the lightest touch... like Lubitsch. > And I'd reverse the feelings for those two films. But I do like them both. I think I was so looking forward to *And Then There Were None*, I mean I waited for years to see it.,,, that it couldn't live up to the hype I gave it in my mind. > Ooops! I forgot to reply to that. No, I haven't seen *The Strawberry Blonde*. I'll check it out. It has Rita! I like your usage of the word "sincere" with Olivia. Rita is just exceptional in this one, and it has Jack Carson in it. The only thing you might not like is Cagney as an underdog and the setting. I find it's a movie I go back to and discover far more depth than I ever remembered. It's a kind of a sad film. About growing up and discovering those romantic ideals are not good for us... like Ryans' Daughter. > Sometimes it takes a war! I'll say! > That made me laugh! I completely understand your feelings. Who wants to be drained? But I do like some "kitchen sink." Usually the American kind. I didn't go for *Term of Trial*, though. I was surprised by it's humor at the end, and I liked the acting. I liked the question left up in the air at the end. Some of the kitchen sinkers I like are The 400 Blows -one of the most perfect, heartbreaking, and frightening films ever made. It's one of the truly great films. The Entertainer - just devastating. Again, not a fun watch. This Sporting Life - I don't know what is different about this one that makes me like it more than some of the others... it doesn't seem like such a chore to get through. Billy Liar - this one has some cringe inducing moments for me, but gosh, Tom Courtenay is wonderful! It's way too close to the way I used to be when I was a kid. I probably won't watch when it's on, because it's upsetting, but he's really REALLY good. > But I just want steamy love scenes! There's a nice scene in the bathtub for you. Plenty of steam... > Probably Father Time. I think Ginger was more relaxed and comfortable when she was younger. I think Ginger's ambition got in the way of her self knowledge. She's so good at the light, and yet she was always striving to play more than that. She got kind of full of herself it seems. She thought of herself as a star and once she started being more in control, the less I like her. I can't bear her in some films later on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFavell Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 I made the mistake (or was it?) of watching the live kinescope of *Days of Wine and Roses* before I saw the film with Lemmon and Remick. I greatly prefer the TV version which came first. They fleshed the movie out, but in doing so they lost or flattened out a really cutting and harsh quality that I like about the story. The TV version is worth watching too, especially for Piper Laurie's INCREDIBLE performance. Great, GREAT acting. It's got guts. And they did it live! http://strangerintown.podcastpeople.com/posts/35834 *Beware my Lovely* is my single favorite Robert Ryan performance. The movie on the whole is probably not as good as the acting is in it, but I love to watch Ida and Robert play cat and mouse. It's REALLY suspenseful, and somehow, you end up feeling sorry for Ryan. For me, it's a towering performance, and I like that it's just the two of them, no dilution of the two stars. Ida is perfect, Ryan is perfect. I love it. Very curious to hear your reactions to *Another Language*. I really like it, there's a very modern outlook to the movie, despite it's precode old fashionedness. I love *How to Steal A Million*, but then there isn't a heist movie I don't like. I adore Hugh Griffith, and Peter O'Toole ain't bad either. I love the settings. Lots of fun and it turns out perfectly. *Torch Singer* is the only Joan Crawford movie that literally embarrasses me to watch it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissGoddess Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 Vicki (1953) I believe I would have liked it very much more if the cast had been different. SansFin: The cast included Betty Grable, Victor Mature and Laird Cregar in the 1941 original (I Wake Up Screaming). The remake is very tepid in comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissGoddess Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 > She was really pushing it in *Black Widow*. She's playing Bette Davis' "Margo" with too much gusto. It became a carricature. > that is a good description and "Margo" came to my mind, only i like Bette acting childishly diva-ish whereas Ginger can seem so utterly lacking in self-awareness, like Jackie said. Maybe Lela (her mother) brainwashed her for so long to be an overachiever that she finally accomplished it. > I liked Ginger in *Perfect Strangers*. I thought she was quite good. The film just didn't come together. I don't like Ginger in *Monkey Business* and *We're Not Married!*. > I don't remember her in *We're Not Married*, wow---so that's two she did with Marilyn (who is the best thing about both movies). > *Tight Spot is one of the few where I thought she was okay.* > > I haven't seen that one, yet. Another I thought you'd seen! I really like that one. Brian Keith has nothing to do with that, of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissGoddess Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 Torch Singer is the only Joan Crawford movie that literally embarrasses me to watch it. Jackie, I'm hoping he means Torch Singer (1933) with Claudette (which I like) and not Torch Song (1953) which I find unwatchable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissGoddess Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 more and more your lists are containing movies i never saw or barely remember! > > Abilene Town This is one of the Randolph Scott movies that blurrs into his multitudes of westerns. I can't recollect anything about it. > Adventure in Sahara Either I never saw it or don't remember anything about it. > ... And God Created Woman I actually enjoy the scenery in this movie more than anything, but I'm a girl! How I wish Saint Tropez was still like that. > Another Language I like it; it's creaky in places but a nice attempt at examining some age-old marriage conflicts (with an early 20th century spin). > Beware, My Lovely I've tried and wanted to like this movie so much, and for all the reasons that Jackie eloquently listed, but the last two times I watched it was disappointing and I felt no sympathy for Ryan. I will give it another chance, though---I'm sure I am underrating it. > Big Jim McLain Like Chris said, it's dated and heavy handed but I love the setting (Hawaii). > Cause for Alarm! An interesting suspenser with Loretta Young and a very venomous Barry Sullivan. It manages to have made me pretty anxious about the mail! > Chandu the Magician I think I have this on DVD but I don't believe I've ever seen it. > City Without Men It's about Manhattan, right? > The Conqueror I've never seen it all the way through. > Dancing Lady I like it okay for the cast and what may have been Fred Astaire's first movie appearance (you even get the 3 stooges), but I can't see you liking it at all! It's one of the slew of backstage musicals that were all the craze. > Days of Wine and Roses A terrific film but very heavy. I like Lee, especially in the first part, and found Charles Bickford very touching. Have to add that this is one of the most lovely movie theme songs ever. Just beautiful. > The Devil at 4 O'Clock Disappointing. > Dillinger With Larry Tierney? I didn't care for it, I may have not even seen it all the way through. > Dr. Renault's Secret It sounds intriguing. > Gun the Man Down You're ahead of me! I still haven't gotten it from ClassicFlix (it says "short wait"). > Half a Sinner Is this about a magic act?! You have what looks like a lot of pre-codes included this time. > Heaven with a Barbed Wire Fence I thought this was cute. > The House on 92nd Street I get all these houses on numbered streets movies confused. I think I have seen it. > How to Steal a Million A favorite from the 60s, very breezy. Not quite as good as Charade (what is?) but Peter O'Toole definitely surprised me by handling romantic comedy very well. I never would have thought he could be that kind of player. > Jet Pilot You have to see it to believe how bad it is, ha! Janet's wardrobe is far out, ahem. > Love Nest I don't remember this little Monroe movie too well. > Magnificent Obsession (1954) I don't like it as much as *All That Heaven Allows*, but it is a handsome production and very much what I come to associate with Sirk's style. His use of color is a pleasure to watch. > The Man from the Alamo I like this Glenn Ford western. I had never heard that story, either...and I grew up in Texas! > The Man Who Never Was I have never seen this movie. It sounds like odd casting. > Mexican Hayride I'm sure I saw this A&C movie when I was a kid. > Montana I haven't seen it or don't remember this particular Flynn western. > Personal Property This is a vapid remake of a rather charming drawing room comedy which Robert Montgomery made in the early 1930s, called *The Man in Possession*. The earlier one has sparkle and vivacity, not so of the remake. > Satan Met a Lady I saw this version of *The Maltese Falcon* once a long, long time ago and don't remember it well enough to comment. I only recollect it seemed like just one of many 1930s potboilers of the period---enjoyable, but not up to the verve of the Huston film. > A Slight Case of Murder I either never saw it or don't remember. > Thirty Day Princess Never saw it. > Torch Singer I prefer Claudette's precode movies like this one; it's not much different from hundreds of others but I enjoy it. > Vicki As I wrote Sansfin, this is another disappointing remake of a better film. > War Arrow Another I don't remember/never saw. But I like both Jeff Chandler and Maureen O'Hara so I would like to catch it. > Woman on the Run > I liked this little "noir"! Annie and Dennis O'Keefe as a very uneasy married couple, made worse by the fact that he's on the lam. Good location shots, too----San Francisco, I think it was, right? > How do you (anyone) like those films? What are your thoughts on those films? Any idea on my top ten? > I'll have to think about your ten since I haven't seen many of them. Edited by: MissGoddess on Apr 9, 2013 12:26 PM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFavell Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 > {quote:title=MissGoddess wrote:}{quote} > > She was really pushing it in *Black Widow*. She's playing Bette Davis' "Margo" with too much gusto. It became a carricature. > that is a good description and "Margo" came to my mind, only i like Bette acting childishly diva-ish whereas Ginger can seem so utterly lacking in self-awareness, like Jackie said. Maybe Lela (her mother) brainwashed her for so long to be an overachiever that she finally accomplished it. I think you are totally on mark with your words about Lela. I get the feeling that she pushed Ginger until she became strained with the effort, rising to what she thought were great heights of drama or a higher kind of comedy. It's too bad, she's really so perfect as she is - when she's not striving. >Torch Singer is the only Joan Crawford movie that literally embarrasses me to watch it. >Jackie, I'm hoping he means Torch Singer (1933) with Claudette (which I like) and not Torch Song (1953) which I find unwatchable. Oh of course! Thanks for the correction...I was so stupid, I must have had Joan on the brain with the mention of Dancing Lady, and Frank has been watching a lot of great later Joan flicks lately. you know, I had Torch Singer bookmarked online for months at youtube, and never watched. I really want to give it a look, I don't think I've ever seen it. I really like Colbert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissGoddess Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 you know, I had Torch Singer bookmarked online for months at youtube, and never watched. I really want to give it a look, I don't think I've ever seen it. I really like Colbert. i think you might enjoy it; its storyline is typical of the period but I liked it. ricardo cortez livens things up, from what i remember, playing his usual rapscallion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFavell Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 > {quote:title=MissGoddess wrote:}{quote} ricardo cortez SOLD! I'll go and find it right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankGrimes Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 Bonjour, Jacqueline! -- *I was on a roll!* And you still are! You've been excellent. *No it's not really about how long I'm on, it just crashes if I open another link, or I want to look at a photo on a thread, or if I open another tab, or if I try to watch a youtube video.* That could be your hard drive. I had issues where the videos on YouTube couldn't play and it ended up being my drive. *Andrew's set me up with a different laptop, but all my bookmarks and the tabs I kept open to remind me to reply to people are gone. And all my photos.* You could probably copy your drive over. *That's interesting. I wish you would try The Strawberry Blonde. I think it plays to her strengths while actually addressing the reasons you don't care for her much. I think there's a warmth underneath, but if you don't see that, then I can't imagine you would like her. She's not my favorite, but I do feel somewhat protective of her as you tell me you don't care for her. How does she rate compared to her sister with you?* Oh, no, no. I actually think well of Olivia as an actress. It's just when it comes to love and romance, she can fall short for me. I think she's lovely in *The Proud Rebel*. That's the Olivia I really like. I actually have Olivia ranked 58th on my favorite actress list and Joan is 59th. They used to be in my top 50 and I used to have Joan ahead of Olivia. But I've found new favorites that pushed them out. Joan plays the "sweet, shy girl who is in over head" so very well. I like that... most of the time. Olivia is quite the opposite. She's usually playing a mature woman, even when she's younger. *Ah so it's that she is too controlled.* That could very well be it. Deborah Kerr is someone I'd compare to Olivia. But I find Deborah to be the warm side of the coin and Olivia is the cold side. It could even be Olivia's eyes that give me the cold feeling, believe it or not. Deborah seems so inviting. Grace is so beautiful that her icy feel ends up appealing to me. But all three are "ladies." *Yes.. and they have it, but I have to wait to get it in the mail, after I finish the ones I have now, in fact I just bumped it up in my queue.* Terrific! *Yes, I would have, and I would have apologized and seen his wisdom after the fact, not that after does me any good! * But once a person would establish themselves with you as a trusted voice, I think you would be okay listening to them. You may disagree, but at least you'd hear them and care to hear them. *Like me on this thread! * You are winning! Or are you saying you're a chameleon? *Ultimately what I got from the film was this question.* *Are people their actions? Or is there more to them than that? Are they something else too? I think so. Are there always going to be extenuating circumstances in anything someone does? yes.* Welcome to grey. Sometimes it's a situation that causes a person's actions, sometimes it's one's personality. With Rosy's father, it was his personality. *I like the choice to have him emotionless too, but I wish I could see Lean's hand there, not that the actor might not be very good. I've never seen Christopher Jones in anything else, that I know of. I'd like to, just to ease my mind on this point.* *I think a child would be the worst thing. Rosy's just a child herself, she needs a bit of the world, a nicer world than the one she's been in, before she really makes the commitment to settle down. I think Charles knows that, he needs to allow her to be a bit free... you know, like that saying, If you love something set it free? She's seen him now, for his real self, which is kind and loyal. Now she needs to be given free reign to come back to him of her own accord. Talk about stifling... she'd suffocate with a child immediately and no freedom.* You're probably right. The reason why I feel a child would help Rosy is that she needs to develop a relationship with someone else. I feel a woman and her child is a special kind of relationship. It would allow her to share a love with Charles, too. The danger of a child is that a woman can feel smothered by the responsibility. Ultimately, Rosy needs to find some relationships away from her husband. But not ones like she had! *I don't think we're supposed to like it. * Smarty! *I thought it seemed very real, true to life. Maybe the actual scene wasn't done well? I don't remember it perfectly, but I could see this happening easily. It happens all the time with abductions... the parents usually end up divorcing because of the stress and blame.* It just seemed to be too easy, too convenient. It played as a "false note" with me. *Uh huh, That's right, Chino.* Chino?! *You would love Man in the White Suit. It's just a great film. One of my all time faves.* I may look into getting the Alec Guinness collection with it. It's pretty affordable. *Yes, and Rosy learned her lesson, I do believe. She got burned, and somehow through that pain, she was fortunate enough to see Charles worth at last. At least I think so.* I have a hard time reading Rosy at the end. I don't know if she is resigned to her situation or has learned a lesson or what. *I absolutely understand her actions, I am very much like her. I don't know how I would approach the situation, but for a while she's going to be very tender.. sore at heart if you know what I mean. I think Charles will have to be careful of her. He's actually the exact RIGHT person for her to be with at this time, after her public humiliation. Aha, I just remembered what story it reminds me of.... Jane Austen's Sense and Sensibility. The younger sister in that falls for a young hot blooded fellow, who turns out to be callow... and she slowly very slowly over time turns to the man who loved her all along, A quiet, older man, who she couldn't see before. Rosy is lucky, she has had her eyes opened (by force unhappily) to Charles' best qualities.* Geez, *Sense and Sensibility* may actually be a Jane Austen story I'd like! You are right, Charles is the kind of man that allows for Rosy to find herself. Can she do this within a marriage, and contribute to the marriage in a happy way? Or will Rosy just sit in the "sin bin," feeling she did wrong and her punishment is her marriage to Charles? *Wow! I had no idea you'd seen so many!* You think that's a good total? I feel I'm still lacking with Walsh. I'm now watching some Errol Flynn, so that will help boost my Walsh watching. *Yes, I like emotion as well. That's what I look for. And I think most of his films don't fit themselves to this emotional core... they were a job of work to him. This is why I think you might like The Strawberry Blonde, not to keep harping on it. Also What Price Glory, and perhaps, Uncertain Glory, though that one is all over the place story wise and character wise.* You're setting me up for trouble with *The Strawberry Blonde* ! Other than that film, what do you think is the best "Walsh" film I've yet to see? *Oh it's wonderful. You know who did it all along. Just have to figure out how to catch them out.* I never knew that. That does make the show pretty interesting to me. *Yes, it makes him more attractive, I think, not less. He's a more layered character. Perhaps this was a leap for him in some ways, a brdge between the old Wayne and the new. His really great roles all seem to have some ambivalence, good and bad included in the character. This is what surprised me the most about Wayne once I really started looking at him as an actor. Extraordinary for a western star to develop in such a way, adding a touch of the villain to the hero. It's wonderful.* That's a fantastic description! I really liked your "adding a touch of the villain to the hero." When Wayne is at his very best, that has been the case. *Oh he's wonderful in that. Another rivalry between passion and staid loyalty, like Ryan's Daughter.* Very good! *He's perfection. like candy, he's so light. So enjoyable... and yet his films really do say something, at least the early ones do. A serious theme done with the lightest touch... like Lubitsch.* I also like that Clair can be fantastical. *I think I was so looking forward to And Then There Were None, I mean I waited for years to see it.,,, that it couldn't live up to the hype I gave it in my mind.* That does surprise me. I had just recently watched the Sherlock Holmes take on "The Ten Little Indians," and I had liked it. I thought *And Then There Were None* was even better. What really helps are the great performers in the film. They are magnificent. I also loved how dark the film was, yet its presentation was light. *Rita is just exceptional in this one, and it has Jack Carson in it. The only thing you might not like is Cagney as an underdog and the setting. I find it's a movie I go back to and discover far more depth than I ever remembered. It's a kind of a sad film. About growing up and discovering those romantic ideals are not good for us... like Ryans' Daughter.* Hmmmmm, now that really appeals to me. *I was surprised by it's humor at the end, and I liked the acting. I liked the question left up in the air at the end.* I'm trying to figure out how Graham (Laurence Olivier) and Anna (Simone Signoret) ended up together! Talk about opposites. *The 400 Blows -one of the most perfect, heartbreaking, and frightening films ever made. It's one of the truly great films.* I know it by title only. Your words have greatly piqued my interest. *The Entertainer - just devastating. Again, not a fun watch.* *This Sporting Life - I don't know what is different about this one that makes me like it more than some of the others... it doesn't seem like such a chore to get through.* *Billy Liar - this one has some cringe inducing moments for me, but gosh, Tom Courtenay is wonderful! It's way too close to the way I used to be when I was a kid. I probably won't watch when it's on, because it's upsetting, but he's really REALLY good.* I'm unfamiliar with *The Entertainer*. I recorded *Billy Liar* because the write-up appealed to me. *There's a nice scene in the bathtub for you. Plenty of steam...* I don't want the steam there! *I think Ginger's ambition got in the way of her self knowledge. She's so good at the light, and yet she was always striving to play more than that. She got kind of full of herself it seems. She thought of herself as a star and once she started being more in control, the less I like her. I can't bear her in some films later on.* I don't know anything about Ginger's personality or her mother. I'm sure what you and Miss G say probably rings true. It really is amazing to see how different her early work (effortless and natural) is compared to her later work (forced). *I made the mistake (or was it?) of watching the live kinescope of Days of Wine and Roses before I saw the film with Lemmon and Remick. I greatly prefer the TV version which came first. They fleshed the movie out, but in doing so they lost or flattened out a really cutting and harsh quality that I like about the story. The TV version is worth watching too, especially for Piper Laurie's INCREDIBLE performance. Great, GREAT acting. It's got guts. And they did it live!* I'm gonna have to check it out. I did know the Playhouse presentation did come first. *Beware my Lovely is my single favorite Robert Ryan performance. The movie on the whole is probably not as good as the acting is in it, but I love to watch Ida and Robert play cat and mouse. It's REALLY suspenseful, and somehow, you end up feeling sorry for Ryan. For me, it's a towering performance, and I like that it's just the two of them, no dilution of the two stars. Ida is perfect, Ryan is perfect. I love it.* That's the perfect description of the film. My feelings match what you said. But my overall feeling with the film matches Miss G's. But Robert Ryan is truly amazing in the film. What a pained, horrifying, sympathetic performance. *Very curious to hear your reactions to Another Language. I really like it, there's a very modern outlook to the movie, despite it's precode old fashionedness.* Uh-oh. *I love How to Steal A Million, but then there isn't a heist movie I don't like. I adore Hugh Griffith, and Peter O'Toole ain't bad either. :DI love the settings. Lots of fun and it turns out perfectly.* It's certainly very "Audrey." *Torch Singer is the only Joan Crawford movie that literally embarrasses me to watch it.* After reading your comment about *Torch Song* and then Miss G's comment, I now must watch it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SansFin Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 > {quote:title=MissGoddess wrote:}{quote}*Vicki (1953)* > *I believe I would have liked it very much more if the cast had been different.* > The cast included Betty Grable, Victor Mature and Laird Cregar in the 1941 original (*I Wake Up Screaming*). The remake is very tepid in comparison. I thank you for that information. It is sad to say that Victor Mature fails to inspire any great emotions in me. I believe it must be better than the remake but I will continue to wish for Dana Andrews in the lead. I do not in general like Dana Andrews but he is excellent in the niche of driven noir tec. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SansFin Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 > {quote:title=JackFavell wrote:}{quote} > > What's going on with your computer? > > It's just not working right. It's not a virus, it's just starting to go kaput. I think it's the memory. Every time I get online for a little while, it crashes. I have learned that there is an excellent way to determine if such problems are a fault of hardware or of software. It is to use Unbuntu. To do this requires downloading it which lasts nearly an hour and then burning it to a DVD or installing on a flash drive. You can then run your computer under it rather than under Windows. It is then obvious if the problems you are experiencing are caused by the computer or by Windows. This does not affect your Windows operating system or software in any way. I am in the process of making a new Ubuntu boot drive because I like the games which come standard with most Linux installs and I will be happy to guide you through the process if you wish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronxgirl48 Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 Buona sera, Franco! Wow, you've been tearing through a LOT of movies! I've got to keep up, lol! You think I'm literate? Ha! Thanks for that, but I'm just the Poe and Lovecraft girl. No tornado for us; just a day of moderately severe thunderstorms, mild wind, and then, thankfully, the sunshine once more. I'm sure Jim Cantore was disappointed... I'm not a fan of "serious" Bing -- THE COUNTRY GIRL, GOING MY WAY, etc. etc. He just tends to get me extremely depressed. But when his fellow Road-ster Bob gets embroiled in dramatic situations, I'm less uncomfortable. Teen angst in general doesn't bother me (I highly recommend UP THE DOWN STAIRCASE, one of my all-time favorites, and a real nostalgia trip down New Yawk memory lane...) but I've never gotten the whole James Dean thing. He does nothing for me; I get a kind of poseur feeling with him, whereas I'm genuinely moved by Sal Mineo in REBEL. Speaking of David Lean, I highly recommend BLITHE SPIRIT. Veddy British, very Noel Coward, and Margaret Rutherford is (as usual) wonderful. I don't know why I can't really remember VACATION FROM MARRIAGE, but my favorite Donat is KNIGHT WITHOUT ARMOUR. I've never seen Marlene so vulnerable; he really brings this quality out in her. Max Showalter, lol. This is Casey Adams, right? He spoofs his maniacal chucklehead image in LORD LOVE A DUCK. (the shopping scenes with Tuesday Weld) I'm glad to hear that BULLETS OR BALLOTS is serious! Although I do like my Runyonesque types, too. It's probably the "Ruritania" factor that keeps me away from THE PRISONER OF ZENDA. Mythical kingdoms just don't cut it for me, lol. I prefer my Britophila in a more "modern" vein -- Sherlock Holmes, '40's and '50's David Lean, the Ealing comedies, Powell/Pressburger, and any number of murder mysteries. I love Ronald Colman, but not in the costume dramas. My favorite of his is THE LATE GEORGE APLEY. I'm terrified of clowns! Lon Chaney Sr. once said that there was nothing more horrifying than a "clown at midnight", and I think that speaks for itself! I agree with him! I don't know why Anthony Perkins was cast in GOODBYE AGAIN. I keep getting him confused in that part with the one in FIVE MILES TO MIDNIGHT, lol. I haven't seen CHANDU THE MAGICIAN in ages -- Bela as the evil Roxor is lovesick for Irene Ware as Princess Nadji; he's also trying to take over the world with a death ray, but is thwarted in both these efforts by (zzzzz) Edmund Lowe as Chandu. Too bad, lol. I like AND GOD CREATED WOMAN for the retro Cote D'Azur scenery and also iconic Brigitte. THE DAYS OF WINE AND ROSES is very well done, with Lee and Charles Bickford giving the best performances. Jack is sympathetic, but I feel tries just a little too hard. When Lemmon gets "serious", I tend to keep my emotional distance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronxgirl48 Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 Did someone mention Ricardo Cortez? My ears perked up, lol. Edited by: Bronxgirl48 on Apr 10, 2013 2:15 AM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFavell Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 > > I have learned that there is an excellent way to determine if such problems are a fault of hardware or of software. It is to use Unbuntu. To do this requires downloading it which lasts nearly an hour and then burning it to a DVD or installing on a flash drive. > > You can then run your computer under it rather than under Windows. It is then obvious if the problems you are experiencing are caused by the computer or by Windows. > > This does not affect your Windows operating system or software in any way. > > I am in the process of making a new Ubuntu boot drive because I like the games which come standard with most Linux installs and I will be happy to guide you through the process if you wish. That's OK, Sansfin. Though I appreciate the help, I will simply hand it over to Andrew,...he's a computer whiz who will probably do just exactly what you said. I will probably use the little flash drive he gave me to save my photos and junk to the new laptop. I'm just happy to be online again. Whew! And I love Victor Mature! He has his moments of mugging it up, like last night in My Gal Sal, but there's something about him, something underlying the roles he plays that I find really interesting. There he is, making goo goo eyes at Rita, but then he has the scene where he talks back to his old man and decides to leave home, which was excellent. The undercurrent of dissatisfaction and trying to better himself was very good. He also had humor in real life, and that is what really won me over, his ability to make fun of himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFavell Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 > {quote:title=FrankGrimes wrote:}{quote}Bonjour, Jacqueline! -- *I was on a roll!* > > And you still are! You've been excellent. awww. thanks white hat. It's probably just that I've finally seen some of the movies you watched. > That could be your hard drive. I had issues where the videos on YouTube couldn't play and it ended up being my drive. I think it might be a memory problem, but Andrew is the computer genius at our house. > You could probably copy your drive over. I could... I was supposed to do that the other day but I didn't. So it's my own fault. I got busy around the house and forgot to do it. It would be nice to get the good stuff and leave all the junk I've accumulated. > Oh, no, no. I actually think well of Olivia as an actress. It's just when it comes to love and romance, she can fall short for me. I think she's lovely in *The Proud Rebel*. That's the Olivia I really like. I actually have Olivia ranked 58th on my favorite actress list and Joan is 59th. They used to be in my top 50 and I used to have Joan ahead of Olivia. But I've found new favorites that pushed them out. Yes, I remember that movie! She kind of mellowed into a very attractive mature woman, with a lot of warm character rather than the cool understated Olivia of younger days. > That could very well be it. Deborah Kerr is someone I'd compare to Olivia. But I find Deborah to be the warm side of the coin and Olivia is the cold side. It could even be Olivia's eyes that give me the cold feeling, believe it or not. Deborah seems so inviting. Grace is so beautiful that her icy feel ends up appealing to me. But all three are "ladies." I can see that difference. > But once a person would establish themselves with you as a trusted voice, I think you would be okay listening to them. You may disagree, but at least you'd hear them and care to hear them. I wish there were people who would give advice when you asked for it, really thoughtful, helpful advice. It always seems that when people let fly with what they think you should do, it's really all about them. I can't stand that. Sometimes I just want to blow off steam, I don't want you to give me advice every time we talk. > Like me on this thread! > > > *You are winning! Or are you saying you're a chameleon? * I'm a chameleon! You take one side, and I think "yes! that's right." and then MissG takes the other side, and I find that I agree with her! I'm Ryan. > Are people their actions? Or is there more to them than that? Are they something else too? I think so. Are there always going to be extenuating circumstances in anything someone does? yes. > > > *Welcome to grey. Sometimes it's a situation that causes a person's actions, sometimes it's one's personality. With Rosy's father, it was his personality.* Do you think Rosy's situation caused her actions, or was it her personality? So people aren't always what they say they are, nor are they their actions. What's left? Soul? What they wish they were? What they want to be? The striving? The wish? It's an interesting question. To me anyway, > You're probably right. The reason why I feel a child would help Rosy is that she needs to develop a relationship with someone else. I feel a woman and her child is a special kind of relationship. It would allow her to share a love with Charles, too. The danger of a child is that a woman can feel smothered by the responsibility. Yes,I see. You may be right. she's been lonely and cut off from anyone like her... she has a different kind of nature than anyone around her. The question is will she open up now to other people who might be friendly with her or share her differentness? Will she stay alienated and alone? It's hard to open yourself to others if you think you are bad or different. > It just seemed to be too easy, too convenient. It played as a "false note" with me. You mean there was a pat reason for their situation? An explanation for why they were the way they were? Would you have liked it better if they had left it up in the air? > Chino?! > I may look into getting the Alec Guinness collection with it. It's pretty affordable. What else is in it? > I have a hard time reading Rosy at the end. I don't know if she is resigned to her situation or has learned a lesson or what. Interesting. There's a lot left unsaid or unfinished in this movie. It makes it more interesting to talk about. > Geez, *Sense and Sensibility* may actually be a Jane Austen story I'd like! WHAAAAAAAT??? > You are right, Charles is the kind of man that allows for Rosy to find herself. Can she do this within a marriage, and contribute to the marriage in a happy way? Or will Rosy just sit in the "sin bin," feeling she did wrong and her punishment is her marriage to Charles? Great question. I like to think on the positive side, since it couldn't have gotten more negative than where they were before. > You think that's a good total? I feel I'm still lacking with Walsh. I'm now watching some Errol Flynn, so that will help boost my Walsh watching. I am just surprised at the number. I guess I always think of you as a newbie, but at this point, you've probably watched more movies with more mental appreciation than I have. > You're setting me up for trouble with *The Strawberry Blonde* ! Other than that film, what do you think is the best "Walsh" film I've yet to see? Definitely *What Price Glory?* I know I'm setting you up with TSB, so I won't say anymore, except it's a simple film. I kind of doubt you'll like it anyway. But when you've asked me for favorites or movies I like that you should watch, I always choke... I can't remember which movies you've already seen, or I can't bring to mind what I would like to share. When I do think of one, it gets me over-talkative and excited. > I never knew that. That does make the show pretty interesting to me. I love it. It's my favorite mystery show. I like Ellery Queen too, with Jim Hutton. > That's a fantastic description! I really liked your "adding a touch of the villain to the hero." When Wayne is at his very best, that has been the case. Maybe it isn't so unusual, William S Hart did it first, And of course Ford in Stagecoach sort of set the mold for Wayne. He did play some bad good guys in his really early cheapie westerns, but they were all very good natured and didn't really seem bad at all. I think the depth comes later on. But man it's powerful, and I really had no idea his career was so serious, underlying all the rough and tumble. It gives him so much depth as an actor to see him struggle, to see him hate. > I also like that Clair can be fantastical. Now that's something I appreciate very much, but I didn't know you did. I wasn't sure you'd like something that contained elements of the magical or fantastic. I love the way things work out in Clair. There's a humorous serendipity at work in his films. In fact, that's the one thing I think shows up in all his movies that I've seen. Fate, but not a heavy one. A humorous one. > That does surprise me. I had just recently watched the Sherlock Holmes take on "The Ten Little Indians," and I had liked it. I thought *And Then There Were None* was even better. What really helps are the great performers in the film. They are magnificent. I also loved how dark the film was, yet its presentation was light. I did like it very much, it's not that I didn't like it. It just wasn't as exciting to me as I had hoped. But you are so right, the film WAS dark with a light presentation, very surprising. > I'm trying to figure out how Graham (Laurence Olivier) and Anna (Simone Signoret) ended up together! Talk about opposites. I'm guessing she was bored at a party or something, and thought it would be fun to get him all hot and bothered. Then they got stuck in that dynamic and couldn't escape it. > I know it by title only. Your words have greatly piqued my interest. It's an incredible movie, just not easy. > I'm unfamiliar with *The Entertainer*. I recorded *Billy Liar* because the write-up appealed to me. The Entertainer is probably going to be on this month sometime, since Laurence Olivier is SOTM. It's probably one of his finest performances. It's not nice or pretty, far from it. He completely re-invented himself in this role. I think it may be his best acting in a film. But it's unpleasant. You'd probably love it! > I don't want the steam there! It's metaphorical steam. > I don't know anything about Ginger's personality or her mother. I'm sure what you and Miss G say probably rings true. It really is amazing to see how different her early work (effortless and natural) is compared to her later work (forced). Isn't it odd? I never really thought about it before. I really love how she tosses off a line or a gag early on. She's just brilliant. She reminds me of something that happened to me when I was acting. I was performing in a play, I don't remember what it was. I had a bit part. At one point I decided to stare at the main character closely. It got a laugh. My teacher (who was also the director) pointed it out to everyone, made a big deal out of it. Much as I might try, I was never able to duplicate it and I never got the laugh during performance again.. Comedy is hard. > I'm gonna have to check it out. I did know the Playhouse presentation did come first. Sorry. I hope I don't try to explain too much. Especially after my little rant on advice up there. > That's the perfect description of the film. My feelings match what you said. But my overall feeling with the film matches Miss G's. But Robert Ryan is truly amazing in the film. What a pained, horrifying, sympathetic performance. I really agree with you. The movie itself is nothing. It's not even very complex or interesting as a thriller. I'd say it's not even in the top 10 suspense thrillers. But I love it all the same, because of the two actors and how they are just left alone to do what they do best. Ida is also really soft here, and I like that. > Uh-oh. > It's certainly very "Audrey." Uh-oh. > After reading your comment about *Torch Song* and then Miss G's comment, I now must watch it. Oy. Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFavell Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 > {quote:title=Bronxgirl48 wrote:}{quote}Did someone mention Ricardo Cortez? My ears perked up, lol. Oh yes! Ricardo... I love him! There's something almost elegant about him. Better get to that movie today... thanks for reminding me! Lord Love a Duck is to me what Prisoner of Zenda is to you...I think it's just awful... I can't sit through it! My least favorite movie of all time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronxgirl48 Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 I'm looking for the complete TORCH SINGER on YouTube. It's also got David Manners, so I hope Ricardo understands I'll have to divide my attentions, lol. I like LORD LOVE A DUCK -- ahead of its time in many respects, although it's kind of uneven (falls apart in the second half). So I saw THE SWEET RIDE this morning (don't get me started, lol) and just hope and pray that Miss Goddess will never have to cast her eyes upon it, because Tony Franciosa, as an aging Malibu tennis bum, is front and center throughout, strutting around in shorts (which agitates a conservative neighbor no end: "You Commie! Go to Peking and get undressed!"), exhorting his younger male acolytes to act like immature jerks, and running through a bunch of disposable beach bunnys. Tony's character is painfully aware of his limitations (as Jacqueline Bisset lays it on the line: "You can't even SPELL responsibility!") but that doesn't make him any less obnoxious. Having said all this, I have to say that Tony is easy on the eyes (in a sleazy sort of way), much more palatable looks-wise than the googly, bug-eyed Michael Sarrazin. Edited by: Bronxgirl48 on Apr 10, 2013 7:34 PM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesJazGuitar Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 Sorry to but in on your conversion here, but the Olivia DeHaviland comments are interesting to me. The Strawberry Blonde is the movie where I fell in love with her persona. A strong independent women with a keen sense of humor. Reserved but not cold and one with a big heart once she lets you in. In her best roles she is very vulnerable (at the start), but grows stronger; The Snake Pit, Hold Back The Dawn, To Each His Own and of course The Heiress (but end up being the 'cold' Olivia that has been discussed here). In her early career she starts out cold and ends up being warm; Captain Blood, Robin Hood, etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissGoddess Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 Bronxie, Unfortunately, I have seen THE SWEET RIDE, yes, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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