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*Frank, I also finally watched Le Plaisir.... and it was everything I'd hoped it would be. Its spectacular mise en scene made me dizzy. Sheer heaven to watch.*

 

Woohoo! I'll talk to you about it, coming up. I'm looking to reply to your posts tonight.

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Catch "Hurricane Express." It is fun just to see what they did for serials. All those "B" westerns back in the 30s are almost interchangeable. Some of them are funny in that you watch about half of one and everything looks 1880 then along come a bus. What????? Or everyone looks 1880s except for the leading lady who has on a dress from 1935. Some look like 1935 except for Duke. Some people take their car but he's going on the horse no matter what. Great stunts though. This was the main thing I enjoyed was thinking how dangerous they were and that they pulled them off.

 

Then comes The Three Mesquiteers. Max Terhune is kind of weird. (Those aren't serials but more a series of films.) There is about 8 of them with Wayne. Apparently his character went on long before and after his appearances.

 

*I've been filling in the gaps. After I watch the 40s, I should be at 100 films watched for Duke.*

 

We'll be right close then as my total is 116.

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I can't wait!

 

I swear you saw *Trouble Along the Way* already....I remember a discussion of it.

 

You should watch the ones movieman says are awful before you watch the war movies... then *Back to Bataan* and *The Fighting Seabees* will seem brilliant! :D

 

MissG - I guess it was something in what Sansfin wrote that put us on the same wavelength.... though I'm not surprised that we hit on the same thought. When I read your posts on Frank's movies, I find myself thinking many of the things you write out. Then again, there are times when you leave me completely in the dust, you guys are so far ahead of me, mentally!

 

I realized after reading your posts that I watched *Devil at Four O'Clock* just a little while ago. Sometimes a movie's title doesn't register with me. It's a tough film to sit through... I don't know why, but it's very slow moving in some ways. The plot is interesting, the actors are good and fit their roles well, the setting is good, so why doesn't it work? I think it's the pacing. It just gets deadly after a while. I loved the idea of the story.

 

Sansfin - Now I am going to have that number stuck in my head too!

 

There is something cozy about some lesser movies, that's certain. Comforting. Doesn't have to be a masterpiece to still be good.

 

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Oooh, so David is the slimy one in TORCH SINGER? Might be a nice change of pace ha! (and, if I recall correctly, Manners is not exactly what he seems to be in THE MYSTERY OF EDWIN DROOD, either) And Ricardo as a sweetie underneath? Yes, please!

 

I think I understand your aversion to LORD LOVE A DUCK in terms of Roddy and Tuesday together (he's her overly-quirky Svengali of sorts, and she's a squealing opportunist; you can't really love them, lol) but I would definitely recommend trying this movie again. The script hits all the intended targets and does it with unnerving foresight, although the last half gets somewhat out of control with misguided slapstick, black-humored as it is. This is not my favorite Ruth Gordon performance.

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>Catch "Hurricane Express." It is fun just to see what they did for serials. All those "B" westerns back in the 30s are almost interchangeable. Some of them are funny in that you watch about half of one and everything looks 1880 then along come a bus. What????? Or everyone looks 1880s except for the leading lady who has on a dress from 1935. Some look like 1935 except for Duke. Some people take their car but he's going on the horse no matter what. Great stunts though. This was the main thing I enjoyed was thinking how dangerous they were and that they pulled them off>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

LOL!!!!! So true, Chris!

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Did anyone see COUNT YOUR BLESSINGS? I'd never heard of this movie before and also didn't check the TCM program guide, but was in my kitchen with the living room t.v. on when I heard two people talking in what sounded like show biz impressions of Deborah Kerr and Maurice Chevalier, if you sort of know what I mean. Imagine my surprise when I went to look and found out they actually were Deborah Kerr and Maurice Chevalier. But an important phone call compelled me to stop watching. I have a feeling I didn't miss much.

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> What?! :D You've seen them all? That's remarkable. Of that group, I'm most curious about *Reunion in France* since Jules Dassin directed it.

 

It's not very "Dassin", and I don't believe any chemistry was captured

between Wayne and Joan, which is rare in Wayne's filmography (he's

almost always got some rapport). I only saw it once a long time ago,

and can't say if I'd feel differently now. I was very disappointed.

 

I should mention that *The Fighting Seabees* has one saving grace:

Wayne and Susan Hayward make a fun couple. She's a spitfire as

usual, and she's good opposite a big personality like Wayne's. And

yes, Duke does the jitterbug quite well!

 

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> I'm not familiar with Fred Allen, but he really bothered me. Did Fox specialize in finding annoying guys?

 

Ha! I think so. Fred is most famous for being Jack Benny's comedic

nemesis.

 

> You just hit a home run. I wasn't thrilled with many of the films I just watched. I'd say only *Woman on the Run* rated well with me (7 out of ten). Everything else was a "6 out of ten" or less. Most films rate a "six" with me. I did love seeing Brigitte in *... And God Created Woman*, though. She rates much higher! But the film itself isn't the best.

 

Well, at least now you know why she became an international icon

with that one movie. Imagine how Americans in the 50s reacted.

 

> Howard (Robert Ryan) keeps asking Helen (Ida Lupino) if he's done a good job. He genuinely wishes to do right. He views himself as a grand failure because of his being rejected by the military. There's a lot of sympathy to be found for him. But then when he's confronted with anything that makes him seem like less than a man, namely anything to do with the War, he explodes and starts to lash out. It's women he gets most upset with because he feels they are the ones who are really judging him as less than a man because he didn't serve. Howard is the insecurity of Man in the physical. "You think I'm not a man because of my poor job and I'm not strong for not serving."

 

Maybe the words were there but Ryan's performance seemed

one-note psycho to me. I'll have to watch it one more time to see if I

feel differently.

 

> There's actually something devoted but also tragic with Kirsten's (Lee Remick) parents' saying of "together in Heaven." Can they only be happy in Heaven? So, you're right, there is definitely some foreshadowing going on.

 

I didn't get that from it. I thought they were happy but had a simple,

unadorned life. Kirsten reminds me very much of little Gabrielle in

*The Petrified Forest*. "I kept telling myself, 'You're pretty! You're

pretty!' She was afraid of her "bloom wasting away on the desert

air." :D She figured there had to be something better out there, even

though she was really just a simple girl herself.

 

> Oh, yes, I blame him a lot. I'm Charles Bickford in the film. I'd want to kill him. I'm not a drinker, so the entire idea of needing alcohol to enjoy life is something that doesn't compute with me. To see others push their drinking onto another, those who are weaker and just trying to feel accepted, is horrible. Joe (Jack Lemmon) tells Kirsty that he'll take her back anytime, yet he doesn't. Joe is so full of himself. When he's drinking, he's great. When he's sober, he's once again great. He's done it. I did find him to be more humble by film's end. I feel the film does capture alcholism and addiction extremely well. The weakness and selfishness of it all. And once addiction takes hold, it's tough to instill strength and unselfishness. What takes the place as a stress reliever or a "hooray!"?

 

I really was bothered by what you just pointed out: He said he'd take

her back but he didn't. He was too afraid. I understand his fear but

HELLO, he started it all and now that he made a wreck of her, he's

going to slink away because it's the only way he can stay sober?

So much for "for better or for worse".

 

> Mervyn LeRoy can get to be "too much," sometimes.

 

Ah, I forgot who the director was. I think the direction is the problem

with Devil at 4 O'Clock. It needed a director who could balance

gritty action and good character development, a director like Richard

Brooks or Robert Aldrich.

 

 

> I've never seen him better. He's really good as the "Guardian Angel." He even finds a lost love! It's just a sweet and loving film. Lots of goodness. And there's Ward Bond, too. :)

 

Always a treat to see Wardy, and in a movie by Trumbo, lol. The irony.

 

> I believe you do. *Lured* may play better to me today than when I first watched it. I've seen so much more since then, so I may accept its style more now. I like *A Scandal in Paris*, but I prefer the heavy-handed emotions of later Sirk more. I do like Sirk, but he doesn't rank highly overall because I can't say that I love any of his films. *All That Heaven Allows* is my favorite of his and it only ranks # 449 on my overall list. That's low for a top favorite. And I'd say all of his films are grouped closely with me. *The Tarnished Angels*, *Lured*, and *A Scandal in Paris* are probably separated by 100 films or so. They are almost interchangeable.

 

I've no idea where most of these would rank overall, but definitely All

That Heaven Allows would be high. It's a movie I like to pull out and

watch frequently. It's so visual. You could turn the sound off and still

enjoy it. You could make a case that the cast is so bland Sirk had to

go crazy with the visuals, but I know he liked working with Hudson so

I'm just being mean. :D

 

 

 

> I like racy and satirical! Maybe I'll like it.

 

For a while, Bobby was stuck playing characters like this, but

*The Man in Possession* has a witty script with bite and he's at his

most mischievous and naughty. I think every scene takes place in a

drawing room or bedroom and it's mostly just him and Irene Purcell, a

very 1930s actress who only made about eight films. However, I think

the movie leans more to being Montgomery's show rather than hers,

which is rare in this period.

 

It may also be the ultimate example of the inferiority complex

American actors had at this time, so many of them thought they had to

sound English or "Continental", lol. Bobby is from New York and Irene

is from Indiana but they both sound more British and than the Brits!

 

I have to add, for a stiffly filmed photoplay, the movie has moments of

genuine sensuality between the stars.

 

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I liked *Tycoon* a great deal when I was younger. I thought it a very

romantic adventure back then. Loved the setting and the

characters---the whole shebang. When I heard it was coming to DVD I

was among the first to snap it up. I was disappointed. It didn't have the

glamour of my memories, lol. I think you hit upon the reason, Chris.

The length. It really has the ingredients for a fun adventure (and Duke

and Laraine are cute together) but it ends up being draggy.

 

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> There is something cozy about some lesser movies, that's certain. Comforting. Doesn't have to be a masterpiece to still be good.

 

Absolutely! And I liked your word, "restful". That is so true. Many of them are relaxing to watch. I just watched a pair of B movies by the Hammer studio (dramas, no horror movies) and while they certainly weren't sterling examples of cinema art, they were fun. I kept picturing how enjoyable it must have been, way back then in 1954 when they came out, to get dressed up to go with a date to see movies like that. And they are really like popcorn---it's hard to eat just one so no wonder it was the heydey of the double-feature.

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*It's not very "Dassin", and I don't believe any chemistry was captured*

*between Wayne and Joan, which is rare in Wayne's filmography (he's*

*almost always got some rapport). I only saw it once a long time ago,*

*and can't say if I'd feel differently now. I was very disappointed.*

 

I'm sure Dassin wasn't "Dassin" just yet. He's probably a studio director, then. I can't imagine Joan working well with Duke, hence my intrigue. I may have to watch that one in this next group.

 

*I should mention that The Fighting Seabees has one saving grace:*

*Wayne and Susan Hayward make a fun couple. She's a spitfire as*

*usual, and she's good opposite a big personality like Wayne's. And*

*yes, Duke does the jitterbug quite well!*

 

That's appealing to me! And where is that other guy looking in that photo?

 

*Ha! I think so. Fred is most famous for being Jack Benny's comedic nemesis.*

 

What does that mean?

 

 

 

 

 

*Well, at least now you know why she became an international icon with that one movie. Imagine how Americans in the 50s reacted.*

 

Lots of tongues on the floor! Love her pouting! Among other things. :)

 

*Maybe the words were there but Ryan's performance seemed one-note psycho to me. I'll have to watch it one more time to see if I feel differently.*

 

When is Robert Ryan ever "one-note"?! His psychos almost always beg for sympathy.

 

*I didn't get that from it. I thought they were happy but had a simple, unadorned life.*

 

You're probably right. I know Kirsten mentions her father hardly ever speaking, so her parents had a quiet love.

 

*Kirsten reminds me very much of little Gabrielle in The Petrified Forest. "I kept telling myself, 'You're pretty! You're pretty!' She was afraid of her "bloom wasting away on the desert air." :DShe figured there had to be something better out there, even though she was really just a simple girl herself.*

 

I'm not sure. You are definitely right, she's a simple girl. I thought she was okay with that, too. Joe (Jack Lemmon) pushes her to try booze. He gets her a Brandy Alexander. I think she would have been very happy being in a boring relationship, so long as they loved each other.

 

I liked seeing Joe bring home the "groceries" for their dinner together.

 

 

 

 

 

*I really was bothered by what you just pointed out: He said he'd take her back but he didn't. He was too afraid. I understand his fear but HELLO, he started it all and now that he made a wreck of her, he's going to slink away because it's the only way he can stay sober? So much for "for better or for worse".*

 

I know. And I do understand he's trying to protect their daughter, but he said she cries for her mother. He needs to get her back in the house and work from within. The problem is Kirsten (Lee Remick) refuses to admit she has a problem. And when Joe is at work, can he trust Kirsten?

 

 

 

 

 

 

*Ah, I forgot who the director was. I think the direction is the problem with Devil at 4 O'Clock. It needed a director who could balance gritty action and good character development, a director like Richard Brooks or Robert Aldrich.*

 

Yes, I feel you are right. The action was very "studio." LeRoy is more of a "touchy-feely" director and that's where his focus was.

 

 

*Always a treat to see Wardy, and in a movie by Trumbo, lol. The irony.*

 

 

I forgot it was Dalton Trumbo! Such sweetness from him.

 

 

 

 

 

 

*I've no idea where most of these would rank overall, but definitely All That Heaven Allows would be high. It's a movie I like to pull out and watch frequently. It's so visual. You could turn the sound off and still enjoy it. You could make a case that the cast is so bland Sirk had to go crazy with the visuals, but I know he liked working with Hudson so I'm just being mean. :D*

 

You watch it frequently? You don't watch movies like that anymore! You're a TV show lass. :)

 

Rock Hudson can be quite vacant, especially his line readings. For some reason, I still like him like that. I don't see Jane Wyman being your kind of actress.

 

*For a while, Bobby was stuck playing characters like this, but The Man in Possession has a witty script with bite and he's at his most mischievous and naughty. I think every scene takes place in a drawing room or bedroom and it's mostly just him and Irene Purcell, a very 1930s actress who only made about eight films. However, I think the movie leans more to being Montgomery's show rather than hers, which is rare in this period.*

 

I thought I had this film recorded but I don't. Do you know if it's on YouTube? I'm all for Robert Montgomery being mischievous.

 

*It may also be the ultimate example of the inferiority complex American actors had at this time, so many of them thought they had to sound English or "Continental", lol. Bobby is from New York and Irene is from Indiana but they both sound more British and than the Brits!*

 

 

 

I feel that's the theatrical influence of early talkies in American film. The 30s are very theatrical to me. It's about performers more so than directors.

 

*I have to add, for a stiffly filmed photoplay, the movie has moments of genuine sensuality between the stars.*

 

That's a wonderful motion cap! Very sexy! Whoever Irene Purcell is, she has a lovely look.

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> I'm sure Dassin wasn't "Dassin" just yet. He's probably a studio director, then. I can't imagine Joan working well with Duke, hence my intrigue. I may have to watch that one in this next group.

 

They got on very well off-screen.

 

> That's appealing to me! And where is that other guy looking in that photo?

 

That's Dennis O'Keefe.

 

> *Ha! I think so. Fred is most famous for being Jack Benny's comedic nemesis.*

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> What does that mean?

 

 

Jack Benny had a successful variety show (and that's what his character in his show plays) and Fred Allen also had a successful variety show; so of course, Jack (his character) was insanely jealous of Allen and always taking shots at him and they would carry out this pretend rivalry on their respective shows.

 

> When is Robert Ryan ever "one-note"?! His psychos almost always beg for sympathy.

 

I know, that's what really disappointed me. I expected to feel for him more.

 

> I liked seeing Joe bring home the "groceries" for their dinner together.

 

It's the funniest scene. The whole roach-motel bit is so funny to me because I can relate, lol.

 

> I know. And I do understand he's trying to protect their daughter, but he said she cries for her mother. He needs to get her back in the house and work from within. The problem is Kirsten (Lee Remick) refuses to admit she has a problem. And when Joe is at work, can he trust Kirsten?

 

With her father's help they could have made that work.

 

> I forgot it was Dalton Trumbo! Such sweetness from him.

 

He won an Oscar for one of the most sweet movies ever, *The Brave One*. Talk about a tear-jerker.

 

> Rock Hudson can be quite vacant, especially his line readings. For some reason, I still like him like that. I don't see Jane Wyman being your kind of actress.

 

He's hard not to like. Jane is okay, I like her (don't like her hair, though).

 

> I thought I had this film recorded but I don't. Do you know if it's on YouTube? I'm all for Robert Montgomery being mischievous.

 

Unfortunately, it's not. TCM may show it again one day. They ought to do a night of movies starring actresses of the 30s that only did a few movies, ha.

 

> That's a wonderful motion cap! Very sexy! Whoever Irene Purcell is, she has a lovely look.

 

Yes, I like her. She was unique and piquant. RM has a field day with his trademark expressions. Too bad this movie is not on DVD. I have it recorded, but I'd love to have a real DVD.

 

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*They got on very well off-screen.*

 

Is every film this way?! I cannot see John Wayne and Joan Crawford mixing. Maybe for the sex, but that's about it.

 

 

 

 

*That's Dennis O'Keefe.*

 

Really?! It doesn't look like him. I'm still wondering where he's looking.

 

 

 

 

 

 

*Jack Benny had a successful variety show (and that's what his character in his show plays) and Fred Allen also had a successful variety show; so of course, Jack (his character) was insanely jealous of Allen and always taking shots at him and they would carry out this pretend rivalry on their respective shows.*

 

 

That's great! I think that's really funny.

 

*I know, that's what really disappointed me. I expected to feel for him more.*

 

There really isn't a tender moment in the film from Robert Ryan. He's either very helpful and conscientious or crazy. He isn't self-aware. He has no idea he's doing what he's doing.

 

 

 

 

 

*It's the funniest scene. The whole roach-motel bit is so funny to me because I can relate, lol.*

 

No spraying, eh?

 

 

 

 

 

*With her father's help they could have made that work.*

 

That poor guy! He keeps getting burned! But I know he'd give in. It's his daughter and he loves her so.

 

 

 

 

 

*He won an Oscar for one of the most sweet movies ever, The Brave One. Talk about a tear-jerker.*

 

I never heard of it.

 

 

 

 

 

*He's hard not to like. Jane is okay, I like her (don't like her hair, though).*

 

I don't like her hair, either. I especially had to get used to it in *Magnificent Obsession*.

 

 

 

 

 

*Unfortunately, it's not. TCM may show it again one day. They ought to do a night of movies starring actresses of the 30s that only did a few movies, ha.*

 

That's a great theme!

 

 

 

 

 

*Yes, I like her. She was unique and piquant. RM has a field day with his trademark expressions. Too bad this movie is not on DVD. I have it recorded, but I'd love to have a real DVD.*

 

Bobby made her breakfast in bed? And he even spelled out "love"? So what's the issue? :P

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> *Jack Benny had a successful variety show (and that's what his character in his show plays) and Fred Allen also had a successful variety show; so of course, Jack (his character) was insanely jealous of Allen and always taking shots at him and they would carry out this pretend rivalry on their respective shows.*

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> That's great! I think that's really funny.

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One of the funniest things in life is Jack Benny acting jealous and insecure.

 

> *It's the funniest scene. The whole roach-motel bit is so funny to me because I can relate, lol.*

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No! They resent it and will plot their revenge.

 

> *He won an Oscar for one of the most sweet movies ever, The Brave One. Talk about a tear-jerker.*

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It's about a little boy and his bull.

 

> I don't like her hair, either. I especially had to get used to it in *Magnificent Obsession*.

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it's so severe. a lot of actresses went that route in the 50s.

 

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> *Unfortunately, it's not. TCM may show it again one day. They ought to do a night of movies starring actresses of the 30s that only did a few movies, ha.*

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> That's a great theme!

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I think it would be a good one, and one that would appeal to the TCM audience.

 

> Bobby made her breakfast in bed? And he even spelled out "love"? So what's the issue? :P

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that's his job! he's the butler.

 

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*One of the funniest things in life is Jack Benny acting jealous and insecure.*

 

And I've never seen that. Where did you catch it?

 

*No! They resent it and will plot their revenge.*

 

:D They're women? :P:P:P

 

*It's about a little boy and his bull.*

 

Uh-oh. That does sound like a set-up for sadness.

 

*it's so severe. a lot of actresses went that route in the 50s.*

 

I've never seen Jane look sultry before! She's going for the Lana Turner look. She has a pretty face, even in the 50s, but her hair made her look older.

 

*I think it would be a good one, and one that would appeal to the TCM audience.*

 

Absolutely. I think it would be interesting to place the spotlight on performers who were married to each other and appeared in the same film.

 

*that's his job! he's the butler.*

 

Oh, that's right. I was confusing it for *Another Language*, for some reason. I can definitely see Bobby playing a mischievous butler.

 

 

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Since you brought up Jack Benny - I've been listening to podcasts from itunes of old radio shows from Benny. There are some that go back as far as 1938 that are different than what we knew later.

 

Once he got Don Wilson and Mary Livingston and Rochester and Phil Harris he was onto something. They were quite funny. Still are.

 

Another set of old radio podcasts have included Fred Allen and they too can be pretty funny but it was sort of a whole different format than Jack's.

 

More winners have been Martin and Lewis, Mel Blanc, Red Skelton. Plenty of name that we would recognize.

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> {quote:title=FrankGrimes wrote:}{quote}*One of the funniest things in life is Jack Benny acting jealous and insecure.*

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> And I've never seen that. Where did you catch it?

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You saw him that way in *To Be or Not to Be*. "The Jack Benny Program" is on YouTube and on Antenna TV.

 

> I've never seen Jane look sultry before! She's going for the Lana Turner look. She has a pretty face, even in the 50s, but her hair made her look older.

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That's what I think. Maybe they wanted to emphasize the age difference between her and Rock.

 

> Absolutely. I think it would be interesting to place the spotlight on performers who were married to each other and appeared in the same film.

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Yes! Orson Welles and Rita Hayworth, *The Lady from Shanghai*.

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Hi Chris!

I've listened to a couple of Benny's radio programs and many others as well. They're such fun. I wish I had more time for them. They're a great thing to have on in the background while puttering around.

 

I don't think I listened to any of Jack's early shows yet.

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*You saw him that way in To Be or Not to Be. "The Jack Benny Program" is on YouTube and on Antenna TV.*

 

I believe that's the only time I have seen Benny except for clips. So you're just starting to get to know Benny? YouTube and Antenna are new dealies.

 

*That's what I think. Maybe they wanted to emphasize the age difference between her and Rock.*

 

I think that could very well be the case. It worked!

 

*Yes! Orson Welles and Rita Hayworth, The Lady from Shanghai.*

 

That's a really good one! I don't know if Robert Osborne would enjoy talking about the couples or not.

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Hi April:

 

I have seven podcasts I subscribe to (old radio comedy and classical music) and I sure don't have time. In the collections I haven't downloaded all of them yet. One night I hit sync by accident and now those download and I have over 300 on my computer and probably another 50 that would show up if I downloaded all of them. I doubt I'll live long enough to listen to them all.

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> {quote:title=MissGoddess wrote:}{quote}

> I kept picturing how enjoyable it must have been, way back then in 1954 when they came out, to get dressed up to go with a date to see movies like that.

 

It did not end in the 1950s. I met Capuchin in 1972. I wore my best as did he on our first date. We watched *How To Steal a Million* and we both laughed in the same places and pressed against each other when they were in the closet. The next day we snuck out of our assignments and went to see *The Ex-Mrs. Bradford* at a little theatre he had found. The movie had been dubbed into Hindi and it had Arabic subtitles. We both knew the movie well and so we enjoyed it.

 

I am sure the experience would not have been as rich or as significant for us if the movies had been deeply meaningful masterpieces.

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MissG - I just realized from the photo you posted that I've seen *Tycoon* before. I must be losing it, I can't remember titles anymore. I enjoyed it very much, but maybe it's one of those that only works once, the first time you see it? It's definitely not a masterpiece... but likable. :D

 

Sansfin - That sounds like a super date! It was probably even better because the movie was in another language, it brought you closer together, because you both knew it so well and connected over that. Wonderful!

 

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