The Annual FrankGrimes Torture Thread

[movieman1957]

Congratulations to you MissG! 27,000 posts. You realize that puts in the same neighborhood with Sir Francis? Oh my.

 

Thanks for the fun and the knowledge you share. It's all done with wit and grace.

[SansFin]

[MissGoddess]

*Chris* - Thank you so much...I hope I don't run into the next 1,000 mark any too soon---it's already so embarrassing!

 

*SansFin* - What a cutie kitty, thank you! I think I'd hug a kitten 27,000 times.

[JackFavell]

[MissGoddess]

Jackie, what a s'wonderful picture! I love it in black-and-white! Thank you so much. :x

[FrankGrimes]

Bonjour, Miss Gun for Hire -- *Oscar is usually the gem of any group.*

 

I'm not sure I've seen Oscar Levant in anything prior to *The Barkleys of Broadway*.

 

*They were very funny, too. I felt the same, by the way, when I first watched the movie. After several viewings it grew on me and I liked it better.*

 

 

So what do you like most about *Boys' Night Out* ? For me it's the elderly couple and then Kim Novak. The story is okay. The twist is very "60s."

 

 

*i never saw the ending, I hope Cassavettes got his due.*

 

 

He deserved to get it, but...

 

 

*It is a rollick, yes.*

 

 

I do like my share of just plain ol' fun, but *Dodge City* just didn't do much for me. But I did love Errol Flynn. He and Clark Gable are always seem to have a sparkle in their eye. I can't say I've found many peformers who match them with that.

 

 

*Yuck! I can't stand that song. It just bothers me.*

 

 

Why does the "Iowa Corn Song" bother you? Too much hokum? It's so very "Jean."

 

 

*At least you liked Ronnie.*

 

 

That's two films where I have liked Ronald Reagan. He's terrific in *Kings Row* and very good in *Desperate Journey*.

 

 

*You liked Taylor? I found him less interesting than in Ride, Vaquero!, a movie I prefer.*

 

 

I actually did like Robert Taylor in *The Law and Jake Wade*. I liked the situation he was in. I thought his personality fit well against Richard Widmark.

 

 

*Do you have The Last Hunt yet?*

 

 

I do have it. It's Richard Brooks, a director I do like.

 

 

*me, too. they both annoyed me and as you say, David seldom does that.*

 

 

*The Little Hut* is such an odd film. The way Susan (Ava Gardner) behaves with Henry (David Niven) is quite strange. And Philip (Stewart Granger) is such a moron. The film itself plays moronic. Ava is gorgeous in the film, though.

 

 

*He always bothers me so I've blanked him out completely, ha.*

 

 

I was waiting for you to mention how annoying John Dall was.

 

 

*They almost seem like they would have been a good match off-screen, they are so in tune with one another.*

 

 

Something tells me Pat wouldn't put up with Duke away from the big screen. But I do love how relaxed she is on screen.

 

 

*I haven't seen it in a while, I remember being surprised by the whimsical tone at times.*

 

 

I wasn't sure about how to take the stories at first. But the film eventually breaks it all down for you by the end. It's no longer hiding it's a ruse.

 

 

*That is surprising. The movie as you know was a real "shocker" supposedly (at least publicly---everyone knew about all that stuff it just wasn't talked about).*

 

 

Oh, really? I didn't know *Peyton Place* was seen that way. I can see how it was, though. The big moment is very shocking.

 

 

*I love seeing Lana playing prim, talk about acting! No wonder they have her an Oscar nom.*

 

 

I loved her that way! It really was the best I have ever seen Lana.

 

 

*Hope is lovely, tragic innocence personified.*

 

 

That's wonderfully said. She really is lovely. I liked that she was working at Constance's (Lana Turner) dress shop, trying to make ends meet.

 

 

*Gee, I don't remember Clark glowing but he was her best co-star along with Tracy. I'm glad she's finally registered with you.*

 

 

Jean is really adorable. Clark seemed to be beaming during the film. Maybe it's just the character. He's always so friendly and accommodating since he's a bookie looking to bait the suckers.

 

 

*It's a fascinating character and Eddie is perfectly cast, I believe.*

 

 

It really is a great character and performance by Eddie. There are layers with "Larsen." Lots of passion, and you end up having some compassion for him. It's almost like a transitional character for him since he would soon start to play more "quiet" characters after a decade of "loud." You get a mix with Larsen.

 

 

*yes, the execution was draggy, though the characters are great. i wish sterling could have hung around a little longer.*

 

 

It wasn't a stretch to believe Sterling as a big, ol' farm boy. I loved how he went out of his way to get Selina (Jane Wyman). If it was only as easy as bidding on a lady's lunch basket at an auction. I also liked how he got after Selina with some things, too.

 

 

*i don't remember the love story much at all. i'll have to watch it again.*

 

 

Jenny (Joan Crawford) is a demanding, cold woman who is challenged by the blind Tye (Michael Wilding). He starts to soften her and then she softens him. I really liked the conversation Jenny has with her mother (Marjorie Rambeau). She speaks of her husband (Susan's father) and all the articles she scrapbooked about Jenny. It's a sweet scene. A scene I didn't expect to see in a film like *Torch Song*.

 

 

*yes, she was. it is the kind of romance i loved to dream of putting myself into....to be a spoiled senorita on a beautiful hacienda and fall in love with a guy like Wayne's character...sublime! I loved to lose myself in the fantasy.*

 

 

That definitely sounds like you! But you would have slapped the heck out of Duke for taking you to the ruins in the middle of the night!

[FrankGrimes]

Howdy, Quiet Gal -- So what in the wide world of sports is going on with your posting? You can't hit return to separate your sentences?

*Mr. Grimes says: "You know me, I'll watch most anything. I think it benefits me to watch different kinds of films"*

*Said the guy who STILL refuses to watch one of my most favorite movies EVER (Empire of the Sun) Caught you by suprise with THAT one now didn't I?? ha. You have been doing such a great job w/ the WWII movies.. it really WOULD be a great addition. Just sayin'.. ha. Don't worry.. I'll just sit here.. waiting.. and waiting.. zzzz. (I would make a little tongue sticking out face but since all my posts are running together.. I can't make one right now.. so just picture me.. sticking my tongue out at you three or four times instead. HA!)*

Well, you did get me with that one. The issue I have is that I have to buy the DVD and I rarely do so with "newer" films.

*Mr. Grimes also says: " I watched it because you had it ranked in your top five war films. It was pretty good. It has a nice mix of characters and action. It's a film that I think is good but it's not necessarily my kind of film"*

*I can respect that.. and thanks for watching by the way.. I am sure it is likely just a matter of personal taste. Not every movie will strike a chord with every person. I think I like it most because it is such a "un-fancy" and even "unglorious" telling. (at least in terms of how the men are portrayed.. just a bunch of guys banded together by their role in the war) In some respects it is very grueling to watch.. not only for the fighting.. but also for the monontony of day to day to day drudgery of life along the battlefield. But I do like the characters.. and how they are presented.. though it can be a bit gritty.. and even a bit heart wrenching in places.*

I definitely liked seeing the different kinds of men. The mix was good. The war scenes were very nicely done. In terms of "trench" war flicks, it's pretty doggone good. The overall feeling of the film wasn't really my speed, though.

*Regarding King's Row, The Grey Dude says: "I completely agree with what you wrote about Ronald Reagan's "Drake." He was easily the best part of the film for me"*

*I wish I could remember more of the overall story.. but his role really was the "standout" part of it for me. (I do remember it being almost "creepy" too.. w/ Claude Raines and his daughter.. maybe.. I think) Will try to watch it again sometime if only to refresh my memory.*

Ronald Reagan was the interesting part of *Kings Row*. Robert Cummings... not so much. After Reagan, I liked Claude Rains the most. His overprotectiveness and possessiveness of his daughter is what made him creepy, but he turned almost human when helping Paris (Robert Cummings). His last act was a doozy.

*And in comparing King's Row to Peyton Place, Mr. Grey relates: "While the two films are rather similar, I thought Peyton Place 's story was far more interesting than that of Kings Row."*

*And see.. the things you liked most about PP makes it less appealing (ha.. at least in my memory) than KR.*

The focus on the adolescents? I can see you not liking that. But I loved the awkwardness, the nervousness, the sweetness, the male overconfidence, the female games, all of that. We don't get any of that in *Kings Row*. *Kings Row* is basically two fathers imprisoning their daughters. It's the mothers who look to do this in *Peyton Place*, but the kids are still out and about.

*But I really would likely need to see BOTH films again to be fair in my comparisons. I really only have just a FEW viable memories of anything specific about Peyton Place.. other than I remember thinking that it was too "soap opera" like. (but I was likely still a TEENAGER.. or perhaps very early 20's.. ha.. so who KNOWS if my old worn out brain cells are remembering it well enough.. or just making it up in my mind. ha. (it's been known to happen.. what can I say.. I am old..and my brain cells are NOT what they used to be) *

It's definitely soap opera, but it also plays very similarly to *Johnny Belinda*. A multi-layered *Johnny Belinda*.

*So tell me WHY oh WHY you think I would like The LadyKillers. That is one film I have made a point of avoiding. (I think it might be because of the remake.. w/ Tom Hanks looking so creepy.. ha. It made me not want to see it in ANY version) But hey.. I once heard some GREY person say something like, "I'll watch ANYTHING" so who KNOWS.. maybe I should give it a try. HA!! (again.. picture me, with my tongue sticking WAY on out at you, if you please)*

*The Ladykillers* shares some similarities to two films you really like: *Arsenic and Old Lace* and *We're No Angels*. All feature great black humor. You love the two sisters in *Arsenic and Old Lace*. Well, it's another "old lady" (Katie Johnson) who steals the show in *The Ladykillers*. I think you'd absolutely love her. The film is nothing but charming and I think you'd eat that up.

[JackFavell]

> Here is how I liked them:

>

> 1. The Ladykillers

> 2. The Steel Helmet

> 3. The Chase

> 4. Scandal Sheet

> 5. The Outrage

> 6. Peyton Place

> 7. The Law and Jake Wade

> 8. The Sin of Harold Diddlebock

> 9. Crime in the Streets

> 10. A Foreign Affair

> 11. The Sea Wolf

> 12. The Milky Way (1969)

> 13. French Cancan

> 14. Battleground

> 15. Boys' Night Out

> 16. The Shopworn Angel (1938)

> 17. Operation Pacific

> 18. Saratoga

> 19. Tycoon

> 20. The Man Who Cheated Himself

> 21. I Was a Male War Bride

> 22. The Barkleys of Broadway

> 23. Dodge City

> 24. So Big (1953)

> 25. Upstream

> 26. Funny Face

> 27. The Little Hut

> 28. Search for Beauty

> 29. Torch Song

> 30. Kings Row

 

Glad to see *The Ladykillers* ranked so high! It's just a PERFECT movie. You got it right, it's charming. I think Ro would LOVE it. You pegged it with your comparisons. It's such a sweet movie, but one with a sharp edge. You never see that combination.

 

More and more, I love the little touches in it - like the beginning when little Mrs. Lopsided whangs away with such strength at the pipes and waits to fill her teapot absent-mindedly. Here's this tiny woman, and in this first scene we get her entire (deceptively frail) character and the film's plot laid out for us in the most economical of ways. I'd never really caught the implications of the film before, it's so enjoyable just as a comedy. It's actually also a hilarious commentary on how we view old age. Somehow, it's also a sly comment on how systems go awry when people are involved - re: the villains' meticulous plot; the police don't really want to recover the money. In the end it works out almost as if God had planned it - it goes to the most deserving person it could probably go to. Wonderful.

 

I really love Peyton Place. It's my guilty pleasure, so I'm surprised at how much you liked it. I love Diane Varsi and Hope Lange. King's Row really blew me away a few years ago when I first saw it, but I realize that I love the look of it more than anything else. It's hard to make a film about such evil things while following the code. I really like Ronnie, he's super, Ann Sheridan makes the second half bearable. The two women (Betty Field and Nancy Coleman) were the most interesting thing about the movie but we barely see them, instead we are given Robert Cummings on a platter, scene after scene, who could have been a voiceover as far as I am concerned. Claude Rains was remarkable but again was only in the film for a moment. Don't even speak to me about Charles Coburn! ACK!

 

The Chase is a beautiful visual movie. I don't remember much more except that I liked it's dark ambience and cinematography. It moves so quickly and is so twisty that Robert Cummings didn't annoy at all, he didn't have time!

 

You've hit on a lot of my guilty pleasures here - I just loved Tycoon, and I don't have the excuse that it was from my childhood. I only saw it in the last year or so! I thought it was much better than I was expecting, and of course, Laraine Day is one of my favorite actresses so that's probably what I liked best. It's a good solid romantic adventure film. Nothing special, exactly but just what you need once in a while. Something to watch on a rainy day. I think the color helps boost the movie. It is in color isn't it? That's how I remember it.

 

Oddly enough, Boy's Night Out is also a guilty pleasure - one of my favorite 60's comedies. I just love Kim and the way she puts it over on the boys, each in a different way. Love the differences between the guys, and how they talk to one another about sex, which is not really what they are looking for. It's funny.

 

More later.

[FrankGrimes]

Hiya, Little Red Buick -- So there you are!

 

*Glad to see The Ladykillers ranked so high! It's just a PERFECT movie. You got it right, it's charming. I think Ro would LOVE it. You pegged it with your comparisons. It's such a sweet movie, but one with a sharp edge. You never see that combination.*

 

I agree, the film does a wonderful job of combining the sharp with the soft. And that's something Quiet Gal would like. Alexander Mackendrick works his magic... again.

 

*More and more, I love the little touches in it - like the beginning when little Mrs. Lopsided whangs away with such strength at the pipes and waits to fill her teapot absent-mindedly. Here's this tiny woman, and in this first scene we get her entire (deceptively frail) character and the film's plot laid out for us in the most economical of ways. I'd never really caught the implications of the film before, it's so enjoyable just as a comedy.*

 

That's perfectly said. Mackendrick really does "tea" it up for us. Love the clash of innocence with the ugly truth.

 

*It's actually also a hilarious commentary on how we view old age.*

 

This really hit home for me. I could see both of my grandma's in this film. They're wanting to be helpful but they end up getting in the way of things you're attempting to accomplish. The naivete of thinking people still behave as they did when they were in their teens and twenties. How they see life revolving around them and their minor needs.

 

*Somehow, it's also a sly comment on how systems go awry when people are involved - re: the villains' meticulous plot; the police don't really want to recover the money.*

 

Boy, ain't that the truth. The more people involved, the more complicated it all gets. It's no wonder everyone makes love to their cell phone these days.

 

*In the end it works out almost as if God had planned it - it goes to the most deserving person it could probably go to. Wonderful.*

 

It's a delightful ending, a wonderful little twist of fate.

 

*I really love Peyton Place. It's my guilty pleasure, so I'm surprised at how much you liked it.*

 

Oh, really?! I thought you didn't like it! What a nice surprise.

 

*I love Diane Varsi and Hope Lange.*

 

I thought they were both lovely.

 

*King's Row really blew me away a few years ago when I first saw it, but I realize that I love the look of it more than anything else. It's hard to make a film about such evil things while following the code.*

 

You are right, the look and tone for an early-40s film does make it rather unique. It makes it haunting.

 

*I really like Ronnie, he's super, Ann Sheridan makes the second half bearable.*

 

The second half is a very tough watch for me. It was draining. Ann was sweet. When do you ever hear that?!

 

*The two women (Betty Field and Nancy Coleman) were the most interesting thing about the movie but we barely see them, instead we are given Robert Cummings on a platter, scene after scene, who could have been a voiceover as far as I am concerned.*

 

That was precisely my feeling. I was very interested in Cassandra (Betty Field) and Louise (Nancy Coleman). I especially liked "Cassie" since we got to see her spending time with Parris (Robert Cummings) as a little girl. But there really wasn't much development with them and their situations except the eventual tragedies.

 

*Claude Rains was remarkable but again was only in the film for a moment.*

 

I agree. He's such a great actor. I'm always drawn to him by his performance.

 

*Don't even speak to me about Charles Coburn! ACK!*

 

It was tough for me to see Charles that way. It didn't seem right.

 

*The Chase is a beautiful visual movie. I don't remember much more except that I liked it's dark ambience and cinematography. It moves so quickly and is so twisty that Robert Cummings didn't annoy at all, he didn't have time!*

 

I wasn't sure what the heck happened in the film. The twist is that confusing. I found it all to be so fascinating. It's a little similar to *The Strange Affair of Uncle Harry*, in that way. And you're correct, the look is quite good.

 

*You've hit on a lot of my guilty pleasures here - I just loved Tycoon, and I don't have the excuse that it was from my childhood. I only saw it in the last year or so! I thought it was much better than I was expecting, and of course, Laraine Day is one of my favorite actresses so that's probably what I liked best. It's a good solid romantic adventure film. Nothing special, exactly but just what you need once in a while. Something to watch on a rainy day. I think the color helps boost the movie. It is in color isn't it? That's how I remember it.*

 

You pretty much hit the nail on the head with *Tycoon*. There isn't much meat on the bone but the romance, action, and drama all add up to some good fun. I never saw Laraine more beautiful. I didn't even recognize her. And the film is in Technicolor. I'll post a cap or two from it when I write my capsules. I'll try to work on that tonight.

 

*Oddly enough, Boy's Night Out is also a guilty pleasure - one of my favorite 60's comedies.*

 

Really?! I wasn't sure if you liked the 60s sex comedies or not.

 

*I just love Kim and the way she puts it over on the boys, each in a different way.*

 

It's rather classic since Kim is such a sex symbol. In terms of sex appeal, she's the most desirable of all for me.

 

*Love the differences between the guys, and how they talk to one another about sex, which is not really what they are looking for. It's funny.*

 

Yes, they are all "scoring." And not much has changed from then to now with us guys.

 

I liked the little fights (door slams) between Cathy (Kim Novak) and Fred (James Garner). That's funny, I almost always hear doors slamming with Snippy.

 

*More later.*

 

Great! I look forward to it.

[MissGoddess]

> {quote:title=FrankGrimes wrote:}{quote}Bonjour, Miss Gun for Hire -- *Oscar is usually the gem of any group.*

>

> I'm not sure I've seen Oscar Levant in anything prior to *The Barkleys of Broadway*.

>

 

You haven't seen *Humoresque* yet? I like him in that. He had a wonderfully acerbic sense of humor. There are these actors, usually musicians, who pop up as side-kicks and act almost like the conscience of the (usually self-absorbed) lead in many movie. Levant, Dooley Wilson, Juano Hernandez, Hoagy Carmichael were all good at those kinds of characters. I usually like them better than the leads!

 

> So what do you like most about *Boys' Night Out* ? For me it's the elderly couple and then Kim Novak. The story is okay. The twist is very "60s."

>

 

i like each of the boys' fantasies...they think they're out for an escapade but they really dig the most just having the freedom to indulge their hobbies, lol. they aren't the swingers they wish to be.

 

>

> *i never saw the ending, I hope Cassavettes got his due.*

>

>

> He deserved to get it, but...

>

>

 

but what?

 

> I do like my share of just plain ol' fun, but *Dodge City* just didn't do much for me. But I did love Errol Flynn. He and Clark Gable are always seem to have a sparkle in their eye. I can't say I've found many peformers who match them with that.

>

 

i do think they were the best at that. they take big bites out of life, with relish.

 

>

> Why does the "Iowa Corn Song" bother you? Too much hokum? It's so very "Jean."

>

 

i love "hokum" from Will Rogers and a few others, but the way Wilder presents it turns me off. It feels cruel. Even though it ends as it does, that all feels phony. Where Wilder feels true is in Marlene's tone.

 

> That's two films where I have liked Ronald Reagan. He's terrific in *Kings Row* and very good in *Desperate Journey*.

>

 

He made a great "pal" in the movies.

 

I was watching him and Eleanor Parker the other day in *One for the Book* (aka The Voice of the Turtle) and that is a movie I'd recommend. It's a pleasant little wartime romance. It's not quite a comedy and not quite a drama, a nice balance of both. It's based on a very acclaimed Broadway play. It's one of the most relaxed love stories I"ve seen from that period, lol. There's precious little angst or passion, though I missed the ending. It may have changed tone by then.

 

>

> *You liked Taylor? I found him less interesting than in Ride, Vaquero!, a movie I prefer.*

>

>

> I actually did like Robert Taylor in *The Law and Jake Wade*. I liked the situation he was in. I thought his personality fit well against Richard Widmark.

>

 

Yes, Widmark is best paired with low-key types. I just wish they'd had a better script or something.

 

> *The Little Hut* is such an odd film. The way Susan (Ava Gardner) behaves with Henry (David Niven) is quite strange. And Philip (Stewart Granger) is such a moron. The film itself plays moronic. Ava is gorgeous in the film, though.

>

 

It was very unfunny to me.

 

> I was waiting for you to mention how annoying John Dall was.

>

 

No need, it's always implied with me!

 

> Something tells me Pat wouldn't put up with Duke away from the big screen. But I do love how relaxed she is on screen.

>

 

I love her style. Very southern.

 

> Oh, really? I didn't know *Peyton Place* was seen that way. I can see how it was, though. The big moment is very shocking.

>

 

the book, first of all, was a sensation. it was banned in a lot of town libraries, lol, which of course made it sweep the nation. i don't think since *gone with the wind* or *rebecca* was a movie adaptation so anticipated like this one. the book is more graphic about certain things, of course. i've read it, it's alright.

 

>

> *I love seeing Lana playing prim, talk about acting! No wonder they have her an Oscar nom.*

>

>

> I loved her that way! It really was the best I have ever seen Lana.

>

 

i'm just glad you finally like her in something. she's a pet.

i like the scene in the diner, near the beginning, when lloyd nolan and lee phillips just sit down at her booth without asking.

 

> That's wonderfully said. She really is lovely. I liked that she was working at Constance's (Lana Turner) dress shop, trying to make ends meet.

>

 

how did you like terry moore? i think she's adorable because it ended up she really cared about her guy.

 

> Jean is really adorable. Clark seemed to be beaming during the film. Maybe it's just the character. He's always so friendly and accommodating since he's a bookie looking to bait the suckers.

>

 

boy, that's a credit to his acting, then, because everyone was really down over jean's death. he plays to a double in some shots, i believe.

 

> It really is a great character and performance by Eddie. There are layers with "Larsen." Lots of passion, and you end up having some compassion for him. It's almost like a transitional character for him since he would soon start to play more "quiet" characters after a decade of "loud." You get a mix with Larsen.

>

 

that's why i like it. and it's in this confined world...what's more restricted than a ship?

 

> It wasn't a stretch to believe Sterling as a big, ol' farm boy. I loved how he went out of his way to get Selina (Jane Wyman). If it was only as easy as bidding on a lady's lunch basket at an auction. I also liked how he got after Selina with some things, too.

>

 

he really influenced her. she was kind of dreamy and got everything from books until she met him and then he sort of became her ideal. i thought his departure was too abrupt, though. in fact, i missed it altogether because turned away for a minute!

 

> Jenny (Joan Crawford) is a demanding, cold woman who is challenged by the blind Tye (Michael Wilding). He starts to soften her and then she softens him. I really liked the conversation Jenny has with her mother (Marjorie Rambeau). She speaks of her husband (Susan's father) and all the articles she scrapbooked about Jenny. It's a sweet scene. A scene I didn't expect to see in a film like *Torch Song*.

>

 

i don't remember the bit with rambeau. i may have to re-watch it.

 

i'd suggest you try *humoresque* if you haven't yet. it's one of my favorite crawford films.

 

> That definitely sounds like you! But you would have slapped the heck out of Duke for taking you to the ruins in the middle of the night!

>

 

love among the ruins with john wayne? i wouldn't object.

[rohanaka]

Howdy Mr. Grey***So what in the wide world of sports is going on with your posting? You can't hit return to separate your sentences ***Actually YES. I hit "return" and it SHOWS (in my typing box here) that I am separating my paragraphs.. but then when it posts.. it all runs together. I started adding*** to the end of each line where there SHOULD be a space after it.. just to try and make it easier to read. I am not sure exactly what the issue is but it seems to be happening to me and only just a few others. (and not a whole website issue) according the TCM webgurus.. it only seems to happen to me when I use my laptop.. which is pretty much all the time lately because my other computer is having issues of its own.. ha. But I did do a "test" in the mechanical issues forum on this computer and the other one.. and it only seems to act up on my laptop. (which I do believe matches what another poster has said.. because he is using Windows 7 and I believe that is what this laptop is too.. but my main computer is NOT that.. so it might be what is the issue. Who KNOWS??? IN the meantime.. I guess I get to just look like a doofus (ha.. more than usual) and run all my lines together (because did I mention my OTHER computer is having issues.. so Iam sticking with the laptop. Ugh.. technology.. ha) ***Mr. Grey says: Well, you did get me with that one. The issue I have is that I have to buy the DVD and I rarely do so with "newer" films ***To which Rohanaka responds.. HA.. I DID get you with that one twice OVER too.. (because did I mention that I recently watched Winchester 73??????????????????????????????) ha. But I can understand you might not want to buy it. It is on youtube (for a small fee) and I bet you can find it at the library too. Anyway.. I do hope someday you will give it a try. It truly is a film that for whatever reason I just have a lot of emotion for.. and I think there are at least PORTIONS of it that you would find to your liking too. (I hope) Maybe someday you'll check it out. (and until you DO.. ha. at least I get bragging rights over watching. (did I mention??) WINCHESTER 73!!!!!!!!!!!!! ***Meanwhile.. aside from browbeating you with THAT one.. ha. I also just wanted to pop in and say you have convinced me to check out The Ladykillers.. i'll try to keep an open mind. Will likely have to wait til they show it later this summer though. Not on youtube (for free, anway) and the library did not have it either. I set up a "reminder" for mysefl. so will hope to catch it and give it a try the next time it is on. *** Hmmm.. that will make me TWO up on you.. oh me!! How WILL I ever let you live THAT down??

[FrankGrimes]

Ciao, Francie -- *You haven't seen Humoresque yet? I like him in that. He had a wonderfully acerbic sense of humor. There are these actors, usually musicians, who pop up as side-kicks and act almost like the conscience of the (usually self-absorbed) lead in many movie. Levant, Dooley Wilson, Juano Hernandez, Hoagy Carmichael were all good at those kinds of characters. I usually like them better than the leads! *

 

I haven't seen *Humoresque*, but I will watch it in the next group. It's a film I'm kind of wary of.

 

 

I definitely agree with you about the comedic, sidekick musicians. Levant was a lot of fun in *The Barkleys of Broadway*.

 

*i like each of the boys' fantasies...they think they're out for an escapade but they really dig the most just having the freedom to indulge their hobbies, lol. they aren't the swingers they wish to be.*

 

 

That's a terrific way of saying it: freedom to indulge in their hobbies. With guys, that can be all that is needed, actually. Well, almost. I liked the one's wanting to eat some good food. It reminded me of *Frenzy*. You women and your impositions!

 

 

*i never saw the ending, I hope Cassavettes got his due.*

 

 

*He deserved to get it, but...*

 

 

*but what?*

 

 

He is saved.

 

 

*i do think they were the best at that. they take big bites out of life, with relish.*

 

 

Gable and Flynn are bigger and bolder than life, without a doubt.

 

 

*i love "hokum" from Will Rogers and a few others, but the way Wilder presents it turns me off. It feels cruel. Even though it ends as it does, that all feels phony. Where Wilder feels true is in Marlene's tone.*

 

 

You may be right about that. But I liked Wilder's "cruelty" with Jean's "Miss Frost." She's finally letting herself go and she's having fun doing it. Her fun is pure innocence. The others are far from innocent.

 

 

*He made a great "pal" in the movies.*

 

 

It looks like you're right about Ronald Reagan, with that. I even liked him in *Dark Victory*.

 

 

*I was watching him and Eleanor Parker the other day in One for the Book (aka The Voice of the Turtle) and that is a movie I'd recommend. It's a pleasant little wartime romance. It's not quite a comedy and not quite a drama, a nice balance of both. It's based on a very acclaimed Broadway play. It's one of the most relaxed love stories I"ve seen from that period, lol. There's precious little angst or passion, though I missed the ending. It may have changed tone by then.*

 

 

Now that's a title I do not have.

 

 

*Yes, Widmark is best paired with low-key types. I just wish they'd had a better script or something.*

 

 

The script is short, you are right. Still, I liked how Jake (Robert Taylor) was a prisoner of his past, ala Link (Gary Cooper) in *Man from the West*. He also had the woman (Patricia Owens) he loved in peril with him.

 

 

*It was very unfunny to me.*

 

 

I definitely agree with you about that. *The Little Hut* is very unfunny. It's rough sledding.

 

 

*I love her style. Very southern.*

 

 

Pat Neal isn't snippy! I thought all southern belles were snippy. Or is it just...

 

 

*the book, first of all, was a sensation. it was banned in a lot of town libraries, lol, which of course made it sweep the nation. i don't think since gone with the wind or rebecca was a movie adaptation so anticipated like this one. the book is more graphic about certain things, of course. i've read it, it's alright.*

 

 

I didn't know the book was that popular. Was *Kings Row* also a popular book?

 

 

*i'm just glad you finally like her in something. she's a pet.*

 

 

She's a pet! That's cute! I have liked Lana in some other roles. She's wonderful in the first half of *Cass Timberlane*. I also like her in ***** Tonk*.

 

 

*i like the scene in the diner, near the beginning, when lloyd nolan and lee phillips just sit down at her booth without asking.*

 

 

And Constance (Lana Turner) really loved that, too.

 

 

*how did you like terry moore? i think she's adorable because it ended up she really cared about her guy.*

 

 

She's all right. Her character's arc was good. It reminded me of Jean Harlow in *Suzy*. Her father-in-law disapproved of her but soon came to love her as a daughter. Both Betty (Terry Moore) and Rodney (Barry Coe) loved each other even though both were rather reckless in how they showed it.

 

 

*boy, that's a credit to his acting, then, because everyone was really down over jean's death. he plays to a double in some shots, i believe.*

 

 

I'd say the last 10-20 minutes is when Jean disappears. It's not as bad I was expecting. And she's enjoyable in the film.

 

 

*that's why i like it. and it's in this confined world...what's more restricted than a ship?*

 

 

A plane! A train! A car! But, to your point, it's the amount of time that is needed to complete a trip on a ship. There is no getting out.

 

 

*he really influenced her. she was kind of dreamy and got everything from books until she met him and then he sort of became her ideal.*

 

 

I wonder if that really happens in life. I'd say it does, but I wonder.

 

 

*i thought his departure was too abrupt, though. in fact, i missed it altogether because turned away for a minute!*

 

 

I was very surprised to see his early exit.

 

 

*i don't remember the bit with rambeau. i may have to re-watch it.*

 

 

Oh, it's a rather small scene towards the end. The rest of the film can be a real tough watch.

 

 

*love among the ruins with john wayne? i wouldn't object.*

 

 

You'd slap him and tell him "you ruined everything!" Or is that just with me?!

[FrankGrimes]

Hiya, Ma Stone -- *Actually YES. I hit "return" and it SHOWS (in my typing box here) that I am separating my paragraphs.. but then when it posts.. it all runs together.*

 

That's messed up. I wonder if "<br/>" would work.

 

*HA.. I DID get you with that one twice OVER too.. (because did I mention that I recently watched Winchester 73??????????????????????????????) ha. But I can understand you might not want to buy it. It is on youtube (for a small fee) and I bet you can find it at the library too. Anyway.. I do hope someday you will give it a try. It truly is a film that for whatever reason I just have a lot of emotion for.. and I think there are at least PORTIONS of it that you would find to your liking too. (I hope) Maybe someday you'll check it out. (and until you DO.. ha. at least I get bragging rights over watching. (did I mention??) WINCHESTER 73!!!!!!!!!!!!! *

 

All right, I'll have to break down and buy the film. At least it's cheap. But I may wait a little before doing it.

 

[rohanaka]

<br/> What is that and how would I even use it to try and see if it would work?? ha. (you DO remember who you are talking to, don't you???? the Queen of Technophobia. HA. ***Meanwhile... The Grey Dude says: All right, I'll have to break down and buy the film ***NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!! Don't DO it!! Just wait until TCM plays it (I think they have before.. maybe?) Or wait until you find a copy to borrow from someone or SOMETHING. Again I say you DO remember with whom you are speaking, don't you??? Not only am I the reigning TechnoNot around here.. you will recalll that I am ALSO the Queen of "Don't Spend a DIME if you can Spend a Penny" and also the Queen of BAD movie picks for the Grey Dude" HA.***I mean GOOD GRAVY, Grey Dude, I have the WORST track record EVER for picking movies (that YOU would like) ha.. So yeah.. whatever you do NOT go out and spend money to see EOS. (Besides, I've waited THIS long, for crying out loud, man. Because OH ME.. all issues of money aside, what if you hated it?? ha. How would I ever LIVE that down?? ha (to quote the little green dinosaur from Toy Story "Oh great.. now I have GUILT!") ***Oh forevermore.. "Ill have to break down and buy the film." he says. What are you trying to do, Grey Dude.. give me apoplexy or something??? ha.

[FrankGrimes]

*What is that and how would I even use it to try and see if it would work?? ha. (you DO remember who you are talking to, don't you???? the Queen of Technophobia. HA.*

 

That is used in HTML code to signify the end of a line. You type "<br/>" at the end of a line. But I doubt it would work since we're not writing in code.

 

*NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!! Don't DO it!! Just wait until TCM plays it (I think they have before.. maybe?) Or wait until you find a copy to borrow from someone or SOMETHING. Again I say you DO remember with whom you are speaking, don't you??? Not only am I the reigning TechnoNot around here.. you will recalll that I am ALSO the Queen of "Don't Spend a DIME if you can Spend a Penny" and also the Queen of BAD movie picks for the Grey Dude" HA. I mean GOOD GRAVY, Grey Dude, I have the WORST track record EVER for picking movies (that YOU would like) ha.. So yeah.. whatever you do NOT go out and spend money to see EOS. (Besides, I've waited THIS long, for crying out loud, man. Because OH ME.. all issues of money aside, what if you hated it?? ha. How would I ever LIVE that down?? ha (to quote the little green dinosaur from Toy Story "Oh great.. now I have GUILT!") *

 

I knew that would get you back! My brother likes the film, so the odds are I'll think it's all right. He owns it on laser disc, but his player doesn't work anymore.

 

It would run me just $6.49.

 

[rohanaka]

You type "<br/>" at the end of a line. But I doubt it would work since we're not writing in code ***Well.. I never heard of such things.. but HEY who knows.. at least if I try it, I can say I tried everything. <br/>OH the suspense!! Oh the intrigue!! ha. I am on the edge of my seat to find out if it worked (ha!) But just in case.. I will add my new signature.. ha. Just so you can tell I am finished with THIS line***In the meantime: I knew that would get you back HA!!! Well then I rescind my guilt.. ha. I was duped! Meanwhile.. I'll just hold my breath while I wait.. and wait.. (and WAIT ) to see if you ever do watch it. Ha! *** It would run me just $6.49 ***Six dollars and forty nine cents?? I'll have you know that just last night I fed a family of three for LESS than that (hey.. you would even have enjoyed it, Bratwurst and SAURKRAUT with potatoes!! Delish! But then again.. you'd likely turn up your NOSE since no sawdust was involved. (take THAT!!)***I am editing my post.. ha.. so much for that BR-549 trick.. i mean <br/> ha. (ps, SaLUTE to all you Hee Haw fans out there)

 

Edited by: rohanaka on Jun 15, 2013 12:54 PM

[JackFavell]

Yummy! That sounds tasty. We had Italian sausages here, and homemade potato salad with kale chips.

 

Nice to see you posting my friend, even if you don't have paragraphs.

[rohanaka]

Helllloooo Jackie!! Nice to be talking to YOU again too (ha... paragraphs or no paragraphs) I love Italian Sausage (especially with onions and peppers.. yum) But alas. they do NOT like me much anymore.. so I really have to be careful. I just made homemade potato salad last weekend. Oh me.. i like that stuff about any way you can fix it (except with cheese.. eww) ha. I have never had Kale chips though.. I have seen them prepared on Foodnetwork several times, though. I don't know how they would go over 'round these parts or not.. but they don't look too hard to fix, if only to give them try someday, just to find out. ha. Do they have a very strong flavor.. or are they pretty much just crispy?

[JackFavell]

It's so easy to make them! They are crispy, and they do have a certain green flavor to them, but if salted, I defy anyone not to like them! Except for maybe Frank Grimes.

 

If you have spray oil it works better, like PAM, but if not that's OK. I just oil a pan (cookie sheets or jelly roll pans work best), tear off 1 inch size pieces, no stem, of kale and throw them down onto the pan preferably not touching one another. When I have a full tray (you can go with a ton of little pieces, they kind of shrink) I either spray the oil on top in a light layer, or I stir the oil and pieces up with my fingers until they are all coated (I hate to use extra bowls or bags) and then I move them back into one even layer of kale on the cookie sheet. salt them, and pop them into a 350 or 375 degree oven, for no more than 5 minutes. It's good to watch them the first time, because they burn easily. Sometimes I just use the broiler (but not too high a setting) and then I can watch them for done-ness, A little brown is OK, but they go from that into a charred mess in seconds. Sometimes they are crispier than others, but I like them no matter what. My family will literally devour them in seconds once I put them in a bowl on the table. They are quite delicate. Sometimes we crumble them over our food, they are great over a baked potato. Adds such a nice crunch!

 

I like them because they are so easy to make and you can literally use only a few leaves and have an entire meal's worth. Also good because you don't have to really think about cooking it till the end, after everything else is done. The hardest part is tearing up the kale.

 

Edited by: JackFavell on Jun 15, 2013 2:14 PM

[rohanaka]

That soundslike something the kidling would LOVE (ha.. what can I say.. she is a veggi-holic) We will have to give them a try sometime.*** I defy anyone not to like them! Except for maybe Frank Grimes ***Ha.. yes.. well. There is just NO reasoning with SOME people.

[JackFavell]

For a time, this was the only vegetable Alice would eat with gusto, so I bet the kidling would love it!

 

And super easy for mom too. Cause that's the bottom line.

 

Oh yeah, I always get the kale that's in bunches, it's fresher than the kale in big bags already pre-cut. That stuff is awful around here, tough and not very good no matter how you cook it.

 

Edited by: JackFavell on Jun 15, 2013 2:34 PM

[FrankGrimes]

*You type "<br/>" at the end of a line. But I doubt it would work since we're not writing in code Well.. I never heard of such things.. but HEY who knows.. at least if I try it, I can say I tried everything. <br/>OH the suspense!! Oh the intrigue!! ha. I am on the edge of my seat to find out if it worked (ha!) But just in case.. I will add my new signature.. ha.*

 

It didn't work. Blah. It's probably a JavaScript issue. The only other thing I can think of trying is holding down "Shift" and hitting "Enter."

 

Have you tried writing in the "Plain Text" window?

 

*Six dollars and forty nine cents?? I'll have you know that just last night I fed a family of three for LESS than that (hey.. you would even have enjoyed it, Bratwurst and SAURKRAUT with potatoes!! Delish! But then again.. you'd likely turn up your NOSE since no sawdust was involved. *

 

I'm impressed by your having a meal for that little! That's very hard to do these days. I don't have mouths to feed, so I can spend a little money on myself.

 

I give myself a budget for the year and even plot what titles I'm to get and for what price. I've almost exhausted my budget for "unplanned" DVDs, but I'll probably just increase my budget.

 

I only eat sauerkraut with pork! And I don't like brats. I'd have a hot dog!

[FrankGrimes]

*It's so easy to make them! They are crispy, and they do have a certain green flavor to them, but if salted, I defy anyone not to like them! Except for maybe Frank Grimes. *

 

I would be the test, that's for sure. I love chips, but I hate green. But I will say that I'm not crazy about certain chips. I won't touch sour cream and onion. Blech! I don't like Pringles, either.

[JackFavell]

How can you not like sour cream and onion? Oh lordy. I can understand all these new flavors like salt and vinegar or salsa flavored chips or BLT, but sour cream and onion is a staple. Practically.

[rohanaka]

The only other thing I can think of trying is holding down "Shift" and hitting "Enter ***Ha.. at first I didn't see the F in your word SHIFT and... WELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ha.. I just gave it a try (with the F included I mean. HA!) and we'll see what happens. but I am still putting in my *** just in case.. ha. (you and your wives tale cure alls.. What's next.. are you going to have me swing a dead chicken over top of my keyboard and sprinkle a ring of salt around the laptop too??????????? Ha.) Oh wait.. I forgot YOU are my "Miyagisan" You have gotten me out of more techno issues than I can count on here.. so I DO need to show more respect. (just don't come back w/ any chicken ideas though.. or I really WILL start to doubt you.. ha) So here I go again.. at the end of this line.. I will hit shiFt.. right after my lovely little collection of ***Have you tried writing in the "Plain Text" window ***Are you KIDDING?? ha. I only use that window.. I never use Rich Text.. (because it always acts up on me if I try to edit something later. But I will say that ever since I started having this issue.. I can't even get a cursor in rich text.. it will only start blinking for me after I hit the Plain text button. who knows??? ***I only eat sauerkraut with pork! And I don't like brats. I'd have a hot dog ***OH for pity's sake.. ha. You are hopeless. (these were Johnsonville Stadium Brats.. cut up and heated in the oven with the Kraut.. oh baby.. very yummy. Eat your stinkin' hot dogs if you WANT to.. ha.. but give me a Brat any day)