hlywdkjk Posted September 3, 2008 Author Share Posted September 3, 2008 *" my favorite Coen film, which actually is saying a lot. Blood Simple, Fargo, and Barton Fink are my next favorites."* - FrankGrimes No "Turn to the left." ? No "Ya know? For the kids!" ? Tsk. Tsk. Tsk. Kyle In Hollywood -------------------------- "Oohh, I bought a goat and his name was Jack. But he got homesick so I had to give him ba-a-a-ack" *F.McGee.* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankGrimes Posted September 3, 2008 Share Posted September 3, 2008 Hi there, Little Mermaid! Frank, did you make a mummy from my link? I did not. I did go to the link but once I saw my lazy bones needed to do something, I left the scene. I'm a very patient guy with many things, but there are some things where I'm terribly impatient. Did it bring back unpleasant memories of when you were embalmed? Those were the days! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minya Posted September 3, 2008 Share Posted September 3, 2008 *What's up, Birthday Girl? How was your party? Any swashbucklers?* If everyone is to be believed, it was a success. Most people dressed up and we all looked pretty fabulous, if I do say so myself. I was horribly abused though-the dress I was wearing had a halter top and while it wasn't what I would call a plunging neckline, it was more revealing than what I would normally wear-the boys took full advantage of my being distracted by looking after everyone by catching me every once in a while to say "Nicole, there's something on your dress" and of course I would lean over without thinking to see what it was and then they'd all laugh uproariously. It's a good thing I've known them all for a looong time. Speaking of swashbucklers, my friend Gary got me this totally fab pirate hat. I don't know what I'll do with it, but I did wear it while I was cleaning up Saturday night. It just seemed right. *Both won Oscars* Why didn't I remember that? Javier Bardem must have been nominated for Supporting. That makes me happy-Daniel Day Lewis always was so-so with me, but that is a well deserved award. *I'm not that aware of scores unless they strike some sort of chord with me for some damn reason that I have no idea about. For example, I LOVE the simplicity of John Carpenter's scores. But in general, a music score usually goes right by me. I'm usually too focused on the visuals and words to notice the music. My brother is the one with the ear for scores. He owns quite a few scores on CD. Me? Zilch. Well, unless you count Simpsons CDs.* Soundtracks and scores easily make up the largest part of my music selection. Sometimes music can overwhelm a movie and be too cluey when it should kind of stay in the background and enhance the movie. I loved the dissonance of the music for this-it perfectly fit the tone of the movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronxgirl48 Posted September 3, 2008 Share Posted September 3, 2008 "Bronxulus" -- hahahaha, good one. I put some pepper on my spumoni ice cream on Labor Day. Glad you appreciated my efforts for your birthday. And you must read your Virgo horoscope (the link I provided Minya) if you want to get a jump on the future. Not that you have any, but it helps to be optimistic. My ESL class resumed today. When we review the alphabet, I always use the word "zombie" under Z, then walk around the room stiff and glassy-eyed. That always gets a laugh. It's amazing how American movie monsters translate so well to students around the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankGrimes Posted September 3, 2008 Share Posted September 3, 2008 What's that tune you're playin', Music Man? -- No "Turn to the left." ? No "Ya know? For the kids!" ? Tsk. Tsk. Tsk. I still have some "big" Coen films to peep and The Hudsucker Proxy would be one of them. I'm glad it's still on my "need to see" list because when I did catch moments of the film in the past, I wasn't prepared for it. Why? Because I wasn't into classic film. Now that I'm into classic film, I'm thinking The Hudsucker Proxy is going to do well by me. Raising Arizona is the next film on my list, followed by Miller's Crossing. Unlike many on this board, O' Brother, Where Art Thou? is my least favorite Coen film to date. I say this without having seen The Hudsucker Proxy, The Big Lebowski, Intolerable Cruelty, and The Ladykillers. Most everyone says The Ladykillers is their worst. A fair evening to you, O' Lady of Belgian Waffle House -- I put some pepper on my spumoni ice cream on Labor Day. What's "spumoni" ice cream? Glad you appreciated my efforts for your birthday. You hit many high notes with me. I was flattered. Thank you. I also owe J-Girl a few hugs and kisses, too. She always treats me well. And you must read your Virgo horoscope (the link I provided Minya) if you want to get a jump on the future. I started reading it but then I saw how long a read it was and that was all she wrote for me. I'm not much of a reader. I'll rely on you to inform me of my impending doom with a green-sweatered girl that I meet after running over a kid on a bike. Not that you have any, but it helps to be optimistic. Now that made me laugh out loud. Yet another successful reading, Zeena! My ESL class resumed today. When we review the alphabet, I always use the word "zombie" under Z, then walk around the room stiff and glassy-eyed. That always gets a laugh. It's amazing how American movie monsters translate so well to students around the world. You're not planning on bringing me into class for show and tell, are you? You know, "G", as in "gentleman." I know who can be "S." When you start to walk around like a zombie, does this guy enter the room: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankGrimes Posted September 3, 2008 Share Posted September 3, 2008 If everyone is to be believed, it was a success. Most people dressed up and we all looked pretty fabulous, if I do say so myself. Fantastic! I was horribly abused though-the dress I was wearing had a halter top and while it wasn't what I would call a plunging neckline, it was more revealing than what I would normally wear-the boys took full advantage of my being distracted by looking after everyone by catching me every once in a while to say "Nicole, there's something on your dress" and of course I would lean over without thinking to see what it was and then they'd all laugh uproariously. It's a good thing I've known them all for a looong time. Ahhhh, yes, the party was indeed a trampy success. Speaking of swashbucklers, my friend Gary got me this totally fab pirate hat. I don't know what I'll do with it, but I did wear it while I was cleaning up Saturday night. It just seemed right. Now that's very cute. You just never know when a pirate hat may come in handy. Both won Oscars Why didn't I remember that? Javier Bardem must have been nominated for Supporting. That makes me happy-Daniel Day Lewis always was so-so with me, but that is a well deserved award. You are correct, Javier won for "Best Supporting Actor." I need to see more Day-Lewis flicks. Soundtracks and scores easily make up the largest part of my music selection. Wow! I would not have thought this. Sometimes music can overwhelm a movie and be too cluey when it should kind of stay in the background and enhance the movie. I loved the dissonance of the music for this-it perfectly fit the tone of the movie. Dissonance? Did you get a dictionary for your birthday? At least you dropped a "fab" on me, so that chicktionary of yours is still being put to good use. I prefer understated music that helps enhance the atmosphere versus music that serves to make you feel a scene. I like to be softly manipulated, not slapped in the face. Of course, I say all of this while stating Bernard Herrmann is my favorite composer. So trampy vamps are named "Nicole" nowadays. Very nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Film_Fatale Posted September 3, 2008 Share Posted September 3, 2008 > {quote:title=FrankGrimes wrote:}{quote} > When you start to walk around like a zombie, does this guy enter the room: > > Who wouldn't like to be serenaded by the man with the guitar? B-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minya Posted September 3, 2008 Share Posted September 3, 2008 *Wow! I would not have thought this.* I watch a lot of movies. *Dissonance? Did you get a dictionary for your birthday? At least you dropped a "fab" on me, so that chicktionary of yours is still being put to good use.* I'm a smart person is all. *I prefer understated music that helps enhance the atmosphere versus music that serves to make you feel a scene.* That's when a score is doing a good job-you shouldn't have to be clobbered over the head with it. *I like to be softly manipulated, not slapped in the face.* Ahh, don't we all? I have a feeling, though that you have to deal with face slapping a lot. *Of course, I say all of this while stating Bernard Herrmann is my favorite composer.* Just because a composer has created iconic music doesn't necessarily mean that their music is overwhelming-I mean, the violin screeches for the shower scene in Psycho are very present, but they helped create that scene, not take away from it. You can be aware of it without feeling like someone is holding a sign in front of your face that says "Here's where you get scared!". *So trampy vamps are named "Nicole" nowadays. Very nice.* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Film_Fatale Posted September 3, 2008 Share Posted September 3, 2008 > {quote:title=Minya wrote:}{quote} > Just because a composer has created iconic music doesn't necessarily mean that their music is overwhelming-I mean, the violin screeches for the shower scene in Psycho are very present, but they helped create that scene, not take away from it. You can be aware of it without feeling like someone is holding a sign in front of your face that says "Here's where you get scared!". > Not necessarily overwhelming - in the case of *Vertigo*, however, definitely intoxicating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFavell Posted September 3, 2008 Share Posted September 3, 2008 I was glad to see Barton Fink in your top 3 - it's a sadly overlooked movie, and my favorite Coen Bros. one. I also like O Brother Where art Thou? so I guess I'm following a different path than most on this website. Hudsucker is so great, I just love it, but I have heard that some people can't get around Jennifer Jason Leigh's character. Personally, I find the whole thing enchanting. Blood Simple is just fun, I really need to watch it again. I did not go see The Ladykillers and intend to avoid it as long as possible. Why watch this movie when I have the original here at home? It' is the one mistake I think the Coen Bros. made.... Miller's Crossing is my least favorite, even with Gabriel Byrne (pant pant) in it. I may have to give it another try though...in fact, I will, now that I reminded myself about Gabriel (hubba hubba). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Film_Fatale Posted September 3, 2008 Share Posted September 3, 2008 I really loved *The Hudsucker Proxy* when it was first released, and consider myself lucky to have seen it in a cinema (the movie didn't stay in theaters for very long). As for *The Ladykillers*, I thought it was just swell, although of course I also enjoy the original British version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFavell Posted September 3, 2008 Share Posted September 3, 2008 I think Hudsucker played for two days at our theatre! I also saw it on the big screen- just beautiful. Maybe I should actually try The Ladykillers. I just love the other so much, I have a hard time imagining that I would get anything from it.... I also didn't like The Man Who Wasn't There. I felt they didn't have a fully realized movie there. There just wasn't anything to build a plot on, so it seems thin to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Film_Fatale Posted September 3, 2008 Share Posted September 3, 2008 I don't know. Maybe I'm too much of a Coen fan to say anything bad about *any* of their movies. I think they're always interesting to watch simply because the Coens are so ideosyncratic and totally uninterested (I think) in anything that doesn't really excite them creatively - they're not out to please mass audiences, or critics necessarily (although sometimes they do precisely that). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFavell Posted September 3, 2008 Share Posted September 3, 2008 Very true, FF. I guess it's easy to complain, but really, I am just glad they exist! If they weren't out there making the crazy movies that they do, my world would be a sadder place. And besides, their worst is better than most.... Message was edited by: JackFavell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Film_Fatale Posted September 3, 2008 Share Posted September 3, 2008 Exactly. Even a "weak" movie from the Coen Bros. easily seems far more interesting than most of the corporate product put out most of the time by the big studios. And many top-notch actors are always ready to work for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFavell Posted September 3, 2008 Share Posted September 3, 2008 Hey, the new one is out this next week, isn't it? Brad Pitt's hair makes me laugh in the preview. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Film_Fatale Posted September 3, 2008 Share Posted September 3, 2008 Yes, it opens here on the 12th and in most of Europe next month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minya Posted September 3, 2008 Share Posted September 3, 2008 *Not necessarily overwhelming - in the case of Vertigo, however, definitely intoxicating.* Agreed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minya Posted September 3, 2008 Share Posted September 3, 2008 *I still have some "big" Coen films to peep and The Hudsucker Proxy would be one of them. I'm glad it's still on my "need to see" list because when I did catch moments of the film in the past, I wasn't prepared for it. Why? Because I wasn't into classic film. Now that I'm into classic film, I'm thinking The Hudsucker Proxy is going to do well by me.* *Raising Arizona is the next film on my list, followed by Miller's Crossing. Unlike many on this board, O' Brother, Where Art Thou? is my least favorite Coen film to date. I say this without having seen The Hudsucker Proxy, The Big Lebowski, Intolerable Cruelty, and The Ladykillers. Most everyone says The Ladykillers is their worst.* I would say that Fargo and O Brother Where Art Thou are my very favorites. Plus OBWAT had once of the best soundtracks ever. It made me look at George Clooney (who I've never been overly impressed with) in a different light and reassess him as an actor. Raising Arizona (turn to the RIGHT!-I always use Holly Hunter's voice when I'm giving someone directions) is next. Big Lebowski-I'd like to watch this again-it didn't make a big impact on me the first time around and that surprised me. So many people I know and whose film tastes I share count this as their most favorite Coen Brothers movie. I loved Barton Fink. The Man Who Wasn't There was less enjoyable, but not horrible. I never saw Intolerable Cruelty and as for The Ladykillers, well it's better not spoken of. A rare misfire. MIller's Crossing was good, but I haven't seen it in ages. Blood Simple-amazing. I'm looking forward to seeing Hudsucker Proxy-I've heard good and bad things about it, but something about it's look appeals to me. I'm really looking foward to the new movie-everything about the previews screams hilarious. And it will nice to see Brad Pitt (again, not someone I'm overly impressed with) in a comedic role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFavell Posted September 3, 2008 Share Posted September 3, 2008 The thing about Hudsucker is, you HAVE to be a classic movie fan to get it. That's why some don't like it, I think. For a long time it was my favorite Coen movie. I go back and forth between Barton Fink and this one, depending on how depressed I am... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Film_Fatale Posted September 3, 2008 Share Posted September 3, 2008 > {quote:title=JackFavell wrote:}{quote} > The thing about Hudsucker is, you HAVE to be a classic movie fan to get it. That's why some don't like it, I think. For a long time it was my favorite Coen movie. I go back and forth between Barton Fink and this one, depending on how depressed I am... Maybe that's why so many people didn't get *Hudsucker Proxy*. Either that or they were put off by the title. *Barton Fink* is great, especially for anyone who's ever experienced writer's block. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankGrimes Posted September 3, 2008 Share Posted September 3, 2008 Hey there, Coen Sister -- I was glad to see Barton Fink in your top 3 - it's a sadly overlooked movie, and my favorite Coen Bros. one. I always knew you were nuts. It's no wonder I like you so much. 1. No Country for Old Men 2. Blood Simple 3. Fargo 4. Barton Fink 5. Raising Arizona 6. Miller's Crossing 7. The Man Who Wasn't There 8. O' Brother, Where Art Thou? I also like O Brother Where art Thou? so I guess I'm following a different path than most on this website. Actually, I think you are in the majority with that one. Hudsucker is so great, I just love it, but I have heard that some people can't get around Jennifer Jason Leigh's character. Personally, I find the whole thing enchanting. I really do need to check it out. Blood Simple is just fun, I really need to watch it again. I just love the film. It's the best "neo-noir" for me. I did not go see The Ladykillers and intend to avoid it as long as possible. Why watch this movie when I have the original here at home? It' is the one mistake I think the Coen Bros. made.... I haven't seen either. This is probably a good thing for me when viewing the Coen's remake. Miller's Crossing is my least favorite, even with Gabriel Byrne (pant pant) in it. I may have to give it another try though...in fact, I will, now that I reminded myself about Gabriel (hubba hubba). It's arguably their fiercest film. I rank it sixth on my list, but I like it a lot. Hola, Miss Plunging -- I watch a lot of movies. Oh, yeah? So you're just new to classic film? Dissonance? Did you get a dictionary for your birthday? At least you dropped a "fab" on me, so that chicktionary of yours is still being put to good use. I'm a smart person is all. Now what stupid person told you that? I prefer understated music that helps enhance the atmosphere versus music that serves to make you feel a scene. That's when a score is doing a good job-you shouldn't have to be clobbered over the head with it. I'm not big on "sweeping" scores. They come across too phony to me. Not all, but many. I like to be softly manipulated, not slapped in the face. Ahh, don't we all? No, not all. I have a feeling, though that you have to deal with face slapping a lot. My cheeks have been quite "rosy" of late. Of course, I say all of this while stating Bernard Herrmann is my favorite composer. Just because a composer has created iconic music doesn't necessarily mean that their music is overwhelming-I mean, the violin screeches for the shower scene in Psycho are very present, but they helped create that scene, not take away from it. You can be aware of it without feeling like someone is holding a sign in front of your face that says "Here's where you get scared!". Very nicely said. Maybe you're smart after all... Nicole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minya Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 *Oh, yeah? So you're just new to classic film?* Mostly, yes. I used to be way more into seeing movies in the theatre all the time, but I became more and more frustrated that people weren't able to sit still for 90 minutes without calling someone on their cellphone, noisily unwrapping something, or chatting in general. Plus, people in Seattle like the whole place to know what they're thinking as the movie progresses, especially if they can sound REALLY self important. I really want to have to see something to go to a theatre anymore. So I Netflix a lot of stuff until right before the Oscars and then I try to see as many things as I can that are up for nomination. I throw an Oscar party every year, so I like to be informed. And man, when they moved the show from March to February-that really messed with my system-so much stuff comes out on video right after they have the awards. *Now what stupid person told you that?* Everyone says so. Hmph! Also, I am sticking my tongue out at you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankGrimes Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 I used to be way more into seeing movies in the theatre all the time, but I became more and more frustrated that people weren't able to sit still for 90 minutes without calling someone on their cellphone, noisily unwrapping something, or chatting in general. Plus, people in Seattle like the whole place to know what they're thinking as the movie progresses, especially if they can sound REALLY self important. I really want to have to see something to go to a theatre anymore. I haven't gone to the movies all that much in my life but I've started to see a few more of late. I wait until the middle of the week to see a film and I go to the 10:00 PM showing. It helps that I live in Harrisburg instead of Seattle. I think the largest crowd I saw a film with recently was about 30 people. I think there was about 10 people in the theater when I saw The Dark Knight. Perfect. So I Netflix a lot of stuff until right before the Oscars and then I try to see as many things as I can that are up for nomination. I throw an Oscar party every year, so I like to be informed. And man, when they moved the show from March to February-that really messed with my system-so much stuff comes out on video right after they have the awards. I know more about classic film than contemporary film. Translation: I don't know a damn thing. Now what stupid person told you that? Everyone says so. Hmph! Also, I am sticking my tongue out at you. This "everyone" says, "no." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
butterscotchgreer Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 *1. No Country for Old Men* *2. Blood Simple* *3. Fargo* *4. Barton Fink* *5. Raising Arizona* *6. Miller's Crossing* *7. The Man Who Wasn't There* *8. O' Brother, Where Art Thou?* frankie, youre not gonna believe this, but i can vouch for that list....sort of. my parents love most of those movies so i was raised watching some of them. i actually want to go see Burn After Reading, coming out soon with the funny Fargo sherriff in it. Sarah wants to take me. oy! Raising Arizona is another funny 80s movie, and O' Brother Where Art Thou is a pretty good one....i cant say the same for No Country For Old Men. yucky. heehee! some people ust prefer bloodiness over romance....why? how should i know? theyre weird to me. heehee! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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