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CarrieLiz
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For a while now, I've been trying to help a friend identify a photo of an actress. We're both stumped. The only clue is the code in the lower right-hand corner of the photo, MM-17-K, and an RKO stamp on the back which dates the photo either 1946 or '48.

 

Assuming the "MM" stands for the name of the actress, how many had those initials? Marilyn Monroe, Marilyn Miller, Marilyn Maxwell, Mona Maris, Maria Montez... Any others?

 

Or is "MM" the code for a movie title? Any ideas?

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"MM" has nothing to do with who's depicted in the photo. Every studio had its own system of cataloguing the still photos taken during

productions. MGM's was probably the simplest: every film had a production number in a series that began when the studio was formed in

1924. For every "scene" shot there was a dash and another number indicating where in the total inventory of still taken the particlar shot

belonged (ex: 1711-84). Then there was the "X" series, which was used to inventory behind-the-scenes production shots (ex: 1711-x-12).

As such, it's usually quite easy to find out what's on an MGM still.

 

RKO's system was decidedly more complex, and it'd probably take a bit of research to figure out

what film your still photo is from.

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The photo could possibly be of Jacqueline White, from the RKO movie ?Mystery in Mexico?

from 1948. Does the ?MM? in your photo look like the ?MM? in this one?

 

http://cgi.ebay.com/Photo-JACQUELINE-WHITE-Mystery-in-Mexico-1947_W0QQitemZ350049477977QQihZ022QQcategoryZ18826QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1638Q2em118Q2el1247#ebayphotohosting

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Ok, here are some more clues:

 

Notice that the RKO movie title code for this film is ?GS?. This film is ?Good Sam?.

 

http://cgi.ebay.com/Photo-GARY-COOPER-Good-Sam-1947_W0QQitemZ350051132453QQihZ022QQcategoryZ18826QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting

 

Notice that the RKO movie title code on this next film is ?VT? for ?The Velvet Touch?:

 

http://stores.channeladvisor.com/jp-themint/Image.aspx?URL=http://www.mmgcollectibles.com/images/O/OH/OH797f.jpg

 

So I?m even more inclined now to think that your photo is a picture of Jacqueline White, from the

RKO movie ?Mystery in Mexico? from 1948.

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The photo could possibly be of Jacqueline White, from the RKO movie ?Mystery in Mexico?

from 1948. Does the ?MM? in your photo look like the ?MM? in this one?

 

This would have been solved much sooner had the link to photo been posted earlier so that I could take a good look at it. If you examine

the photo's serial number, it doesn't read "MM," it says MIM, so, yes, it's almost certainly MURDER IN MEXICO (either that, or the

price of the photo is $1999, expressed in Roman numerals).

 

Of course, the easiet thing to do is read the text in the link, where it says "Jacqueline White MURDER IN MEXICO."

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Actually, MIM does not exist in Roman numerals. To use the subtractive property, the numeral to the left of that from which it is subtracted must be one less power of ten than that numeral. Hence, we can have MCM, but not MIM.

 

1,999 would be MCMXCIX .. but then who really cares ...

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_CineSagejr_ -- The photo from Mystery in Mexico is not the one in question. _FredCDobbs_ posted it to ask if the code matched the one on my photo.

 

I appreciate your tutorial on studio cataloging techniques. I've been learning about that in snatches, and it's nice to have a whole lot of information at once.

 

_Fred_ -- Thank you so much for your help. I had looked into Mystery in Mexico as a possibility, but the code on my photo is definitely "MM" and not "M I M"

 

My friend gave me the go ahead to post the MM photo. I really should have posted it sooner. Sorry.

 

Here it is...

 

[img=http://www.cgerr.com/misc/mm.jpg]

(http://www.cgerr.com/misc/mm.jpg)

 

I resized it to cut down on loading time. Again, the code in the corner is MM-17-K.

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Thanks for posting the photo, CarrieLiz. She looks a little familiar, but nothing comes to mind. If no one on this thread can figure it out, try posting the photo in the *Trivia* thread. There are some sharp people there who can identify people.

 

Rich

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The scan of the back of the photo is fine, Carrie; the problem is that whoever stamped it decades ago didn't apply enough pressure on the stamp to get all the ink on the paper, though I suspect that examination under ultraviolet light might bring out a little more of the stamp's text.

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I checked "Stageroll" on e-bay. They had several RKO photos of stars, by Bachrach. One photo, of Michelle Morgan (it's not Carrie's mystery woman), has an MM at the bottom, followed by something too illegible to read. Here is the link:

http://cgi.ebay.ca/MICHELLE-MORGAN-PRO-MO-PICS-E-BACHARACH-CU-2_W0QQitemZ190194129577QQihZ009QQcategoryZ18824QQtcZphotoQQcmdZViewItem

 

So perhaps MM _are_ the woman's initials.

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_Rich_ -- I think you're *right*. Following your post, I found several photos of Madge Meredith on eBay; she certainly looks like the girl in my photo. The IMDb shows that Meredith was at RKO in 1946 for *Child of Divorce* and *The Falcon's Adventure*. And then there are the initials: MM.

 

Thank you all so much for your help. May I call on you again sometime?

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She plays a slave in The Ten Commandments, so if I ever get around to watching the 50th anniversary DVD, maybe I can spot her. Maybe her RKO films will show up on TCM.

 

Hey, aren't you curious how I figured this one out?

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