MissGoddess Posted December 16, 2008 Author Share Posted December 16, 2008 > {quote:title=rohanaka wrote:}{quote} > > April....should we accept this as an X-cuse or not??? > Well, if he makes it worth our while I don't see why not. And that's a big "IF"! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rohanaka Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 always behave myself. I'm a gentleman April...what do you think? The look on our beloved Tom's face says it all!! :-) Message was edited by: rohanaka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Film_Fatale Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 I just love the look in Tom's face... he's scary on the outside, but deep down inside, he's just such a sweetheart. :x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissGoddess Posted December 16, 2008 Author Share Posted December 16, 2008 > {quote:title=rohanaka wrote:}{quote} > > April...what do you think? The look on our beloved Tom's face says it all!! :-) > > Message was edited by: rohanaka YEP! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankGrimes Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 Yeah, I really hate it when the temps are in the single-digits. I'm not looking forward to that this winter. I like some snow, but not a lot of snow. Ahhhh, snow removal. Blech. So what is your very favorite scene in 3 Bad Men, Good Gal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
movieman1957 Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 Kathy, April, Michaela and "Frank" and all: In "3 Bad Men" Mr. Ford answers in 10 minutes the age old question - "Are men a sucker for a pretty face?" The answer is yes, most emphatically. These big, bad, long wanted by the law in three countries outlaws turn to pudding the first minute they inadvertently rescue a pretty girl. Good for them. No man is too far gone to have the goodness there brought out. Their friendship shows that there is some depth in their heart. Without they would never stay together except for their own greedy benefit. Clearly the relationship has been one of benefit to the whole and with it a bond that takes them all to a place where they are redeemed, so to speak, together. Rarely have I seen a more charming group of lead characters. George O'Brien is among the most genial and endearing actors I have found. He is most comfortable on camera and seems so natural. Too bad his popularity didn't last and that we don't see more of him. The whole cast turns in fine performances. A film that is half romantic comedy and half dramatic western works so well on so many levels. It is an exciting picture. It is BIG. Lots of stunts, action, cast members and scenic shots make this fun to watch. The humor is fun. At times a bit risque. Mainly around the scenes in the husband hunt. After thoroughly going over the one man as they would a horse they peg him as an effeminate type. The line "as long as a man's heart in the right place it doesn't matter what sex he is" rings true for him as he is recurring in scenes to show how weak he is. The humor continues when Bull is holding Dan's hand and asks if he is married. Then to tell the two that he has found his man. ' I liked the irony of fire. On one hand the church is burned down but also used to light the way for the rescuers and then as funeral lamps as Bull carries his sister down the stairs. The land rush scene seems to have been lifted by Howard for "Far and Away" as someone mentioned. Some of the stunts appeared to have been accidental and used for their authenticity. Great stunts all around. A massive undertaking that was well done. The final thing is that the men bound by their honor to each other fight over who stays where to fight off the approaching mob. They all seem to find in this attempt to save their girl they now find their redemption in an honorable death. They die for the greater cause. They know they weren't bad men after all. They just thought they were. P.S. I hated the score on the DVD. I would not condemn anyone's gift but I often thought it ill suited to a scene and not always a pleasant sound. She turned the land rush into a hoe-down. Moments of lovely music were far too few. Message was edited by: movieman1957 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rohanaka Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 Woo Hoo!! Chris...I was about to surrender to the warm glow of my little fake electric stove when I saw your post!! Nice perspective on this story. George O'Brien is among the most genial and endearing actors I have found. He is most comfortable on camera and seems so natural. Too bad his popularity didn't last and that we don't see more of him. I looked him up after I read your post...it appears he was in several Ford films, but I would have to do some digging to find out what sort of roles he played...he doesn't stand out in my mind at the moment, but I am sure some of you better educated folk can place him better than I can right now. I thought he did a great job w/ his character in this one...a bit "ornery" yet very much a stand up guy...he had to be to meet w/ Bull's approval. I liked the irony of fire. On one hand the church is burned down but also used to light the way for the rescuers and then as funeral lamps as Bull carries his sister down the stairs I hadn't thought of it in those terms, but I think you are right on target. They know they weren't bad men after all. They just thought they were Nicely said! (April...you could add that quote as a little subtitle at the bottom of your shirt!) :-) Great Ramble there Chris. Very well thought out. PS..I liked the music...I'd have to go back and listen again to the "land rush hoedown" but the main theme that was played off and on throughout I really liked a lot... but as I often tell the short person...different people like different things. :-) PSS....Grey Guy... So what is your very favorite scene in 3 Bad Men, Good Gal? All of them!! :-) Actually...if I had to choose a favorite, it would be the part at the beginning where they come riding out with the sun behind them...that still gets me everytime I think about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankGrimes Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 That was nicely written, Cowboy Chris. I wish I could write with such clarity and concision. I will comment further on what you wrote when I actually sit down and put "pen to paper." I really liked your fire observation. That was sharp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissGoddess Posted December 16, 2008 Author Share Posted December 16, 2008 Howdy, Chris! I Iove the "husband hunt" scenes! That's what every girl needs---three bad angels to go out and do all the dirty work for them. Who knew rustlers made such good matchmakers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
movieman1957 Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 Thank you Kathy. Now that you mentioned their arrival I remember you said it looked like they were sent. I more had the impression they had arrived. That may not seem like much of a distinction but it is a different impression for me. I do think the importance is they are introduced and you know who they are from afar. Of course the hats are the giveaway but it does create a mythic type of aura to them. That may be a clue they are not what they seem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
movieman1957 Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 Thanks. I look forward to comparing notes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
movieman1957 Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 April: Remember Bull was the one that found Dan. The other two were content to bring in Mr. Wimpy. Choose your matchmaker carefully dear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissGoddess Posted December 16, 2008 Author Share Posted December 16, 2008 > {quote:title=movieman1957 wrote:}{quote} > April: > > Remember Bull was the one that found Dan. The other two were content to bring in Mr. Wimpy. Choose your matchmaker carefully dear. Lol!! I forgot about that! Oh, but what happens if I fall in love with the "matchmaker"? I'm afraid that's what I'd have done in Lee's place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rohanaka Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 if I fall in love with the "matchmaker"? I'm afraid that's what I'd have done in Lee's place. Now THAT would have been a different movie altogether!!! :-) ' Night, all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
movieman1957 Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 April: If he's single and treats you like the lady you are, go for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankGrimes Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 If he's single and treats you like the lady you are, go for it. Lady? May I suggest a real gentleman for the "lady"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissGoddess Posted December 16, 2008 Author Share Posted December 16, 2008 Chris, it's mighty apparent there is only ONE gentleman posting on this thread at the moment and it's YOU. Thank you very kindly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Film_Fatale Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 > {quote:title=movieman1957 wrote:}{quote} > Kathy, April, Michaela and "Frank" and all: > > In "3 Bad Men" Mr. Ford answers in 10 minutes the age old question - "Are men a sucker for a pretty face?" The answer is yes, most emphatically. These big, bad, long wanted by the law in three countries outlaws turn to pudding the first minute they inadvertently rescue a pretty girl. Good for them. Well, it's true that many men will fall for a pretty face. In the best case scenario, that pretty face is also good at heart. Lee in *3 Bad Men* was definitely a good girl, but of course she had already set her eyes on the Irish lad, and "Bull" wasn't going to try to steal her from him. He probably respected her too much. > > No man is too far gone to have the goodness there brought out. That is also why Rick Blane's redemption is such a powerful moment in *Casablanca*, imho. > > A film that is half romantic comedy and half dramatic western works so well on so many levels. It is an exciting picture. It is BIG. Lots of stunts, action, cast members and scenic shots make this fun to watch. The humor is fun. At times a bit risque. Mainly around the scenes in the husband hunt. After thoroughly going over the one man as they would a horse they peg him as an effeminate type. The line "as long as a man's heart in the right place it doesn't matter what sex he is" rings true for him as he is recurring in scenes to show how weak he is. The humor continues when Bull is holding Dan's hand and asks if he is married. Then to tell the two that he has found his man. ' > The man they were examining didn't strike me as an "effeminate" guy. I'd just call him a "fancy lad"... > I liked the irony of fire. On one hand the church is burned down but also used to light the way for the rescuers and then as funeral lamps as Bull carries his sister down the stairs. Good point. I think P.T. Anderson might have lifted some of this for *There Will Be Blood*, but I would have to check it out again. > > The land rush scene seems to have been lifted by Howard for "Far and Away" as someone mentioned. Some of the stunts appeared to have been accidental and used for their authenticity. Great stunts all around. A massive undertaking that was well done. > As I mentioned earlier,I think Howard may have been inspired by both this and *Cimarron*. B-) > The final thing is that the men bound by their honor to each other fight over who stays where to fight off the approaching mob. They all seem to find in this attempt to save their girl they now find their redemption in an honorable death. They die for the greater cause. They know they weren't bad men after all. They just thought they were. > And in the end they were also more willing to stand for what was right than even the local sheriff, who was as crooked as they come. > P.S. I hated the score on the DVD. I would not condemn anyone's gift but I often thought it ill suited to a scene and not always a pleasant sound. She turned the land rush into a hoe-down. Moments of lovely music were far too few. > I'm not too good a judge of that. Maybe there are other versions of the movie that are in the public domain, with different scores? I wouldn't mind watching the movie again, but with a different score from the one in the "Ford at Fox" DVD collection. Did you watch *Hangman's House*, too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankGrimes Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 Chris, it's mighty apparent there is only ONE gentleman posting on this thread at the moment and it's YOU. Hear, hear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Film_Fatale Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 LOL Anyway, for those who might be interested, the Tuesday DVD column in the NYT focuses on the Criterion Collection's re-issue of some films on blu-ray disc: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/16/movies/homevideo/16dvds.html It looks like *The Third Man* blu-ray, like WHV's *Casablanca* blu-ray, will be one of the year's best home video releases. B-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
movieman1957 Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 >Did you watch Hangman's House, too? I saw it years ago but I'm holding on to the DVD to see it in the next day or two. Back to "3BM" for a minute I thought Bull looked at Lee more as a kid sister. He certainly respected her and maybe his background immediately put off any romantic notions. The one drawback, however slight, is the that apart from the wanted posters you have no sense of how bad they are. They do get called on it by the sheriff once and they make an attempt early to steal horses but mostly all you see is that they are big fuzzballs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Film_Fatale Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 > {quote:title=movieman1957 wrote:}{quote} > >Did you watch Hangman's House, too? > > I saw it years ago but I'm holding on to the DVD to see it in the next day or two. > Morning, Chris! I look forward to hearing your comments. And don't forget to look for John Wayne as an extra in the horse-racing scene (I posted a screencap in the Ford at Fox thread) > Back to "3BM" for a minute I thought Bull looked at Lee more as a kid sister. He certainly respected her and maybe his background immediately put off any romantic notions. > It's a very good point, Chris. It may have to do with the fact that "Bull" knows what happened to his own sister. > The one drawback, however slight, is the that apart from the wanted posters you have no sense of how bad they are. They do get called on it by the sheriff once and they make an attempt early to steal horses but mostly all you see is that they are big fuzzballs. That's also a good point. However if we'd seen them do something truly nasty, it might have been a bit harder to feel sympathy for them later in the movie. Whether or not this is something Ford took into consideration, I do not know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
movieman1957 Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 >That's also a good point. However if we'd seen them do something truly nasty, it might have been a bit harder to feel sympathy for them later in the movie. Whether or not this is something Ford took into consideration, I do not know. I only mention that because at least in '3 Godfathers" the trio robs a bank and we witness a bit of the chase so one bad deed is given as background. Also, it might have had a different feel if the sheriff wasn't so nasty. But you make a good point as we like them right off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Film_Fatale Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 > {quote:title=movieman1957 wrote:}{quote} > I only mention that because at least in '3 Godfathers" the trio robs a bank and we witness a bit of the chase so one bad deed is given as background. Also, it might have had a different feel if the sheriff wasn't so nasty. But you make a good point as we like them right off. I agree with you completely, Chris. In the back of my mind, I guess I also was expecting them to do something really cruel or violent at some point in the movie so that they could live up to the build-up via the montage of wanted posters. I'd like to take the opportunity to thank you, and also Scott, April and Kathy, for encouraging everyone in these threads to keep catching up with Ford. Later this week, I plan to watch *The Iron Horse* and *The Informer*. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissGoddess Posted December 16, 2008 Author Share Posted December 16, 2008 > {quote:title=FrankGrimes wrote:}{quote} > Chris, it's mighty apparent there is only ONE gentleman posting on this thread at > the moment and it's YOU. > > Hear, hear. I don't hear, hear anything from your bunkhouse, Dude. Was the effort of keeping a promise to post about *3 Bad Men* too much for you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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