rohanaka Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 Howdy there April.... Boy, you watch a Frankie Sinatra movie AND a film noir within a week---I'd say we definitely owe you a ramble, soon, on DONOVAN'S REEF. Well I'd like to act all "put upon" and martyr-ish but I can't..ha. They both were very enjoyable... so I can't really get any milage out of whining on them...ha. But I DO hope we can con that Shiftless guy into watching D's Reef SOMEHOW and get a ramble sometime... (ha... don't tell him I used the word "CON") ha. We want him to think he OWES us.ha can remember when I first saw the movie I had exactly the same confused reaction Ok good... now I don't feel so all alone...ha. I am curious what his relationship with his father was like. I am imagining a "strong" possibly domineering father who maybe sees his antics as a bit of a family embarrasment.... or maybe not... I could be wrong on that one.. I think it puts everything into focus from his point of view and we see a love story played out from a man's perspective. I like how you brought that out. I agree. And it is an interesting change to see the "guy's" point of view so compeletly. Sometimes you do get a glimpse.... but really in this one, he is the only one out of the three that doesn't leave you guessing. It really is his voice throughout the whole story. I have to admit the last scene reminded me of Leo McCarey's "Love Affair", ha! I wonder if Daves was tipping his hat to the director? Now I had not put that together... but you could be right... and it is funny because Sinatra is both the returning love interest... and the wounded love interest.. all at the same time...ha. Oh wait... I am thinking of An Affair to Remember...ha.DUH. (is Love Affair the original to that?) ha. I may have to "cheat" and read the last chapter tonight to see. I can't wait. You sound like me... I am VERY bad about doing that sometimes. I just can't stand the suspense. Inquiring minds wanna know! Ha. Thanks so much, again, for giving it a try, I know this cup of tea is not your "brew" Well thank you for recommending it.. and it is GOOD to expand my horizons once in a while. I have a tendency to "collect dust" sometimes by getting too set in my ways... ha. but you are such a good sport and no ramble is complete without you Oh now.. don't make me cry..ha. I have been TOO whooshy eyed lately as it is for other reasons... And PS: No "sport" about it.. I enjoyed myself a lot... and PSS.... YOU are the one that keeps us all rambling along, little missy. :-) oh, and Kathy---I hate to say this, but one of the defining characteristics of a "film noir" is the use of....a narrator! Woops! YIKES.... what HAVE I gotten myself into????????????????????? Ha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rohanaka Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 HA!! Wendy.. we must have been typing away at the same time... .and YES.. I did watch Ride The Pink Horse this past weekend... and loved it. (Look in the Robert Montgomery thread) wanted to ask you if you've ever seen Brief Encounter..... sob... but I daren't mention another first person narrated movie at this time.... Ha... now I have to go look that up... you have my curiosity going... am so glad that you mentioned Love Affair because I have been trying to figure out what the end reminded me of, all week. However, I think that is why the ending didn't quite set right with me. I have never really liked An Affair to Remember (I like the stars), though I can tolerate Love Affair a little better. Ok... so they are related... Now I don't feel like such a "doofus" for thinking the two movies were the same. Ha. I have only seen AATR (and that was a VERY long time ago.... not a "BIG fave of mine as I recall) And RE: Brit's dad... you could be right.. it is fun to be able to imagine all these extra details... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissGoddess Posted September 10, 2009 Author Share Posted September 10, 2009 You two posted at the same time! > > I am so glad that you mentioned Love Affair because I have been trying to figure out what the end reminded me of, all week. However, I think that is why the ending didn't quite set right with me. I have never really liked An Affair to Remember (I like the stars), though I can tolerate Love Affair a little better. > I like them both, I used to LOVE An Affair to Remember, now not so much. There are other love stories I much prefer. Ironically, the ONE scene in both versions that I really don't care for is....the one with the kids that this movie reminds me of! Lol! > I think Britt's dad was a straight arrow army guy, this seems logical to me. Britt is always trying to look like a chip off of the old block, as good as his old man, but the reality is when his dad isn't there he can relax into the lazy man that he really is. He just wants to get by with as little as he can to make that impression. I think maybe in Britt's father's group, there is a little talk of how Britt has not lived up to the family traditions, and the older men see him more for what he is, because the truth is, Britt doesn't care about those old men unless they can get him something.... then he turns on the charm and the heroism. If he doesn't care about you, he doesn't bother to con you. Just my take. I think you are RIGHT. Especially that last part, oh, gosh, he sounds like a Manhattanite... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFavell Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 >HA!! Wendy.. we must have been typing away at the same time... .and YES.. I did watch Ride The Pink Horse this past weekend... and loved it. (Look in the Robert Montgomery thread) Oh can you believe it..... another thread that somehow slipped off of my watched threads list... I have been missing everything! >Ok... so they are related... Now I don't feel like such a "doofus" for thinking the two movies were the same. Ha. I have only seen AATR (and that was a VERY long time ago.... not a "BIG fave of mine as I recall) You are no doofus....I am the doofus. I feel bad when I say I don't like AATR, thinking someone is going to come up behind me and hit me in the head with a brick.... it was so popular a few years ago with it's inclusion in Sleepless in Seattle (I think that's the one) I couldn't say anything. And all these people were coming up to me because they knew I liked old movies, saying how much they liked it and I would just cringe. I do like the settings, and Cary Grant... but the movie makes me feel a little sick, especially the singing parts. ewwww. Sorry folks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissGoddess Posted September 10, 2009 Author Share Posted September 10, 2009 > {quote:title=rohanaka wrote:}{quote} > Howdy there April.... > Howdy there, Miss Kathy, > > Well I'd like to act all "put upon" and martyr-ish but I can't..ha. They both were very enjoyable... so I can't really get any milage out of whining on them...ha. But I DO hope we can con that Shiftless guy into watching D's Reef SOMEHOW and get a ramble sometime... (ha... don't tell him I used the word "CON") ha. We want him to think he OWES us.ha > Can one con a "con"? > > I am imagining a "strong" possibly domineering father who maybe sees his antics as a bit of a family embarrasment.... or maybe not... I could be wrong on that one.. > In the book he's also a SOUTHERNER. Obviously they had to accomodate Curtis' New Yawk accent. > > I may have to "cheat" and read the last chapter tonight to see. I can't > wait. > > You sound like me... I am VERY bad about doing that sometimes. I just can't stand the suspense. Inquiring minds wanna know! Ha. > Ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo woooooooooooooooaaaaaa is meeeeeeee!! I peeked and got my JUST DESSERTS for it. I cannot BELIEVE what a rotten SPOILER I encountered. Let me simply say the ending STINKS as far as my romantic, happy ending ideals are concerned. It's FRANK GRIMES sort of ending!!! Oh, dear, oh, dear. I don't know if I can continue reading it now that I know how it's going to turn out. > > Oh now.. don't make me cry..ha. I have been TOO whooshy eyed lately as it is for other reasons... > Well I hope your real life tears dry VERY soon, VERY soon indeed. > > oh, and Kathy---I hate to say this, but one of the defining characteristics of a "film noir" is the use of....a narrator! Woops! > > YIKES.... what HAVE I gotten myself into????????????????????? Ha. You may want to check out Brief Encounter, it could be the, ah, key, to changing your opinion about narrators. And I bet you can find that one easily at your library. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFavell Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 If you are whooshy eyed already, I don't know whether you should watch Brief Encounter or not... it is a five hanky movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
movieman1957 Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 Two minutes after seeing Curtis his role reminded me of the character in "Operation Petticoat" only not quite the charm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissGoddess Posted September 11, 2009 Author Share Posted September 11, 2009 > {quote:title=movieman1957 wrote:}{quote} > Two minutes after seeing Curtis his role reminded me of the character in "Operation Petticoat" only not quite the charm. I did, too! There is a lot of the "heel" in many of Curtis' characters. I watched a 1960s comedy that TCM aired not too long ago, in which he portrays a rather naive scientific type and Dean Martin is the worldly swinger who "corrupts" him to cheat on his wife (Janet Leigh). It was not exactly the most believable performance by Curtis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rohanaka Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 You are no doofus OH yes I am. I am the doofus. OH no you're not.. ha. I can be the doofus if I WANT to... HA. (I am just feeling like a little "rumble with my ramble tonight..ha) feel bad when I say I don't like AATR, thinking someone is going to come up behind me and hit me in the head with a brick.... HA. I tell you what... I will stand behind you and they can hit ME instead.. because it really is only on my so-so list (sorry April) ha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissGoddess Posted September 11, 2009 Author Share Posted September 11, 2009 > > feel bad when I say I don't like AATR, thinking someone is going to come up behind me and hit me in the head with a brick.... > > HA. I tell you what... I will stand behind you and they can hit ME instead.. because it really is only on my so-so list (sorry April) ha. If there's going to be any brick throwing around here, the Code of Conduct explicity states they may only be thrown at FrankGrimes. Who has never seen either movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
movieman1957 Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 >You are no doofus OH yes I am. > I am the doofus. OH no you're not.. ha. I can be the doofus if I WANT to... HA. But I Am The Walrus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFavell Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 >You are no doofus OH yes I am. >I am the doofus. OH no you're not.. ha. I can be the doofus if I WANT to... HA. Oh my gosh, This is what I listen to ALL day long....4th grade... it's AWFUL. "Oh no you dih-n't......" (head swagger) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rohanaka Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 I peeked and got my JUST DESSERTS for it.I cannot BELIEVE what a rotten SPOILER I encountered. Let me simply say the ending STINKS as far as my romantic, happy ending ideals are concerned. It's FRANK GRIMES sort of ending!!! Oh, dear, oh, dear. I don't know if I can continue reading it now that I know how it's going to turn out NOOOOOOOOOOOO! I refuse to hear it!! ha. Picture me with my eyes shut and my fingers in my ears saying Lalalalalalalalalallalalalallalallalalallala!! ha. Can one con a "con"? Well... we have to weigh the pros and CON's... and be very CONniving and CONvincing and CONstuctively sneaky... but I BET we can do it.... ha. Well I hope your real life tears dry VERY soon, VERY soon indeed Thank you my dear friend. Most of them are of my own making... and I just need to get a little attitude check. (and then of course... there is that whole "my baby's growing up and I am no longer needed as her mommy" stuff too.. OH MY GOLLY is she ever independent lately.. ha. You may want to check out Brief Encounter, it could be the, ah, key, to changing your opinion about narrators. And I bet you can find that one easily at your library. It is on youtube... I just found it. And I have seen PARTS of it... because it does look familiar. But I don't want to watch it if they do more than drink coffee... ha. I don't like movies where you are supposed to feel sorry for people for being faithful to their spouse... so I will have to see.. (besides... after what Wendy said... I may need to go to the store first anyway and buy more tissues I don't know if I have enough in stock.. ha.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFavell Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 How is the quality on youtube? You have got to watch a beautiful good quality version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rohanaka Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 Wendy: 4th grade... it's AWFUL OH no... and here I was thinking FIRST grade was the end of the world.... April: I am TOO afraid to throw any bricks at the Grey Dude... he MIGHT just throw them back.. ha. Chris.. so YOU are the Walrus... well... coo coo Kachoo.... Ha. PS Wendy... the quality looked ok from the little bit I watched... looks like it has Japanese(maybe) subtitles down at the bottom.. but it at least the first bit I saw everyone was speaking English. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFavell Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 > {quote:title=movieman1957 wrote:}{quote} > But I Am The Walrus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
movieman1957 Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 and no time to duck. Darn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFavell Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 You will like Brief Encounter, I think. Don't worry about whether they do anything.....the people involved are all good people... that's the thing..... You really should rent it or find the best quality picture you can because it is a gorgeous, gorgeous black and white movie, one of the most beautiful.... and make SURE you have an entire box of kleenex. First grade IS the end of the world.... 4th grade is a piece of cake, except that they get really snotty with each other.... It's just the back and forth conversation that bothers me. They are SO obnoxious and rude to each other, but it actually means nothing to THEM. None of them take it seriously. They all do it... it must be a phase..... I can tell them not to talk like that at home, but you know that at school they are all doing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissGoddess Posted September 11, 2009 Author Share Posted September 11, 2009 > > NOOOOOOOOOOOO! I refuse to hear it!! ha. Picture me with my eyes shut and my fingers in my ears saying Lalalalalalalalalallalalalallalallalalallala!! ha. > I won't give it away, it's too heartbreaking. > > Well... we have to weigh the pros and CON's... and be very CONniving and CONvincing and CONstuctively sneaky... but I BET we can do it.... ha. > CONsider me CONvinced. > > Thank you my dear friend. Most of them are of my own making... and I just need to get a little attitude check. (and then of course... there is that whole "my baby's growing up and I am no longer needed as her mommy" stuff too.. OH MY GOLLY is she ever independent lately.. ha. > ooops! Growing Pains on the track! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFavell Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 Remember: those bricks mean "I love you." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rohanaka Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 You really should rent it or find the best quality picture you can because it is a gorgeous, gorgeous black and white movie Ok ... you convinced me... And guess what I just found out... it is showing on TCM later this month so maybe I can catch it THEN and I won't have to look past the Japanese subtitles.. ha. They all do it... it must be a phase..... Sigh................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rohanaka Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 it's too heartbreaking He croaks.. I know it... he croaks, doesn't he?????????????????????????? WAAAAHHHH. (ha) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
movieman1957 Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 >Remember: those bricks mean "I love you." Then I shall take my hit with gladness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissGoddess Posted September 11, 2009 Author Share Posted September 11, 2009 > {quote:title=rohanaka wrote:}{quote} > it's too heartbreaking > > He croaks.. I know it... he croaks, doesn't he?????????????????????????? WAAAAHHHH. (ha) Noooooo....close....very close, but it's not that exactly..... I couldn't believe it when I read it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFavell Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 > {quote:title=MissGoddess wrote:}{quote} > > {quote:title=rohanaka wrote:}{quote} > > it's too heartbreaking > > > > He croaks.. I know it... he croaks, doesn't he?????????????????????????? WAAAAHHHH. (ha) > > Noooooo....close....very close, but it's not that exactly..... > > I couldn't believe it when I read it. Does she ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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