Film_Fatale Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 Yes, but you're quite good at leg-pulling! Frank? Why, surely, you must be joking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molo14 Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 Hi everyone, I posted a few hours ago and when I come back this thread has added six pages! I'll try to catch up on the cheap. Hi MissGoddess, Yes, I am a history buff. I have always loved it. One day I will tell you about growing up in the Richmond area. It's like living in a museum only it's much more real than that. As the population explodes in this area it is all quickly disappearing but I remember it. I have been a long time fan of *Three Loves Has Nancy* and used to work it into threads to see if anyone else liked it but I never got any bites. You described it perfectly. It's great fluff and Montgomery, Gaynor and Tone make it top caliber fluff. It's very good for cheering your mood. Now see if you can picture this. I once suggested in the Gloria thread that DoubleG should have starred in a remake with Joel McCrea and Jack Carson. It's not as strange as you think. Gloria Grahame's comedic abilities went largely untapped since she was so great in noir. If you see *A Women's Secret*, *Merton of the Movies* or even TBATB or her Violet in IAWL, I think she would have been great as a screwball character in a film like this. Whoever posted the pick of Barbara Stanwyck, I just got back from watching *Baby Face* with a couple of friends who wanted to check it out. I still really like Barbara in this. This was the restored version and it's a lot of fun. I There are some beautiful lingering shots of Stanwyck. The end still bothers me. I don't know what the consensus on George Brent is in these parts so I will choose my words carefully. *Spoilers!!!* I just couldn't believe Stanwyck would give up everything for this human tranquilizer. Well I guess I wasn't too careful with my words there. Sorry! They both really liked it and they were amazed when John Wayne showed up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Film_Fatale Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 I just got back from watching Baby Face with a couple of friends who wanted to check it out. I still really like Barbara in this. This was the restored version and it's a lot of fun. I There are some beautiful lingering shots of Stanwyck. The end still bothers me. I don't know what the consensus on George Brent is in these parts so I will choose my words carefully. Spoilers!!! I just couldn't believe Stanwyck would give up everything for this human tranquilizer. Well I guess I wasn't too careful with my words there. Sorry! They both really liked it and they were amazed when John Wayne showed up. I have to be honest here: the first time I watched the restored *Baby Face* on TCM, I was so shocked at just how tawdry the movie originally had been, that by the end of the movie I really didn't much care how it ended, I was just dying to rewind to certain parts of the movie, just to make sure my ears hadn't deceived me, and that her character really had said/suggested the things she apparently did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankGrimes Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 Yes, but you're quite good at leg-pulling! I wouldn't dare! I'm a gentleman, remember? Sweet Billy Priest. He looks just like "Puck" with those ears. Who's "Puck"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Film_Fatale Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 I wouldn't dare! I'm a gentleman, remember? Real gentlemen know how to treat ladies. Including Texas gals. Who's "Puck"? There are more things in Heaven and Earth than are dreamt of in your philosophy, Frankie dahlink B-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molo14 Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 Hi Frank, *Frank wrote:La B?te Humaine was remade my Fritz Lang as Human Desire. Gloria Grahame played the role Simone Simon plays in Jean Renoir's version. Renoir is a director I'm most interested in. I'm not sure what kind of roles Simone has in the two Max Oph?ls films. Maybe ChiO (or someone else) can clue us in.* I had completely forgotten about that! I haven't watched any of his films in quite awhile. I've seen *Grand Illusion*, *The Rules of the Game* and *Woman on the Beach* but it's been a long time. I'm ashamed to say those are the only films of his I've seen so far. I liked all of them, not knowing French it was hard to keep up with the subtitles in *The Rules of the Game* because of all the quick dialog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissGoddess Posted November 23, 2008 Author Share Posted November 23, 2008 > {quote:title=molo14 wrote:}{quote} > Hi everyone, > > I posted a few hours ago and when I come back this thread has added six pages! I'll try to catch up on the cheap. > You didn't miss much, Molo! Most of the pages were wasted on trying to compell certain people to keep their promises. > Hi MissGoddess, > > Yes, I am a history buff. I have always loved it. One day I will tell you about growing up in the Richmond area. It's like living in a museum only it's much more real than that. As the population explodes in this area it is all quickly disappearing but I remember it. > Is Richmond anything like Charleston? Not that I've ever been to Charleston, but I've heard wonderful things about it. > I have been a long time fan of *Three Loves Has Nancy* and used to work it into threads to see if anyone else liked it but I never got any bites. You described it perfectly. It's great fluff and Montgomery, Gaynor and Tone make it top caliber fluff. It's very good for cheering your mood. Now see if you can picture this. I once suggested in the Gloria thread that DoubleG should have starred in a remake with Joel McCrea and Jack Carson. It's not as strange as you think. Gloria Grahame's comedic abilities went largely untapped since she was so great in noir. If you see *A Women's Secret*, *Merton of the Movies* or even TBATB or her Violet in IAWL, I think she would have been great as a screwball character in a film like this. > I never would have thought of Gloria in a character like that, but it might have been cute! And she and Joel would be great together. > Whoever posted the pick of Barbara Stanwyck, > Me! > I just got back from watching *Baby Face* with a couple of friends who wanted to check it out. I still really like Barbara in this. This was the restored version and it's a lot of fun. I There are some beautiful lingering shots of Stanwyck. The end still bothers me. I don't know what the consensus on George Brent is in these parts so I will choose my words carefully. *Spoilers!!!* I just couldn't believe Stanwyck would give up everything for this human tranquilizer. Well I guess I wasn't too careful with my words there. Sorry! They both really liked it and they were amazed when John Wayne showed up. Duke is the one with the real "baby face" in that movie. I love my Georgie-Porgie, don't you be runnin' him down! I'm kidding---not about George, though. They say still waters run deep, Molo, so don't sell him short. Of course, a shallow puddle can be still, too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Film_Fatale Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 I'm ashamed to say those are the only films of his I've seen so far. I liked all of them, not knowing French it was hard to keep up with the subtitles in The Rules of the Game because of all the quick dialog. Was this on the Criterion DVD or on a theatrical release print? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Film_Fatale Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 Duke is the one with the real "baby face" in that movie. Can't argue with that. You'd have to go back to *The Big Trail* to find a more baby-faced Duke. B-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molo14 Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 Hi Film Fatale, I'm afraid the only chance I'll get to see *Sunrise* on the big screen is if I sneak into one of the vacant film classrooms at the University and play my DVD on their projection equipment. It's something I've considered doing with any number of films. Yes, Stanwyck was really on a mission in *Baby Face.* She's very entertaining but she is also very serious. She escapes her past by reworking it in her favor. Sex is power, she could exploit that power by using it against weak men. Despite the necessary ending for the censors. The film is really very dark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Film_Fatale Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 Yes, Stanwyck was really on a mission in Baby Face. She's very entertaining but she is also very serious. She escapes her past by reworking it in her favor. Sex is power, she could exploit that power by using it against weak men. Despite the necessary ending for the censors. The film is really very dark. Yes, it's pitch-black dark, and has helped me realize how naive I was in thinking all 30's movies were about "escapism" of some sort. That movie, while it has plenty of style, is about as gritty as they come. I'm afraid the only chance I'll get to see Sunrise on the big screen is if I sneak into one of the vacant film classrooms at the University and play my DVD on their projection equipment. It's something I've considered doing with any number of films. There are no revival houses anywhere near your area? If that is the case, sorry to hear it. I guess even in major cities, finding places that will play silent movies with a live orchestra must be pretty rare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankGrimes Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 What's up, Molo -- I can see Gloria Grahame playing well in screwball comedies. She can play sassy well. I had completely forgotten about that! I haven't watched any of his films in quite awhile. I've seen Grand Illusion, The Rules of the Game and Woman on the Beach but it's been a long time. I'm ashamed to say those are the only films of his I've seen so far. I liked all of them, not knowing French it was hard to keep up with the subtitles in The Rules of the Game because of all the quick dialog. I have only seen The Woman on the Beach, and I really like that film. It's rather mystical. I have very high expectations with Renoir because his highly-acclaimed films sound like my speed. I just got back from watching Baby Face with a couple of friends who wanted to check it out. I still really like Barbara in this. This was the restored version and it's a lot of fun. I There are some beautiful lingering shots of Stanwyck. The end still bothers me. I don't know what the consensus on George Brent is in these parts so I will choose my words carefully. Spoilers!!! I just couldn't believe Stanwyck would give up everything for this human tranquilizer. Well I guess I wasn't too careful with my words there. Sorry! I've always been of the belief that people fall in love for their reasons and sometimes those reasons won't make any sense to us because they may not be our reasons. I can see why an electric woman like "Lily" could use a tranquilizer like "Courtland." Sometimes, it takes a "Courtland" to make a "Lily" appreciate life and love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Film_Fatale Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 I've always been of the belief that people fall in love for their reasons and sometimes those reasons won't make any sense to us because they may not be our reasons. I can see why an electric woman like "Lily" could use a tranquilizer like "Courtland." Sometimes, it takes a "Courtland" to make a "Lily" appreciate life and love. Very interesting theory. You must have met some electric women in your time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molo14 Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 *Most of the pages were wasted on trying to compell certain people to keep their promises.* We're all still waiting in the Gloria thread for his thoughts on *In A Lonely Place* and how he's going to put Laurel more in the "hot seat." Imagine leaving us for months with a teaser like that!!! *Is Richmond anything like Charleston? Not that I've ever been to Charleston, but I've heard* *wonderful things about it.* It's probably more grittier than Charleston. Richmond does have a lot of intact Victorian neighborhoods. They still look like pretty much like this: It has some modern touches though. I used to live around the corner from here: It's the country outside the city where I now live and where I grew up that is more fascinating to me from an historical perspective. I'll go into it more later. *I'm kidding---not about George,* *though.* I love the double edge of that statement. I knew I was stepping into it with that statement. I did like him in some of the Kay Francis movies. I commented on that in either the thread on her month here or at SSO. I'll back away quietly now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankGrimes Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 We're all still waiting in the Gloria thread for his thoughts on In A Lonely Place and how he's going to put Laurel more in the "hot seat." Imagine leaving us for months with a teaser like that!!! Hey! You remembered my words. I appreciate that. It's true, "Laurel" is in trouble with me. "Will Kane" is also in SERIOUS trouble with me. What man forces his bride to sit all by herself in a hotel lobby on their honeymoon? That's all backwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Film_Fatale Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 We're all still waiting in the Gloria thread for his thoughts on In A Lonely Place and how he's going to put Laurel more in the "hot seat." Imagine leaving us for months with a teaser like that!!! That does sound strangely familiar... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Film_Fatale Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 Hey! You remembered my words. I appreciate that. It's true, "Laurel" is in trouble with me. "Will Kane" is also in SERIOUS trouble with me. What man forces his bride to sit in a hotel on their honeymoon? That's all backwards. Indeed! :| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molo14 Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 *Film Fatale wrote There are no revival houses anywhere near your area? If that is the case, sorry to hear it. I guess even in major cities, finding places that will play silent movies with a live orchestra must be pretty rare.* No we don't. The thing is Richmond still has a lot of surviving movies palaces from the twenties. On rare occasions they will show a silent film at one of these but it's very rare. There used to be a fall classics series at the Byrd Theater in Richmond, It was built in 1928. They would show a number of classic films for a whole month. I would go to these and it was always a full house. That's all gone. Maybe renting the films became too expensive. It's strictly a second run theater now, (see below) with maybe a rare once a year showing of an older film. Byrd Theater This old theater was just restored. It's now called the National theater. I think it's going to be for plays but they might show an old film once in a while I hope: Colonial Theater This is the old MGM Loews theater. It's now called the Carpenter Center and is the centerpiece of a new performing arts complex downtown: Loews Theater Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Film_Fatale Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 Wow... some of those movie palaces are pretty impressive-looking. It's a shame that they can no longer afford to play classic movies, or at least mix it up a little with new and old movies. At least those places haven't been torn down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molo14 Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 *Film Fatale wrote: Was this on the Criterion DVD or on a theatrical release print?* I actually watched it on television. I think it was TCM but it might have been the old AMC. I still have it on vhs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Film_Fatale Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 I actually watched it on television. I think it was TCM but it might have been the old AMC. I still have it on vhs. Ah, I see. It's possible the subtitles on the new Criterion DVD might be easier to read. Criterion generally uses brand-new subtitles on all their releases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molo14 Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 Hey there Frank. *I've always been of the belief that people fall in love for their reasons and sometimes those reasons won't make any sense to us because they may not be our reasons. I can see why an electric woman like "Lily" could use a tranquilizer like "Courtland." Sometimes, it takes a "Courtland" to make a "Lily" appreciate life and love.* Well you do have a point. There are a few moments when they meet again in Paris. That show that "Lily" is getting a different vibe from "Courtland" and is testing him out. It's like she knows he's coming at her from a different angle. She does however seem very sincere and sure when he comes to her for help and she refuses. I think I would have ended it with a shot of Lily on deck staring out at the sea a la Garbo in *Queen Christina.* She might have had a hint of regret or remorse in her face but you couldn't be sure. I do appreciate that people fall in love for reasons that might not be apparent to an outsider. I can also see that Lily may realize that she's on a hard road with no exit in sight and she might just want to fall in love and try to feel human again. As long as she can take Chico with her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molo14 Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 *Frank wrote: Hey! You remembered my words. I appreciate that. It's true, "Laurel" is in trouble with* *me.* I think about it everyday Frank. Where is he going with this idea? When will he tell us? I never forget. (Well sometimes I forget where I parked my car but that's another story.) *"Will Kane" is also in SERIOUS trouble with me. What man forces his bride to sit all by herself in a hotel lobby on their honeymoon? That's all backwards.* Would I be kicked off this thread if I said I've never seen *High Noon?* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Film_Fatale Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 Would I be kicked off this thread if I said I've never seen High Noon? Kicked off? I seriously doubt it. But some people might look at you kinda funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molo14 Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 Hi Rohanaka, I would love to hear what you think of *The Devil and Daniel Webster.* It was really fantastic, a very unique film. I watched the Criterion DVD and, as I have trouble with my hearing anyway, I would also like to know what you thought of the sound. This was the most frustrating thing for me. It was wonderfully scored but the sound was very uneven. I could barely hear what some of the characters were saying (like Anne Shirley in the early scenes) even with the volume turned all the way up. When something dramatic happened the music and sound effects were deafening and I had to quickly turn the sound way down. It was a roller coaster ride with the remote for much of the film. The soundtrack was very uneven and that was a major disappointment for me. My ears were literally hurting by the end of the film. I don't have any great sound system but I have never had a problem to this extent with any other film. I'm curious if anyone else had a problem with the sound on this DVD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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