FrankGrimes Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 Hey there Frank. It's nice to be crossing paths again. I've always been of the belief that people fall in love for their reasons and sometimes those reasons won't make any sense to us because they may not be our reasons. I can see why an electric woman like "Lily" could use a tranquilizer like "Courtland." Sometimes, it takes a "Courtland" to make a "Lily" appreciate life and love. Well you do have a point. There are a few moments when they meet again in Paris. That show that "Lily" is getting a different vibe from "Courtland" and is testing him out. It's like she knows he's coming at her from a different angle. She does however seem very sincere and sure when he comes to her for help and she refuses. I think I would have ended it with a shot of Lily on deck staring out at the sea a la Garbo in Queen Christina. She might have had a hint of regret or remorse in her face but you couldn't be sure. So you prefer a more open-ended finale. Those work for me, but I do like the ending to Baby Face. I do appreciate that people fall in love for reasons that might not be apparent to an outsider. I can also see that Lily may realize that she's on a hard road with no exit in sight and she might just want to fall in love and try to feel human again. There are times when people don't realize they really are in love until they lose that person or come close to losing them. The loss or potential loss wakes them up. I believe the ending to Baby Face would be even more powerful if... SPOILER ALERT... "Courtland" died. But I usually think this. As long as she can take Chico with her. Of course! I think about it everyday Frank. Where is he going with this idea? When will he tell us? I never forget. (Well sometimes I forget where I parked my car but that's another story.) My idea is parked next to your car. I also want to talk to you about Sudden Fear. Would I be kicked off this thread if I said I've never seen High Noon? Now that's a stunner to me. Is this because you don't care for westerns? I'm pretty sure you'd like High Noon. There's much more to the film than what many have discussed. As for getting kicked off this thread, I believe your neck is safe. The key is to know that Pappy is crappy, Coopy is poopy, and Dukey is pukey. That will get you in good around here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molo14 Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 *Molo wrote: Would I be kicked off this thread if I said I've never seen High Noon?* *Film Fatale wrote: Kicked off? I seriously doubt it. But some people might look at you kinda funny.* Well I'm used to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molo14 Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 Hi again Frank, *Frank wrote: There are times when people don't realize they really are in love until they lose that person or come close to losing them. The loss or potential loss wakes them up. I believe the ending to Baby Face would be even more powerful if... SPOILER ALERT... "Courtland" died. But I usually think this.* That's a good idea too. Then we could of had a closing shot with her walking away in regret. Wondering what she will do next. How will she handle losing the man she finally had come to trust and love. I like it. *Frank wrote: My idea is parked next to your car.* That's *very* funny Frank. It looks like I'll be forced to review *The Greatest Show on Earth* soon. *Molo wrote: Would I be kicked off this thread if I said I've never seen High Noon?* *Frank wrote: Now that's a stunner to me. Is this because you don't care for westerns? I'm pretty sure you'd like High Noon. There's much more to the film than what many have discussed.* Well I do have that Hawksian viewpoint. Actually I like Westerns very much. *Rio Bravo*, *Bend of the River*, *Winchester 73*, *Stagecoach*, *Red River*, *Fort Apache*, *The Man Who Shot Liberty Valence* and *The Searchers* are all favorites of mine and I left out others. One problem with *High Noon* is I know the whole story. I will watch it though. MissGoddess is aware of my vast collection of unwatched great films. *High Noon* is one of them. I really need to give this film a chance. It doesn't take much of a push from you guys to get me to quickly watch a film I've been neglecting. *Frank wrote: As for getting kicked off this thread, I believe your neck is safe. The key is to know* *that Pappy is crappy, Coopy is poopy, and Dukey is pukey. That will get you in good around* *here.* Thanks Frank, I knew I could trust you to show me the ropes around here. Now I'll follow your advise and maybe one day I can be as popular as you around here. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fxreyman Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 Here is a great double feature idea... High Noon paired with Rio Bravo. Will Kane going around trying to get the towns people to try and help him and John T. Chance not asking anyone for their help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Film_Fatale Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 There are times when people don't realize they really are in love until they lose that person or come close to losing them. The loss or potential loss wakes them up. I believe the ending to Baby Face would be even more powerful if... SPOILER ALERT... "Courtland" died. But I usually think this. Maybe it's a good thing you aren't a script doctor. As for getting kicked off this thread, I believe your neck is safe. The key is to know that Pappy is crappy, Coopy is poopy, and Dukey is pukey. That will get you in good around here. And you ask why you're in trouble with "snippy law". :0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Film_Fatale Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 Well I'm used to that. Come to think of it, so am I. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankGrimes Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 That's a good idea too. Then we could of had a closing shot with her walking away in regret. Wondering what she will do next. How will she handle losing the man she finally had come to trust and love. I like it. Now that definitely works for me. It looks like I'll be forced to review The Greatest Show on Earth soon. I'm sure it comes as no surprise that I haven't watched that one yet. I'm actually curious about the film because of Double G and because so many people dog on it as one of the worst films to win Best Picture. Well I do have that Hawksian viewpoint. Ohhh, I see... Actually I like Westerns very much. Rio Bravo, Bend of the River, Winchester 73, Stagecoach, Red River, Fort Apache, The Man Who Shot Liberty Valence and The Searchers are all favorites of mine and I left out others. Those are the biggies. I've seen all but one. One problem with High Noon is I know the whole story. I will watch it though. I believe there's more to the film than what has been discussed. Many focus on the "friends" part, but I feel it's also a film about marriage, just as Hitchcock's The Birds is a film about courtship. MissGoddess is aware of my vast collection of unwatched great films. High Noon is one of them. I really need to give this film a chance. It doesn't take much of a push from you guys to get me to quickly watch a film I've been neglecting. Well, if you have a Hawksian view entering your first viewing, you may not like it that much. It's my favorite Gary Cooper performance. Coop is one of the most expressive actors I've seen to date; his expressiveness always feels genuine to me. I greatly enjoy his absorption of his "friends'" treatment of him and the deed at hand. I find him to be very strong in a quiet, dignified way. Thanks Frank, I knew I could trust you to show me the ropes around here. Now I'll follow your advise and maybe one day I can be as popular as you around here. Thanks! You don't want me showing you the ropes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Film_Fatale Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 I'm sure it comes as no surprise that I haven't watched that one yet. I'm actually curious about the film because of Double G and because so many people dog on it as one of the worst films to win Best Picture. It isn't really a bad picture, not at all, but I'd agree there were other movies that year which would have been more worthy of the Oscar. Coop is one of the most expressive actors I've seen to date; his expressiveness always feels genuine to me. I greatly enjoy his absorption of his "friends'" treatment of him and the deed at hand. I find him to be very strong in a quiet, dignified way. Wow, it's so odd to hear Frank say good things about Coop. You don't want me showing you the ropes. It might be kind of an odd experience, I would agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissGoddess Posted November 23, 2008 Author Share Posted November 23, 2008 > {quote:title=FrankGrimes wrote:}{quote} > > Isn't it odd----well, I am odd---but John Wayne looks like Barbara Stanwyck in that screeshot! They could be brother and sister! I think it's a pity they didn't make a movie together when they were older. I can see them doing a scene similar to the kind Wayne did with Pat Neal in In Harm's Way---very adult, humorous but very sensual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Film_Fatale Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 Isn't it odd----well, I am odd---but John Wayne looks like Barbara Stanwyck in that screeshot! They could be brother and sister! Mmmmmmmm. Don't think so.... I think it's a pity they didn't make a movie together when they were older. I can see them doing a scene similar to the kind Wayne did with Pat Neal in In Harm's Way---very adult, humorous but very sensual. *That* I would have liked to see. B-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissGoddess Posted November 23, 2008 Author Share Posted November 23, 2008 Hello, MoloMacao! Or should I call you The Colonel, since we're visiting the South? > > > We're all still waiting in the Gloria thread for his thoughts on *In A Lonely Place* and how he's going to put Laurel more in the "hot seat." Imagine leaving us for months with a teaser like that!!! > In the "hot seat"? Interesting. I've always been somewhat so-so about Gloria's character in that movie. I don't like that she proceeds from assurance to confusion and fear. It's been a while since I last saw the movie but I kept thinking that at the time she started to lose control is just when I would have become most certain and acted accordingly, but I'm probably wrong. I never cared for wishy-washy dames in the movies. > > > It's probably more grittier than Charleston. Richmond does have a lot of intact Victorian neighborhoods. They still look like pretty much like this: > > > What a lovely picture! I grew up in a very historic, Victorian-era town in Texas and our house was one of its oldest. It's now a bed and breakfast (if it's still operating---these days, you can't be sure). > > It has some modern touches though. I used to live around the corner from here: > > > That picture makes me think of Miami for some reason. > It's the country outside the city where I now live and where I grew up that is more fascinating to me from an historical perspective. I'll go into it more later. > I look forward to that very much. > *I'm kidding---not about George,* > *though.* > > I love the double edge of that statement. I knew I was stepping into it with that statement. I did like him in some of the Kay Francis movies. I commented on that in either the thread on her month here or at SSO. I'll back away quietly now. A man should never back away quietly or otherwise---at least you don't have to with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissGoddess Posted November 23, 2008 Author Share Posted November 23, 2008 > {quote:title=FrankGrimes wrote:}{quote} > > Hey! You remembered my words. I appreciate that. It's true, "Laurel" is in trouble with > me. "Will Kane" is also in SERIOUS trouble with me. What man forces his bride to sit all by herself in a hotel lobby on their honeymoon? That's all backwards. Consider that another obligation and promise made---or another nail in your coffin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Film_Fatale Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 In the "hot seat"? Interesting. I've always been somewhat so-so about Gloria's character in that movie. I don't like that she proceeds from assurance to confusion and fear. It's been a while since I last saw the movie but I kept thinking that at the time she started to lose control is just when I would have become most certain and acted accordingly, but I'm probably wrong. It's an interesting analysis. I do remember having some doubts about the way her character reacted. Though in all fairness, I should really watch the movie again. B-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Film_Fatale Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 Consider that another obligation and promise made---or another nail in your coffin. I do wish he would take that seriously B-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissGoddess Posted November 23, 2008 Author Share Posted November 23, 2008 > {quote:title=molo14 wrote:}{quote} > > Would I be kicked off this thread if I said I've never seen *High Noon?* I think it's cool because you have a true, blue classic to look forward to. I don't know how you feel about westerns, but if not especially caring for the genre is what holds you back, you might reconsider. It's not especially all that western in terms of the situation. There are no wagon trains or Indians or nary a cow so it could be small town America almost any time before the frontier was totally closed. I think the drama of the situation and especially the interesting situation with the two leading ladies would intrigue you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Film_Fatale Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 I think it's cool because you have a true, blue classic to look forward to. That's always the nicest thing for a classic movie buff to look forward to. B-) I don't know how you feel about westerns, but if not especially caring for the genre is what holds you back, you might reconsider. It's not especially all that western in terms of the situation. There are no wagon trains or Indians or nary a cow so it could be small town America almost any time before the frontier was totally closed. I think the drama of the situation and especially the interesting situation with the two leading ladies would interest you. That is a very good point. That is part of the universal appeal of the movie, I reckon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissGoddess Posted November 23, 2008 Author Share Posted November 23, 2008 > {quote:title=fxreyman wrote:}{quote} > Here is a great double feature idea... > > High Noon paired with Rio Bravo. > > Will Kane going around trying to get the towns people to try and help him and John T. Chance not asking anyone for their help. That's actually a neat idea! I've never done it and it might be fun. Especially if while I'm watching *Rio Bravo* I put on my Coop hat and while watching *High Noon* I wear my Hawks Stetson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Film_Fatale Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 That's actually a neat idea! I've never done it and it might be fun. Especially if while I'm watching Rio Bravo I put on my Coop hat and while watching High Noon and wear my Hawks Stetson. It does sound like a lot of fun. If only TCM could play them together, that would be so awesome! B-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissGoddess Posted November 23, 2008 Author Share Posted November 23, 2008 I believe there's more to the film than what has been discussed. Many focus on the "friends" part, but I feel it's also a film about marriage, just as Hitchcock's The Birds is a film about courtship. You may as well know now I am cutting and pasting this over to the Coop thread. I'm telling you because I never say anything behind a person's back that I wouldn't say to their face. Yours, Angelica Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Film_Fatale Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 You may as well know now I am cutting and pasting this over to the Coop thread. Angelica I do think it will stimulate an interesting discussion. B-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Film_Fatale Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 Anyone else looking forward to tonight's lineup? B-) What's On Tonight: TCM PRIME TIME FEATURE: STELLA STEVENS *The Nutty Professor* (1963) A timid chemist discovers a potion that unleashes his sleazy side. Cast: Jerry Lewis, Stella Stevens, Howard Morris. Dir: Jerry Lewis. C-107 mins, TV-G *Where Angels Go...Trouble Follows!* (1968) A young progressive nun creates headaches for the Mother Superior. Cast: Stella Stevens, Rosalind Russell, Milton Berle. Dir: James Neilson. C-94 mins, TV-PG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissGoddess Posted November 25, 2008 Author Share Posted November 25, 2008 Some more F.W. Murnau films are being released on DVD in March for a box set: http://www.classicflix.com/murnau-disc-nosferatu-faust-last-laugh-tartuffe-haunted-castle-finances-grand-duke-p-8045.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Film_Fatale Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 That's jolly good news, April!! Thank you for sharing that with us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFavell Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 That's weird. I just looked up Murnau myself. That clip from Phantom was very intriguing, and I decided to get more of his movies. Femme, (May I call you a real name? Is it Michaela? Or am just confused as usual?) I just finally found out how to play movies straight from my Netflix queue onto my computer, and I picked..... *A Little Romance* It is as sweet as I remember. I am now dehydrated from crying, but I wanted to thank you for mentioning it the other day. You brought back some great memories of childhood for me. I always felt a connection to this one, being a smart kid who liked old movies. There are only a few movies that capture stages in childhood right, and this is one of them. I guess I can forgive Diane Lane for making *Under the Tuscan Sun* later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Film_Fatale Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 Femme, (May I call you a real name? Is it Michaela? Or am just confused as usual?) I just finally found out how to play movies straight from my Netflix queue onto my computer, and I picked..... A Little Romance You could just call me Mica for short. I actually tried the Netflix streaming device a long time ago. I'm probably not going to be using much of it until I can be bothered to get something that allows me to play it on the TV (that is connect from my computer to my big-screen TV). And what is so horribly bad with *Under the Tuscan Sun* ? I didn't think too much of it when I saw it, but I was still glad to be watching all that location footage. They did film in Italy, didn't they? Am I missing something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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