Film_Fatale Posted December 6, 2008 Share Posted December 6, 2008 In lieu of any actual screencaps, I wanted to share this with everyone: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Film_Fatale Posted December 6, 2008 Share Posted December 6, 2008 ...and this one, too: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Film_Fatale Posted December 6, 2008 Share Posted December 6, 2008 I love MM's smile in this one: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Film_Fatale Posted December 6, 2008 Share Posted December 6, 2008 This one is pretty awesome, too! :x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Film_Fatale Posted December 6, 2008 Share Posted December 6, 2008 This one seems to be a screencap, but I didn't make it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissGoddess Posted December 6, 2008 Author Share Posted December 6, 2008 > {quote:title=FrankGrimes wrote:}{quote} > > That's very true. She lets all of her honest emotions out right then and there. She doesn't > let them walk over her. It was her plea, but not just for the horses. > Yes...maybe Roslyn was also pleading for Gay not to lose his kindness, the kindness that draws her to him. She wants him to show himself to be as she sees him. And OK, he has to show her he's still his own man and that's fine but then it's time for him to relent and reassure her he can be reached, he can change too. > I know! I love how for once Gay loses his cool and tells **** to just "shut up". Ha! > That's what most of us in the auidence were dying to say! > > **** was really jabbering on. I got the sense he knew Gay was about ready to > leave him in the cold. His incessant talking was a sign of his nervousness to me. > It was! Eli Wallach is just perfection in this role. He has talked in a few interviews I've seen about this movie, the experience of which he seems to treasure. > Poor ****. > > Wow! I didn't expect you to say that. I actually do feel for him quite a bit, but it's hard > to like him because of how he chooses to deal with his hurt. > I do feel sorry for him because I know he really is in pain. He's annoying and scary but it's all very human and he's remarkably responsive. All Roslyn has to do is say "hello, ****" and he "slows down" right away. It's like he's craving attention. Like a child. And people are all small children in different ways when you get down to it. Roslyn isn't the only one. > > > Great points. I'm usually suspicious of the talkers because they tend to be the biggest > BSers. > Yes, but it is interesting that Miller/Huston do give **** some of the most insightful lines. The movie is very non-judgemental and never really "favors" anyone over-much. > I think the death of his wife really does weigh heavy on ****. I like when he says the > following to Gay: > > I could even sell my house. I don't know what I've been keepin' it for anyway. > > I think we know why he's been keeping that house. He just can't move on and I don't > blame him. His house is unfinished because his love and marriage was. > Yes, that's the saddest part, for ****. It had to have pained him to see his house become a "home" for the object of his desire---but not with him! Roslyn is very sensitive to ****'s reaction to what she and Gay have done to the house, to what its become. She even doesn't know how to refer to it at one point: "It's our house...I mean it's ****'s...well, it's a house anyway." > And when **** talks to Gay, it's almost as if he's wishing to take up house with > him. He's the only person in the world who he trusts and he does love him. **** is > the guy who really gets the short end in the movie. Not only does Roslyn reject him, > but Gay leaves him. But that's not to say **** didn't help create his fate. Gay was the only "family" **** had left, probably his only friend. I'm sure he felt betrayed. In the end, it's ironic, that **** is left fighting to maintain a way of life that he never even believed in with the same purity as Gay did---because **** found steady work and seemed fine taking "wages" as a mechanic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Film_Fatale Posted December 6, 2008 Share Posted December 6, 2008 You will pardon me for ramblin' on, but I found more photos of *The Misfits* that I wanted to share here: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Film_Fatale Posted December 6, 2008 Share Posted December 6, 2008 It was! Eli Wallach is just perfection in this role. He has talked in a few interviews I've seen about this movie, the experience of which he seems to treasure. Oh, I can believe that, April. Why wouldn't he have loved the experience? He was very fortunate to work with such a great cast and such a great director. Lucky him. B-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Film_Fatale Posted December 6, 2008 Share Posted December 6, 2008 I think MM looks totally adorable in this one: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Film_Fatale Posted December 6, 2008 Share Posted December 6, 2008 I love the look in MM's eyes in this one... so much passion, so much pain... :x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Film_Fatale Posted December 6, 2008 Share Posted December 6, 2008 This one, I also don't remember having seen on the forums. Gable looks so at ease, it's remarkable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Film_Fatale Posted December 6, 2008 Share Posted December 6, 2008 This great poster is surely one I'd love to add to my collection: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molo14 Posted December 6, 2008 Share Posted December 6, 2008 Hi Bronxie, I want to thank you so much for your kind thoughts. They mean a lot to me. A couple of things you might appreciate. I got my escape fix with Carmen Miranda, My deepdiscount order arrived recently. I got *Weekend in Havana,* *Road House* and The Bela Lugosi Dracula Legacy DVD set. The people at deepdiscount must think I have multiple personalities. *Weekend in Havana* was just the right escapist fare I needed. John Payne, Cesar Romero, Carmen and Alice Faye. Also a great turn by George Barbier as the head of the shipping company. There is such a nostalgia to these films. The music, the technicolor, the fluffy lightness of it all. Carmen cracked me up as she mangled the English language and called Faye a Floozy, Floozy, Floozy! I will comment on *Road House* when I have more time. I was sitting in the dark hospital room late at night. The room glowing a little from the lights from all the monitors, and I started to just think. Then my mind wandered. I played Sinatra tunes in my head. I got to One for my Baby then I drifted into thinking about Ida's version. This led me to think of Bette Midler's final performance on the Johnny Carson Show. She did a version of it along with Miss Otis Regrets and a duet of an old WW II song with Carson. Anyway I thought that marked the end of an era for television. I don't hear a lot of standards sung on television anymore. Anyway...where was I going with this? Talk about rambling! Oh Yes. So now One For My Baby is permanently stuck in my head now. I even sing it when I'm driving around. It's my own version though. I guess that's better than a Miranda tune! I have to be careful though as there is a psychiatric wing at the hospital. Some lighter moments: Mom was extremely agitated because she was tired and they made her stay up and wait for the "pacemaker" doctor. He was tied up all day. She said she was going to tell him off because they wouldn't let her eat or sleep until he came in. Well when he got there he looked totally worn out but he was kind and explained a lot of stuff patiently. Mom told him she was mad at him but that he looked so tired and bedraggled that she felt sorry for him so she wasn't going to say anything. My mom is the only person I know who uses the word "bedraggled". When the cardiovascular surgeon came in and told her he was going to put a plastic tube in her to replace the artery she turned to me with a bemused look like is he crazy? She couldn't believe they could actually do that. After the surgeon explained it further she just shook her head and said crazy world. The surgeon is a young German doctor. I think my Mom has kind of a crush on him. She told me he was a good looking young man. When he was talking to her later that day. She motioned for him to come closer. She is practically deaf. He leaned in and she started rubbing his hair! She said it was sticking up. (It was but still.) Oh well, my mom the 86 year old flirt! I thought she might be channeling Gloria Grahame or something! The surgeon seemed to get a kick out of it. Well Thursday is the big day unless they change it. Anyway that's my mom ramble. Thanks for letting me jabber on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankGrimes Posted December 6, 2008 Share Posted December 6, 2008 Yes...maybe Roslyn was also pleading for Gay not to lose his kindness, the kindness that draws her to him. She wants him to show himself to be as she sees him. And OK, he has to show her he's still his own man and that's fine but then it's time for him to relent and reassure her he can be reached, he can change too. What I like is that Roslyn doesn't say, "it's either me or your job." She lets him make his own decision. This does make him still his "own man," as you say. He is the one choosing Roslyn; she is not forcing him to do anything. But I do believe it was important of her to show herself to Gay. He needed to see her honest feelings. Gay was very ugly to Roslyn while roping the stallions. He was like **** with her, and I think he realized how ugly he was. It was! Eli Wallach is just perfection in this role. He has talked in a few interviews I've seen about this movie, the experience of which he seems to treasure. As I was saying before, the "ugly" character performances can sometimes be overlooked because the audience ends up disliking the character so much because the performance is so very good. I always believe such performances are very important because they help illuminate the "pretty" character. A dual-purpose role. I do feel sorry for him because I know he really is in pain. He's annoying and scary but it's all very human and he's remarkably responsive. All Roslyn has to do is say "hello, ****" and he "slows down" right away. It's like he's craving attention. Like a child. And people are all small children in different ways when you get down to it. Roslyn isn't the only one. Hey, you're right about that! **** is definitely childish and Perce is definitely as needy as a child. Yes, but it is interesting that Miller/Huston do give **** some of the most insightful lines. The movie is very non-judgemental and never really "favors" anyone over-much. This is true. This is why I come away from the movie sympathizing with all the characters depite their flaws. Yes, that's the saddest part, for ****. It had to have pained him to see his house become a "home" for the object of his desire---but not with him! It would have killed me if I were ****. And to make things worse, it's his best friend who is with the woman he desires in HIS house. Poor ****, indeed. Roslyn is very sensitive to ****'s reaction to what she and Gay have done to the house, to what its become. She even doesn't know how to refer to it at one point: "It's our house...I mean it's ****'s...well, it's a house anyway." That made me laugh! Gay was the only "family" **** had left, probably his only friend. I'm sure he felt betrayed. In the end, it's ironic, that **** is left fighting to maintain a way of life that he never even believed in with the same purity as Gay did---because **** found steady work and seemed fine taking "wages" as a mechanic. Yet another terrific point. **** is going to be lost without Gay. That's twice the heartache for him. He really is the most tragic figure in the film yet we end up not liking him because of his personality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Film_Fatale Posted December 6, 2008 Share Posted December 6, 2008 I will comment on Road House when I have more time. That would be great, molo, I'd love to hear what you think of that wonderful noir. I believe there may be a thread in the gangster & film noir forum. Glad to hear your mom is still in good spirits, and hope that her doctors continue to give her the best attention possible. Good luck on Thursday! Mica Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molo14 Posted December 6, 2008 Share Posted December 6, 2008 nightwalker, Thank you for thinking of me and my mom and for your very kind offer of support. There are so many amazing people on this board. You all are wonderful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Film_Fatale Posted December 6, 2008 Share Posted December 6, 2008 As I was saying before, the "ugly" character performances can sometimes be overlooked because the audience ends up disliking the character so much because the performance is so very good. I always believe such performances are very important because they help illuminate the "pretty" character. A dual-purpose role. Yes, Frank. A villain that people love to hate is always good to have. Almost reminds me of someone... people like to torture in the forums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankGrimes Posted December 6, 2008 Share Posted December 6, 2008 I loved your mom ramble, Molo. That was great! Her spirits seem to be very good. I'm so glad to hear this. I'm sure seeing her in a more playful mood also does wonders for you and your nerves. I can't wait to hear your thoughts on Road House. I've yet to watch it, but it's a movie that really interests me. Bowling film noir, how can you go wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Film_Fatale Posted December 6, 2008 Share Posted December 6, 2008 I can't wait to hear your thoughts on Road House. I've yet to watch it, but it's a movie that really interests me. Bowling film noir, how can you go wrong? You can't. You just can't. Especially with Richard Widmark. B-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molo14 Posted December 6, 2008 Share Posted December 6, 2008 *Miss Goddess wrote:* Yes, that's the saddest part, for ****. It had to have pained him to see his house become a "home" for the object of his desire---but not with him! Roslyn is very sensitive to ****'s reaction to what she and Gay have done to the house, to what its become. She even doesn't know how to refer to it at one point: "It's our house...I mean it's ****'s...well, it's a house anyway." *Frank wrote:* It would have killed me if I were ****. And to make things worse, it's his best friend who is with the woman he desires in HIS house. Poor ****, indeed. It's been a while since I viewed it but I seem to remember that ****** (yes it's **** I don't know why I kept writing Gido!?!) had a picture of his wife in the bedroom. When Roslyn is redecorating she moves it into the main room and shows it to him. I thought that was interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molo14 Posted December 6, 2008 Share Posted December 6, 2008 > {quote:title=FrankGrimes wrote:}{quote} > I loved your mom ramble, Molo. That was great! Her spirits seem to be very good. I'm so > glad to hear this. I'm sure seeing her in a more playful mood also does wonders for you > and your nerves. It does. Thanks. > > I can't wait to hear your thoughts on Road House. I've yet to watch it, but it's a movie > that really interests me. Bowling film noir, how can you go wrong? The bowling aspect was a surprise to me. I thought it was great. I used to be a pretty good bowler but I haven't played in years. My Dad used to tell me about his first job as a kid was as a pin setter. I always found that fascinating. Anyway I would love to go bowling with Ida just don't want to get anywhere near that Widmark character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Film_Fatale Posted December 6, 2008 Share Posted December 6, 2008 It does. Thanks. That is good to hear, molo. Anyway I would love to go bowling with Ida just don't want to get anywhere near that Widmark character. Well, I can certainly sympathize with that. However his character is well-matched by Ida's wonderful iron-willed character. She's one of my favorite actors and has one of her best roles here, imho. At any rate, best of luck to your mom again, I hope she will pull through those surgeries very well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molo14 Posted December 6, 2008 Share Posted December 6, 2008 Yes I really liked the film and Ida Lupino. I liked the rest of the cast as well. I thought Widmark, Wilde and Holm were all very good. I had been waiting a long time to see this one. I'll post about it more later. In the noir forum or here or both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Film_Fatale Posted December 6, 2008 Share Posted December 6, 2008 I'm sure we all look forward to a good *Road House* ramble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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