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2 hours ago, LeeDonely said:

Cigarjoe that was Tuesday not Wednesday.

Just to be annoying, isn't today Wednesday? Cigarjoe is talking about Monday? Barbara Stanwyck got the birthday treatment.

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I agree 100%   TCM coulda' made way for both of 'em

 

This frequently has occurred ever since 1994/95 when both *DAVIS & *TRACY share the same birthdate of April 5th & about 85% of the time *BET-(as he called her) gets most of that particular day?

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17 hours ago, LeeDonely said:

Jimmymac thanks for finding my error. I meant Monday. TWY was for Barbara's tribute.

...and Monday was also Ginger Rogers' birthday. It would be nice if maybe they could salute multiple stars when they share a birthday. For example, show films of both Rogers and Stanwyck, maybe one of Ginger's, then one of Barbara's, then another of Ginger's, etc.

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Mainly for the sake of pushing something in front of the Korean spam currently taking up the first four pages of the board, I will counterargue that Cagney is hardly underrepresented on TCM, as opposed to say Tyrone Power. The recent Michael Curtiz tribute was loaded with Cagney peformances, for example.

 

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11 minutes ago, sewhite2000 said:

Mainly for the sake of pushing something in front of the Korean spam currently taking up the first four pages of the board, I will counterargue that Cagney is hardly underrepresented on TCM, as opposed to say Tyrone Power. The recent Michael Curtiz tribute was loaded with Cagney peformances, for example.

 

Well that's the thing he is shown in other tribute's, never his own. 

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Totally disappointed in yesterday’s non acknowledgement of James Cagney’s birthday.  Cagney was a megastar and the most versatile of Warner’s stars in the 30’s and 40’s.  The man could do it all: comedy, drama, musicals, film noir, even Shakespeare!  To not even show one film by him is a travesty.  Cagney is the only major star born on July 17 so there is absolutely NO excuse not to acknowledge his birthday.  In addition, it’s been 10 years since he has been Star of the Month...inexcusable! TCM...stop showing garbage and start paying tribute to the stars who were instrumental in the formation of the industry...and that includes silent stars as well!

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37 minutes ago, Cagfan said:

Totally disappointed in yesterday’s non acknowledgement of James Cagney’s birthday.  Cagney was a megastar and the most versatile of Warner’s stars in the 30’s and 40’s.  The man could do it all: comedy, drama, musicals, film noir, even Shakespeare!  To not even show one film by him is a travesty.  Cagney is the only major star born on July 17 so there is absolutely NO excuse not to acknowledge his birthday.  In addition, it’s been 10 years since he has been Star of the Month...inexcusable! TCM...stop showing garbage and start paying tribute to the stars who were instrumental in the formation of the industry...and that includes silent stars as well!

Absolutely correct Cagfan! He can do everything, can Bogart do everything NOT! But that's all you see where Jim can put him in his back pocket. No respect to the man what's so ever. 

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1 hour ago, LawrenceA said:

How? 

I too would like you to provide some specific evidence instead of making such a fantastic statement with nothing to back it up. Of all the things people complain about on the message boards, the idea that TCM doesn't pay enough tribute to a longtime WB contract player absolutely baffles me.

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I would suggest all of you consult moviecollectoroh's database and see how many times Cagney's movies have played on TCM compared to some other stars of the same era.

http://moviecollector.us/reports/TCM_SCHEDULES_SUMMARY_alpha.htm

I really, honestly, truly with all my heart think this is making mountains out of molehills. Cagney gets played so much more than so many other movie stars on this network. Please look at this database and see that I'm right.

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Don't get me wrong, I'm a Cagney fan as well. I just find that many times people exaggerate with these claims that some actor or actress is being "disrespected". 

Here are the last times Cagney's movies have been shown on TCM:

  • Sinners Holiday (1930)  - June, 2016 (11 times total)
  • The Doorway to Hell (1930)  -  August, 2018 (22 times total)
  • Other Men's Women (1931)  -  May, 2016 (16 times total)
  • The Public Enemy (1931)  -  October, 2017 (64 times total)
  • The Millionaire (1931)  -  June, 2016 (10 times total)
  • Smart Money (1931) - December, 2017 (24 times total)
  • Blonde Crazy (1931) - July, 2018 (16 times total)
  • Taxi! (1932) - September, 2017 (23 times total)
  • The Crowd Roars (1932) - August, 2017 (22 times total)
  • Winner Take All (1932) - September, 2017 (14 times total)
  • Hard to Handle (1933) - June, 2016 (9 times total)
  • Picture Snatcher (1933) - June, 2016 (24 times total)
  • The Mayor of Hell (1933) - August, 2017 (22 times total)
  • Footlight Parade (1933) - July, 2017 (44 times total)
  • Lady Killer (1933) - August, 2015 (18 times total)
  • Jimmy the Gent (1934) - April, 2018 (19 times total)
  • He Was Her Man (1934) - June, 2016 (14 times total)
  • Here Comes the Navy (1934) - February, 2015 (22 times total)
  • The St. Louis Kid (1934) - June, 2016 (10 times total)
  • Devil Dogs of the Air (1935) - June, 2016 (13 times total)
  • "G" Men (1935) - February, 2017 (30 times total)
  • The Irish In Us (1935) - July, 2016 (20 times total)
  • A Midsummer Night's Dream (1935) - August, 2018 (53 times total)
  • Frisco Kid (1935) - July, 2017 (13 times total)
  • Ceiling Zero (1936) -  never shown
  • Great Guy (1936) - never shown
  • Something to Sing About (1937) - October, 2016 (10 times total)
  • Boy Meets Girl (1938) - June, 2014 (20 times total)
  • Angels with Dirty Faces (1938) - December, 2009 (51 times total)
  • The Oklahoma Kid (1939) - July, 2017 (26 times total)
  • Each Dawn I Die (1939) - January, 2017 (32 times total)
  • The Roaring Twenties (1939) - August, 2017 (42 times total)
  • The Fighting 69th (1940) - March, 2018 (34 times total)
  • Torrid Zone (1940) - June, 2015 (29 times total)
  • City for Conquest (1940) - July, 2017 (27 times total)
  • The Strawberry Blonde (1941) - December, 2017 (41 times total)
  • The Bride Came C.O.D. (1941) - June, 2016 (37 times total)
  • Captains of the Clouds (1942) - April, 2018 (37 times total)
  • Yankee Doodle Dandy (1942) - July, 2018 (90 times total)
  • Johnny Come Lately (1943) - never shown
  • Blood On the Sun (1945) - October, 2005 (4 times total)
  • 13 Rue Madeleine (1947) - April, 2013 (2 times total)
  • The Time of Your Life (1948) - September, 2017 (20 times total)
  • White Heat (1949) - March, 2018 (75 times total)
  • Kiss Tomorrow Goodbye (1950) - never shown
  • The West Point Story (1950) - August, 2018 (23 times total)
  • Come Fill the Cup (1951) - never shown
  • What Price Glory? (1952) - July, 2013 (1 time total)
  • A Lion Is in the Streets (1953) - October, 2017 (4 times total)
  • Run for Cover (1955) - April, 1997 (1 time total)
  • Love Me or Leave Me (1955) - April, 2018 (58 times total)
  • The Seven Little Foys (1955) - November, 2014 (8 times total)
  • Mister Roberts (1955) - May, 2018 (43 times total)
  • Tribute to a Bad Man (1956) - September, 2015 (17 times total)
  • These Wilder Years (1956) - July, 2018 (22 times total)
  • Man of a Thousand Faces (1957) - May, 2012 (10 times total)
  • Never Steal Anything Small (1959) - never shown
  • Shake Hands with the Devil (1959) - August, 2017 (12 times total)
  • The Gallant Hours (1960) - August, 2017 (12 times total)
  • One, Two, Three (1961) - August, 2012 (29 times total)
  • Ragtime (1981) - June, 2002 (3 times total)
  • Terrible Joe Moran (1984) - never shown

Do with this info what you will.

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Wow, Lawrence, you're fast! This thread got me so worked up, I was going through the database with a pen and a sheet of paper and compiling this same data. I'd gotten up to The St. Louis Kid and thought I'd check in. Glad I didn't continue on with every Cagney movie before learning you'd already provided us that information.

Now, all you people (or if you're actually the same person) who think Cagney is underrepresented, look at those numbers and then compare them to the times Tyrone Power's movies have aired on TCM.

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Lawrence...those are impressive numbers.  However, Cagney’s early films from the 1930’s are underplayed.  Again, look at movies which have been played 20 times...sounds like a lot, but TCM has been on the air for almost 25 years now.  That equals out to once every 5 years!  And then you have Yankee Doodle Dandy, which is constantly being shown.  Cagney fans want to see treasures from the vault...some of the early comedies, etc.  Sewhite, I take it you are a Tyrone Power fan. He was a fine actor.  You have a beef.  That’s my point.  There are so many fine actors who were integral in the silent/early/golden era of film...let’s show them!  How many times has TCM shown The Razor’s Edge?  The Eddy Duchin Story?  The Mark of Zorro?  But yet, they give broadcast time to 1983’s Swing Shift with Goldie Hawn...neither a classic nor a good film.  I would rather see Tyrone Power, William Holden, Robert Taylor, and, of course, James Cagney.  In addition, pay tribute to character actors and silent film greats.  Let’s relive the past and educate the future movie fans...that is TCM’s mission.  I don’t want them to forget it.  I don’t want TCM to go the way of AMC...please!

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