CineMaven Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 ?I'm feeling faint from the testosterone levels here...? - < JackFavell > Breathe...breathe! Get a grip, Jaxxxx. You act like you?ve never seen four gorgeous hunk o? men, all dirty and sweaty in one sitting before. Hmmm...hey, my pulse just quickened. ?This is one you recommended for a more benign Bob, but thanks for the action-label 'warning', because you're right, I don't normally like these kinds of films. And I can't believe Ralph is part of the cast (and what a cast!) But then again, I was shocked to see him in ?ROSEMARY'S BABY?.? - < Bronxgirl > So you like Ralphie boy, ey? Why. (Truly, no sarcasm...just asking). He and Melvyn Douglas grew on me as they got older. I do like Ralphie's voice though. "You and CineMaven should watch 'The Professionals.' I think you might find it entertaining, even though it's a real 'action' western. There is still camaraderie and friendship and Robbie ( :x ) is playing another of his 'sweetie' roles (he cares gently for horses, just like Ben...it's a real Ben Johnson role, actually)." - < Miss Goddess > Thanxx for the recommendation, Miss G. But believe it or not, my family saw that in the movies when it came out. I don't remember the details so it's probably worth another look. I love action in Westerns. (No talk...talk...talk, psychological stuff. Shoot 'em up & ride hard...fast). I think that's the only way to go with a Western. (Yeah, I'll say differently in the next ramble). And who can re- sist four...five gorgeous hunks of dirty, sweaty, rugged men riding horses and...oh boy, there goes my pulse again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFavell Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 Turn the sound down for the **** doobys and try watching that way...the movie changes a bit toward the end. Better yet, just go to the kitchen or order take out while the bicycle scene is going on, and then eat it while the **** part is happening. Jason Robards was WONDERFUL in OUATITW. He is the main reason I liked the movie - this is one of his most humane roles, there is none of that Eugene O'Neill drunken, nasty, sharp tongued, poetic stuff going on here....although he is superb at it. He is really, really warm and gentle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
movieman1957 Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 The problem with "Raindrops" is that it is in the wrong movie. It probably would have fit better in something like "The Sterile Cuckoo." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissGoddess Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 > {quote:title=movieman1957 wrote:}{quote} > The problem with "Raindrops" is that it is in the wrong movie. It probably would have fit better in something like "The Sterile Cuckoo." HA!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronxgirl48 Posted August 15, 2010 Share Posted August 15, 2010 > {quote:title=JackFavell wrote:}{quote} > Turn the sound down for the **** doobys and try watching that way...the movie changes a bit toward the end. > Better yet, just go to the kitchen or order take out while the bicycle scene is going on, and then eat it while the **** part is happening. I was munching on a bowl of Special K when the ****-doos came on and I nearly spilled the cereal onto my Pepto-Bismol pink-flamingo Florida living room carpet. A flake almost stuck in my throat. > > Jason Robards was WONDERFUL in OUATITW. He is the main reason I liked the movie - this is one of his most humane roles, there is none of that Eugene O'Neill drunken, nasty, sharp tongued, poetic stuff going on here....although he is superb at it. He is really, really warm and gentle. I've never seen Jason Robards warm and gentle, so this will be quite an experience for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFavell Posted August 15, 2010 Share Posted August 15, 2010 Maybe your carpet is trying to tell you something - drink Pepto when watching Butch and Sundance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lzcutter Posted August 15, 2010 Share Posted August 15, 2010 *I've never seen Jason Robards warm and gentle, so this will be quite an experience for me.* You want to see Jason Robards warm and gentle, Bronxie? In addition to *OUATITW* be sure to check out *The Ballad of Cable Hogue* with Robards, Stella Stevens and David Warner. It's the gentlest film Peckinpah ever made and Robards is great in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronxgirl48 Posted August 15, 2010 Share Posted August 15, 2010 > {quote:title=JackFavell wrote:}{quote} > Maybe your carpet is trying to tell you something - drink Pepto when watching Butch and Sundance? HA! And when I try to watch another George Roy Hill movie, THE STING? That's one more I've never been able to get through, and I love Robert Shaw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronxgirl48 Posted August 15, 2010 Share Posted August 15, 2010 > {quote:title=lzcutter wrote:}{quote} > *I've never seen Jason Robards warm and gentle, so this will be quite an experience for me.* > > You want to see Jason Robards warm and gentle, Bronxie? I yearn for a warm and fuzzy Jason Robards. > > In addition to *OUATITW* be sure to check out *The Ballad of Cable Hogue* with Robards, Stella Stevens and David Warner. > > It's the gentlest film Peckinpah ever made and Robards is great in it. I trust your judgement. You were right about how bad HEAVEN'S GATE was. Edited by: Bronxgirl48 on Aug 15, 2010 7:33 AM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cigarjoe Posted August 15, 2010 Share Posted August 15, 2010 Yea, Hogue is the the go to warm & fuzzy Robards flick. We could really use a serious Butch Cassidy Flick but they really don't know how to make Westerns anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cigarjoe Posted August 15, 2010 Share Posted August 15, 2010 Yea, Hogue is the the go to warm & fuzzy Robard's flick. and..... We could really use a more serious Butch Cassidy Flick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronxgirl48 Posted August 15, 2010 Share Posted August 15, 2010 > So you like Ralphie boy, ey? Why. (Truly, no sarcasm...just asking). He and Melvyn Douglas grew on me as they got older. I do like Ralphie's voice though. Bellamy is a sweet square who I could get romantic about, and, dare I say it, even lustful. If I were Irene Dunne and Roz Russell, I'd marry him in a heartbeat. Cary might be more glamorous and fun, but, give me security every time. I admire Melvyn as an actor but never thought he had any sex appeal, He looks like my Uncle Louie from Queens. Edited by: Bronxgirl48 on Aug 15, 2010 7:41 AM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronxgirl48 Posted August 15, 2010 Share Posted August 15, 2010 lzcutter, fred, and cigarjoe, I just saw THE BALLAD OF CABLE HOGUE on YouTube, and have fallen in love with Jason Robards all over again! Oh, my, he is just wonderful, so appealing! Such emotional depth. Also appreciated Stella Stevens, and enjoyed Strother Martin. I could have done with less of David Warner's lecherous preacher. Have some problems with the movie, however -- the speeded up slapstick, and the songs (why? why? why the SONGS??) and felt the ending was rather heavy-handed and long-winded. (how many horseless carriages do we have to see to know that this is the "passing of the West"?) I liked the Biblical symbolism. Was hooked right from the beginning, with Jason hissing back at that gila monster. Edited by: Bronxgirl48 on Aug 15, 2010 4:11 PM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CineMaven Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 ?I've never seen Jason Robards warm and gentle, so this will be quite an experience for me.? - << Bronxgirl >> I loved his father in ?ISLE OF THE DEAD.? Special K & Uncle Louie from Queens & lusting after Ralph Bellamy??? Girl, you are killing me. "You and CineMaven should watch 'The Professionals.' I think you might find it entertaining, even though it's a real 'action' western. There is still camaraderie and friendship and Robbie is playing another of his 'sweetie' roles (he cares gently for horses, just like Ben...it's a real Ben Johnson role, actually)." - << Miss Goddess >> Before I left for Fire Island Friday afternoon, I went to Barnes and Noble and bought ?THE PROFESSIONALS? for my train ride back into the city. As I was riding the LIRR back into the city, I missed my stop at Jamaica b?cuz I was watching explosives go off, Mexicans whooping and hollering and drinking Tequila, Woody shooting TNT-tinged arrows, and Burt and Lee ?rescuing? a reluctant, and gorgeous Claudia Cardinale. Missing my stop added forty-five minutes to my ride back to Brooklyn. As annoyed as I was with myself (a tad chilly out there on those open air stations)...honestly, it was worth it. I couldn?t pull myself away from the action. Now I?m home safe, sound and tired from a weekend on the beach, but I hope to finish ?THE PROFESSIONALS? later on tonite or tomorrow. Hmmm...Lee Marvin is soooooooooo comman- ding. He?s under-stated and self-assured and respectful of his enemy?s smarts. Love his voice and that grey hair. He's a man to have on your side. (And Woody holds his own opposite four top Hollywood stars. He doesn?t disappear into the woodwork). Oh don?t worry...I?m checking out your Robbie too, Miss G. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SueSueApplegate Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 > {quote:title=Bronxgirl48 wrote:}{quote} > lzcutter, fred, and cigarjoe, I just saw THE BALLAD OF CABLE HOGUE on YouTube, and have fallen in love with Jason Robards all over again! Oh, my, he is just wonderful, so appealing! Such emotional depth. Also appreciated Stella Stevens, and enjoyed Strother Martin. I could have done with less of David Warner's lecherous preacher. Have some problems with the movie, however -- the speeded up slapstick, and the songs (why? why? why the SONGS??) and felt the ending was rather heavy-handed and long-winded. (how many horseless carriages do we have to see to know that this is the "passing of the West"?) WHaaaat? No Hildy singin' "Butterfly Mornings" ? Some people have been singing that song for over 30 years... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CineMaven Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 I just finished watching "THE PROFESSIONALS" a film I haven't seen probably since my family saw it in the theatres. I enjoyed it a lot. All four men: Lee Marvin (serious, commanding), Burt Lancaster (not overly flamboyant), Woody Strode (rock steady), Robert Ryan (sensitive) were great. I loved the way the story unfolded and how each man was introduced in the movie. Woody Strode rode with some of Hollywood's heavy hitters with Lancaster, Marvin and Robbie boy. He didn't have many lines, but he didn't recede into the background. He held his own. I liked how it questioned who is the good guy and who is the bad guy. What we see (at first) isn't necessarily what things are. At first I thought the preparation of the siege dragged on...but then I see that it didn't really drag on. It just played out like it had to play out with out a lot of cuts and montages. Preparation. I loved that the men were men; no little boys playing grown up. (Sorry Leo, Matt, Brad). MEN. Claudia Cardinale...she's gorgeous and strong and well...what can I say. You guys can fill in the blanks better than I can about her. But here is what Lee Marvin's character says about her: > "Certain women have a way of changing some boys into men. And some men back into boys." Action? Oh yeah. Tight direction...yep, Richard Brooks. (Hmmm, I think I've got to look into his work a little bit more). Cinematography...beautiful; the late great master, Conrad Hall. Plot...simple, tight: "my wife's been kidnapped and I want you to bring her back!" Freud in the West...nah, no big psychological whosits. Straight story telling for grownups. I'm no big western gal, but I'm sure glad I revisited "THE PROFESSIONALS." Thanx for reading my mini-ramble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFavell Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 Once again, you've made me desperately want to see the movie you have written about. I'm kicking myself that I have never seen it before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CineMaven Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 J.F., it's a mere Barnes & Noble ride away. I'm happy it was recommended to me. It's been a long time and some times when I sort of say..."Oooh boy a Western," I'm happy when I wind up saying: "Oooh boy, a Western!" Just takes me a little time to "saddle up." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFavell Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 I'm glad you are riding the range with us here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissGoddess Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 oooh, TERRIFIC, CinemAva! I'm so glad you enjoyed The (gorgeous) Professionals the second time around! Loved your mini-ramble and your adventurous spirit. And a train stop skipped for Woody is no loss. Jackie, I bet you'd enjoy the film when you get the chance. That, and The Tall T, two totally different kinds of westerns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronxgirl48 Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 > {quote:title=SueSueApplegate wrote:}{quote} > > {quote:title=Bronxgirl48 wrote:}{quote} > > lzcutter, fred, and cigarjoe, I just saw THE BALLAD OF CABLE HOGUE on YouTube, and have fallen in love with Jason Robards all over again! Oh, my, he is just wonderful, so appealing! Such emotional depth. Also appreciated Stella Stevens, and enjoyed Strother Martin. I could have done with less of David Warner's lecherous preacher. Have some problems with the movie, however -- the speeded up slapstick, and the songs (why? why? why the SONGS??) and felt the ending was rather heavy-handed and long-winded. (how many horseless carriages do we have to see to know that this is the "passing of the West"?) > > > WHaaaat? No Hildy singin' "Butterfly Mornings" ? Some people have been singing that song > for over 30 years... I knew someone was going to bring this up, lol. Oh, SueSue, I HATED IT!! (and can I assume that THE STING is also bloated with these "contemporary" warblings? I'll watch it for Robert Shaw, but if I hear anything other than some floozy singing an appropriate 1920's-type ditty in a nightclub, I'm switching the channel) All this being said, I DID actually like the opening theme, with the lyrics, (when we see Jason amidst the credits) What was the name of it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronxgirl48 Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 > {quote:title=CineMaven wrote:}{quote} > I've never seen Jason Robards warm and gentle, so this will be quite an experience for me. - << Bronxgirl >> > > I loved his father in ISLE OF THE DEAD. Junior's voice actually sounds a bit like Dad's. Ah, genes. But I don't think Senior had the acting chops his son did. > > Special K & Uncle Louie from Queens & lusting after Ralph Bellamy??? Girl, you are killing me. I don't understand how Ninochka could have been attracted to big-eared Melvyn as Leon. I just keep seeing her with Uncle Louie. "Oh, Ninochka, Ninochka, it's not twelve o'clock, it's midnight!" Ninotchka: "Okay, time for you to go to bed, Uncle Louie". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingrat Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 Bronxie, I'm with you 100% about Melvyn Douglas in NINOTCHKA where his sex appeal seems, like, non-existent. Seriously damages the film. A friend of mine used to say that "Butterfly Morning" had the fewest lyrics of any song he'd ever heard. Yep, I remember it. Not necessarily fondly. Have to admit I'm not a big fan of Jason Robards, Jr., mainly because I first saw him as Brutus in the Stuart Burge film of JULIUS CAESAR. He seems to be hungover and reading his lines off cue cards. This image was hard to shake. Later I discovered that he was very good in LONG DAY'S JOURNEY INTO NIGHT. He's not bad in THE BALLAD OF CABLE HOGUE, but not my idea of a romantic lead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFavell Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 He's excellent in Long Day's Journey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CineMaven Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 "I don't understand how Ninochka could have been attracted to big-eared Melvyn as Leon. I just keep seeing her with Uncle Louie. 'Oh, Ninochka, Ninochka, it's not twelve o'clock, it's midnight!' Ninotchka: 'Okay, time for you to go to bed, Uncle Louie'." Oh my!!! Too funny Bronxie. (Write that book). I really did enjoy Melvyn in "HUD" and "BEING THERE." And his granddaughter (actress Ileana Douglas) is very good on this web series: "EASY TO ASSEMBLE." (http://www.easytoassemble.tv/episode_pilot.php) ...And to your Uncle Louie: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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