FrankGrimes Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 Howdy, Cowboy Chris -- Be careful of the cowgirl in the stilettos. She said she has a bullet with your name on it. And here I thought it was a peaceful prairie. Now where did I put my white hat... ? I never quite bought Bel Geddes as a match for Mitchum. She just doesn't seem quite right. They are an odd match, but I actually liked them together. Here's Mitchum, a big, brawny fella, and Barbara is a small gal, yet all she's looking to do is protect him. It's really cute. While tom boy maybe the right word for her it also implies an immaturity born of age. That's an excellent point. Amy is on the immature side, which also shows her youth and inexperience. Nothing wrong with it as much as Mitchum might be inclined toward a stronger older woman. And this is where I get the feel of The Far Country. Renee (Corinne Calvet) is the spunky young lass who will do anything for her guy but she lacks a sophistication, i.e., sexuality. Ronda (Ruth Roman) possesses this. Oh, and the sister, stuck up is exactly it. Very "Miss G." BTW, "I Remember Mama" is a lovely film. It being Carolann's favorite may not be a selling point but if you have any interest in good family type films and Irene Dunne then at least one viewing is in order. It's her favorite? That's wonderful! That's a very good selling point. It's coming up this month, so I'll record it. I will say that the write-up for the film isn't my speed, though. How do, Celia -- You would love I Remember Mama. Uncle Chris is played by Oskar Homolka. I would love it? Are you sure? Now it's getting to be a litmus test and a challenge! Barbara Be Geddes reminds me of Nancy Olson in Sunset Boulevard - wholesome, but with acting chops. Very American. That's a superb comparison. Anyone who can play those nice girl roles and make you believe it is a good actress in my book. Hope Lange is another I think of in that mold. All three are really good, but never really achieved out and out stardom. Maybe that's a good thing. They are very reassuring presences. You are very right. The "good girls" are the thankless roles. You need a natural honesty to you, especially look. That rules you out, Bad Girl. You should watch Heaven Knows, Mr. Allison next for Mitchum. I've seen that one! I was excited to watch it since I love Huston, Mitchum, and Kerr. But I ended up being very disappointed in the film. Too dry for me. I was hoping it would be much deeper, but I felt it lacked depth. How do, Lively Cowgal -- Grimesy, you're looking for another Mitchum film? Why not go for Mitchum Lite: breezy, sophistica-ted like "The Grass is Greener" where Deborah Kerr has to choose between Cary and Mitchum. Or want him a little more rugged but not heavy: "The Sundowners" where Deborah Kerr plays his wife. More Deborah! I like that lassie. I do have both of those films on DVD. All this lite stuff will really have me craving for the dark. Howdy, Fordy Guns -- Is this a stick-up, Stuck-Up? You will probably like Pursued more. It's very dramatic and psychological. I'll absolutely love it if it's dramatic and psychological. Here's my current western rankings: 1. Once Upon a Time in the West 2. The Wild Bunch 3. The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance 4. Shane 5. Destry Rides Again 6. High Noon 7. For a Few Dollars More 8. 3 Bad Men 9. 3:10 to Yuma 10. Forty Guns 11. The Searchers 12. Johnny Guitar 13. Devil's Doorway 14. Winchester '73 15. The Naked Spur 16. The Professionals 17. Man of the West 18. The Shooting 19. The Ox-Bow Incident 20. Firecreek 21. Hombre 22. Stagecoach 23. The Shepherd of the Hills 24. My Darling Clementine 25. A Fistful of Dollars 26. Rio Grande 27. Rio Bravo 28. Red River 29. The Big Country 30. The Far Country 31. The Furies 32. Seven Men from Now 33. Rancho Notorious 34. The Tall T 35. Vera Cruz 36. The Gunfighter 37. Fort Apache 38. The Man from Laramie 39. The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly 40. The Magnificent Seven 41. Hang 'Em High 42. Night Passage 43. Blood on the Moon 44. Angel and the Badman 45. Garden of Evil 46. The Horse Soldiers 47. Wagon Master 48. Hondo 49. The Proud Ones 50. Day of the Outlaw 51. Sergeant Rutledge 52. The Plainsman 53. The Return of Frank James 54. Two Rode Together 55. Cheyenne Autumn 56. Canyon Passage 57. The Painted Desert 58. She Wore a Yellow Ribbon 59. McLintock! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
movieman1957 Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 Is your list indicating you have only seen 59 western films? (I like that the three "river" movies are together.) Re: "I Remember Mama." To be honest it doesn't exactly sound like your cup of tea but it is a highly regarded film so I think one viewing is in order. Afterwards, somewhere on here, you can tell us what you think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankGrimes Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 Is your list indicating you have only seen 59 western films? From the "classic" era (pre-70s), that's correct. I'm very honest about me being new to all of this. I think I've seen most of the "heavyweights." You're definitely the westerns scholar around these parts. Have I missed any "biggies"? (I like that the three "river" movies are together.) And they each have such a different feel to them. Re: "I Remember Mama." To be honest it doesn't exactly sound like your cup of tea but it is a highly regarded film so I think one viewing is in order. Afterwards, somewhere on here, you can tell us what you think. Ohhhhh, that could get ugly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
movieman1957 Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 There are some more but here are some with which you can carry on (if you want.) In no particular order - Ride The High Country - Randolph Scott and Joel McCrea (sentimental Star of The Month fave.) Duel At Diablo - James Garner and Sidney Poitier. Colorado Territory - Joel McCrea and Virginia Mayo The Tin Star - Henry Fonda and Anthony Perkins Gunfight At The OK Corral - Burt Lancaster and Kirk Dounglas Last Train From Gun Hill - Kirk Douglas and Anthony Quinn Union Pacific - Barbara Stanwyck and Joel McCrea Ride Lonesome - Randolph Scott The Bravados - Gregory Peck Yellow Sky - Gregory Peck Warlock - Henry Fonda, Anthony Quinn and Richard Widmark. Maybe not all biggies but I would think worthy to include on your list. (There are some good discussions in there too.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankGrimes Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 Thank you for that list, Movieman. I'll see what I can do to watch some of those. Ride Lonesome and The Tin Star are the two that interest me the most. Of the group, I'd say Ride the High Country would be the "biggest." I'm going to try and watch two westerns per ten films I watch. Blood on the Moon and Rancho Notorious are the two I've most recently watched. Before that it was The Tall T, Canyon Passage, and The Painted Desert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
movieman1957 Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 You have done well on your own list. Little gems can be found along the way now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankGrimes Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 Little gems can be found along the way now. That's what I'm looking forward to. Devil's Doorway was that to me and I have really enjoyed the Boetticher-Scott westerns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fxreyman Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 What ya doin'???? You been lookin' and copyin' my lists?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankGrimes Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 Howdy, Rey! What ya doin'???? Watching and talking some film noir and westerns. Do you have any western suggestions for me? I'm speaking of the "classic" era (pre-70s). You been lookin' and copyin' my lists?? Always! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CineMaven Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 I absolutely love "WARLOCK." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
movieman1957 Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 The relationship between Fonda and Quinn may be one of the most unusual in film. No matter the underlying characteristics it is interesting. Widmark is really good too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissGoddess Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 I always forget Widmark is in Warlock! Ha. Favorite Widmark westerns: *Garden of Evil* (I love his end scene) *Cheyenne Autumn* *Alvarez Kelly* *The Way West* *The Last Wagon* *Two Rode Together* *The Alamo* *Warlock* *The Law and Jake Wade* *Yellow Sky* I haven't seen *Broken Lance*, or if I have, I've forgotten most of it. Edited by: MissGoddess on Oct 6, 2010 10:19 AM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CineMaven Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 I would agree with that. I think of Hodiak and Corey in "DESERT FURY." Love Dorothy Malone in it and Widmark's scene getting his finger cut is harrowing. I love this and "DUEL AT DIABLO" as well. Nice coupla stories criss-cross in that one. And that Garner looks soooo rugged doesn't hurt either! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFavell Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 I cannot understand how you guys see all these movies! I will never catch up. My list of movies to watch runs from here to the painted desert... and back again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissGoddess Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 You're not alone. I feel like I'm behind myself. Mostly I'm falling back on my memory because I've seen most of these movies a long time ago. The last complete film I actually sat down and watched was *Blood on the Moon*. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
movieman1957 Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 I'm old. I've had plenty of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CineMaven Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 I don't sleep. I'm a retired old maid spinster who cut classes a lot back in college to go to retro movie houses, and stayed up late after my parents went to bed. That's how I did it and do it. Come on you two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fxreyman Posted October 7, 2010 Share Posted October 7, 2010 So I took your list of "ranked westerns" and added Chris' list and made my own list. Now these are westerns I have in my library. The ones bolded are the ones you both mentioned. I have a fairly good collection of westerns, but I'd really like to get my hands on some of the better Glenn Ford westerns of the 50's. VHS *Angel and the Badman* 1947 Bite the Bullet 1975 Broken Lance 1953 City Slickers 1990 Comes a Horseman 1978 Conagher (tv movie) 1994 *The Gunfighter* 1950 Lonely Are the Brave 1962 *The Naked Spur* 1953 Rough Riders 1995 The Sundowners 1960 *Union Pacific* 1939 DVD The Alamo 1960 Bad Day at Black Rock 1955 The Ballad of Cable Hogue 1970 *The Big Country* 1959 Blazing Saddles 1974 Buchanan Rides Alone 1958 Butch Cassidy & the Sundance Kid 1969 Chisum 1970 Comanche Station 1960 The Cowboys 1972 Dances With Wolves 1990 Decision at Sundown 1957 Dodge City 1940 The Electric Horseman 1979 El Dorado 1967 *Fort Apache* 1948 Gettysburg 1993 Giant 1956 Glory 1989 *The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly* 1966 *The Gunfight at the O.K. Corral* 1957 How the West Was Won 1962 Hud 1963 Jeremiah Johnson 1972 Junior Bonner 1972 The Last of the Mohicans 1992 Legends of the Fall 1994 Little Big Man 1970 Lone Star 1996 *The Magnificent Seven* 1960 *The Man From Laramie* 1955 *The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance* 1962 *McLintock!* 1963 *My Darling Clementine* 1946 *Once Upon a Time in the West* 1969 Open Range 2003 The Outlaw Josey Wales 1976 *The Ox-Bow Incident* 1943 Pat Garrett and Billy the Kid 1973 *The Professionals* 1966 Red River 1948 *Ride Lonesome* 1959 *Ride the High Country* 1962 *Rio Bravo* 1959 *Rio Grande* 1950 *The Searchers* 1956 *She Wore a Yellow Ribbon* 1949 The Shootist 1976 *Stagecoach* 1939 Support Your Local Sheriff! 1969 *The Tall T* 1957 They Died With Their Boots On 1942 The Treasure of the Sierra Madre 1948 Three Godfathers 1948 Tom Horn 1979 True Grit 1969 *The Wild Bunch* 1969 Will Penny 1968 *Winchester ?73* 1950 Wyatt Earp 1994 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fxreyman Posted October 7, 2010 Share Posted October 7, 2010 Sorry...... double post So I took your list of "ranked westerns" and added Chris' list and made my own list. Now these are westerns I have in my library. The ones bolded are the ones you both mentioned. I have a fairly good collection of westerns, but I'd really like to get my hands on some of the better Glenn Ford westerns of the 50's. VHS *Angel and the Badman* 1947 Bite the Bullet 1975 Broken Lance 1953 City Slickers 1990 Comes a Horseman 1978 Conagher (tv movie) 1994 *The Gunfighter* 1950 Lonely Are the Brave 1962 *The Naked Spur* 1953 Rough Riders 1995 The Sundowners 1960 *Union Pacific* 1939 DVD The Alamo 1960 Bad Day at Black Rock 1955 The Ballad of Cable Hogue 1970 *The Big Country* 1959 Blazing Saddles 1974 Buchanan Rides Alone 1958 Butch Cassidy & the Sundance Kid 1969 Chisum 1970 Comanche Station 1960 The Cowboys 1972 Dances With Wolves 1990 Decision at Sundown 1957 Dodge City 1940 The Electric Horseman 1979 El Dorado 1967 *Fort Apache* 1948 Gettysburg 1993 Giant 1956 Glory 1989 *The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly* 1966 *The Gunfight at the O.K. Corral* 1957 How the West Was Won 1962 Hud 1963 Jeremiah Johnson 1972 Junior Bonner 1972 The Last of the Mohicans 1992 Legends of the Fall 1994 Little Big Man 1970 Lone Star 1996 *The Magnificent Seven* 1960 *The Man From Laramie* 1955 *The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance* 1962 *McLintock!* 1963 *My Darling Clementine* 1946 *Once Upon a Time in the West* 1969 Open Range 2003 The Outlaw Josey Wales 1976 *The Ox-Bow Incident* 1943 Pat Garrett and Billy the Kid 1973 *The Professionals* 1966 Red River 1948 *Ride Lonesome* 1959 *Ride the High Country* 1962 *Rio Bravo* 1959 *Rio Grande* 1950 *The Searchers* 1956 *She Wore a Yellow Ribbon* 1949 The Shootist 1976 *Stagecoach* 1939 Support Your Local Sheriff! 1969 *The Tall T* 1957 They Died With Their Boots On 1942 The Treasure of the Sierra Madre 1948 Three Godfathers 1948 Tom Horn 1979 True Grit 1969 *The Wild Bunch* 1969 Will Penny 1968 *Winchester ?73* 1950 Wyatt Earp 1994 Edited by: fxreyman on Oct 7, 2010 12:14 AM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankGrimes Posted October 7, 2010 Share Posted October 7, 2010 Howdy, Rey -- I've got about 130 westerns on DVD and I'd say I've watched about 40% of them. I'm slowly getting there. Are there any westerns from the classic (pre-70s) era that you'd recommend? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
movieman1957 Posted October 7, 2010 Share Posted October 7, 2010 130? I doubt I have that many. Now I have to go home and count. I'd say with that many you're going to be busy for awhile. I should figure how many I've seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissGoddess Posted October 7, 2010 Share Posted October 7, 2010 I'll try to update my lists of what I have this weekend. I'm sure I have well over a hundered westerns on DVD only because of a couple of "mega collections" like the John Wayne set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankGrimes Posted October 7, 2010 Share Posted October 7, 2010 130? I doubt I have that many. Now I have to go home and count. I'd say with that many you're going to be busy for awhile. It's like Fordy Guns said, I have 64 Wayne films on DVD, so that alone bumps my total. Then you throw in John Ford and Gary Cooper and it jumps up some more. When I first started collecting DVDs, it was westerns that I looked to get after my Hitchcock quest. This was before I really got into film noir. So, for me, I got an early jump on westerns. I should figure how many I've seen. Now that would be an awesome list. Here ya go: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Western_films Look at how they categorize Rancho Notorious. I didn't think it was that kind of western, at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
movieman1957 Posted October 7, 2010 Share Posted October 7, 2010 >Look at how they categorize Rancho Notorious. I didn't think it was that kind of western, at all. Now, that is funny. If I have to categorize them even more finely it might be more than I could do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
movieman1957 Posted October 7, 2010 Share Posted October 7, 2010 I went through that list and off of what I remember (and keeping in mind that his list isn't complete which I can verify) I have seen 226 of those movies through the 60s since that was your cut off. There are several I can think of right away that aren't on his list. There are also several I wouldn't have classified as westerns though they are set in that form. Comedies he listed like "Go West" by the Marx Brothers and "Ride 'Em Cowboy" from Abbott and Costello would be comedies for me. Maybe I'll get time to go through my own list this weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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