Film_Fatale Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 I actually looked up the TCM schedule, and they have it listed the same as always... B&W. Not that I trust the schedule completely, either. Yes, I did notice that. And I also mentioned it in the other thread I started (in Hot Topics) earlier today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFavell Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 I'll check it out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Film_Fatale Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 Glad you were able to check it out, Jackie!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rohanaka Posted November 24, 2008 Author Share Posted November 24, 2008 No.... I was just carried away by my I-M-A-G-I-N-A-T-I-O-N HA...good thing Grey Guy didn't catch that...I am sure I would get accused ofr being too much of a "black and white" thinker to use my imagination. Once in a while I do use my imagination...it's evidently just a bit rusty...maybe spent too much time chatting up Oxbow and my black and white vision needs readusting. (ha) I do know what you mean...sometimes when I am watching something really good....the "unreal" aspects....like black and white film or even subtitles disappear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFavell Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 > {quote:title=rohanaka wrote:}{quote} > I do know what you mean...sometimes when I am watching something really good....the "unreal" aspects....like black and white film or even subtitles disappear. That's it exactly! I get so completely lost in a movie sometimes that I am convinced of things that may not be there! Black and white lets me create a whole world in my mind, and I think that is why in some ways, it is a better medium than color. So, what color is this dress? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Film_Fatale Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 > So, what color is this dress? Red, of course! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissGoddess Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 > {quote:title=rohanaka wrote:}{quote} > > I do know what you mean...sometimes when I am watching something really good....the "unreal" aspects....like black and white film or even subtitles disappear. Kathy---quite similarly, I often forget that I am watching a silent movie if I get really caught up in it. *3 Bad Men* and Borzage's *Seventh Heaven* are two examples. A couple of random "rambles" from yesterday's westerns: 1. I think Kate Hepburn should have done more westerns or pioneer set films in her maturity. John Wayne's description of her as a "prairie hen" was spot on. She seems so comfortable in the scenery and setting, that I fully believe she would have gloried in many aspects of pioneer life. 2. I never paid as much attention to the scenery in *Rooster Cogburn* but it's just as striking as in *True Grit*. The main weakness, to me, in RC is the script (except when Duke and Kate are conversing/sparring---then it's perfect) and the lack of a compelling villain. The guy they have is just a punk, not even worth Rooster's breath. 3. *Fort Apache* could almost be enjoyed as a western musical. I am just now tuning into how much music and dancing there is in this film! That's all. Not much, I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Film_Fatale Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 A couple of random "rambles" from yesterday's westerns: Very insightful rambles, April! Thank you so much for sharing! B-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFavell Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 I agree about the silents, Miss G. I don't even realize it after a few minutes. Re: Kate Hepburn playing in westerns- isn't it interesting how old time New Englanders are so close in nature to midwestern and western prairie pioneers? I notice that the quiet, rugged and downright tough lives that some of our fishermen lead up here are very similar to those characters we see in westerns. I think that they even look alike- New Englanders get a kind of cold, windblown look that matches the dry, sunburned faces of farmers and cowboys from Montana to Texas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissGoddess Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 > {quote:title=JackFavell wrote:}{quote} > I agree about the silents, Miss G. I don't even realize it after a few minutes. > > Re: Kate Hepburn playing in westerns- isn't it interesting how old time New Englanders are so close in nature to midwestern and western prairie pioneers? I notice that the quiet, rugged and downright tough lives that some of our fishermen lead up here are very similar to those characters we see in westerns. I think that they even look alike- New Englanders get a kind of cold, windblown look that matches the dry, sunburned faces of farmers and cowboys from Montana to Texas. I agree completely! Both peoples directly confronted the elements to survive. Both are made of similar, sturdy stock. I'd love to have seen Kate and Walter Brennan in a western. And didn't the pioneers set off for the west in prairie schooners...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Film_Fatale Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 I agree about the silents, Miss G. I don't even realize it after a few minutes. I could almost say the same thing, but the intertitles keep reminding me... if they'd used subtitles instead of intertitles, the illusion would be almost perfect for me. B-) Re: Kate Hepburn playing in westerns- isn't it interesting how old time New Englanders are so close in nature to midwestern and western prairie pioneers? I notice that the quiet, rugged and downright tough lives that some of our fishermen lead up here are very similar to those characters we see in westerns. I think that they even look alike- New Englanders get a kind of cold, windblown look that matches the dry, sunburned faces of farmers and cowboys from Montana to Texas. Agree 100%. Though I like New England accents a bit better (nothing against midwesterners!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFavell Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 > {quote:title=MissGoddess wrote:}{quote} > I'd love to have seen Kate and Walter Brennan in a western. Awww. Now I am disappointed that there isn't one.... > And didn't the pioneers set off for the west in prairie schooners...? Chuckle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFavell Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 > {quote:title=Film_Fatale wrote:}{quote} > > Agree 100%. Though I like New England accents a bit better (nothing against midwesterners!) I tend to like the midwestern accent better- just because that's what I grew up with, and it seems a little gentler to me. These yankees up here are really tough! I am not kidding! Message was edited by: JackFavell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Film_Fatale Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 I tend to like the midwestern accent better- just because that's what I grew up with, and it seems a little gentler to me. These yankees up here are really tough! I am not kidding! I guess where you grow up has a lot to do with it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankGrimes Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 No.... I was just carried away by my I-M-A-G-I-N-A-T-I-O-N HA...good thing Grey Guy didn't catch that...I am sure I would get accused ofr being too much of a "black and white" thinker to use my imagination. I'm lurking, Quiet Gal, so be careful. Boo! I actually think the "black and white" crowd is more imaginative than the "grey" crowd. They seem to be more romantic and idealistic with grander visions. Us grey-types tend to anchor ourselves down in humanity. That's meant to be a knock on myself, by the way. I tend to look for the beauty in people, as flawed and as different as we all may be. Smudges and stains aren't pretty to most, though. They are seen as eyesores. To me, they are signs of life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissGoddess Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 > {quote:title=FrankGrimes wrote:}{quote}> > I actually think the "black and white" crowd is more imaginative than the "grey" crowd. They seem to be more romantic and idealistic with grander visions. Us grey-types tend to anchor ourselves down in humanity. That's meant to be a knock on myself, by the way. I tend to look for the beauty in people, as flawed and as different as we all may be. Smudges and stains aren't pretty to most, though. They are seen as eyesores. To me, they are signs of life. Then you will really, really love John Ford movies---his characters are full of those smudgies and stains! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankGrimes Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 Then you will really, really love John Ford movies---his characters are full of those smudgies and stains! I know, I'm scared. Maybe Ellie May can clean me up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissGoddess Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 > {quote:title=FrankGrimes wrote:}{quote} > > I know, I'm scared. > > Maybe Ellie May can clean me up. Which Ellie May? You know there are at least two "Ellie Mays" in Pappy's films. But I assume you mean this sparkling clean one: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankGrimes Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 Which Ellie May? You know there are at least two "Ellie Mays" in Pappy's films. There is only one Ellie May to me. But I assume you mean this sparkling clean one: That's her! But she needs to roll around in the dirt a little more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissGoddess Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 FrankGrimes, you were aptly named. Is this more like it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankGrimes Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 FrankGrimes, you were aptly named. Is this more like it? Yes! Now she's "clean"! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissGoddess Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cP0utSguXqI&feature=related Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Film_Fatale Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 I actually think the "black and white" crowd is more imaginative than the "grey" crowd. They seem to be more romantic and idealistic with grander visions. Us grey-types tend to anchor ourselves down in humanity. That's meant to be a knock on myself, by the way. I tend to look for the beauty in people, as flawed and as different as we all may be. Smudges and stains aren't pretty to most, though. They are seen as eyesores. To me, they are signs of life. There may be some truth to that, but I believe that people who appreciate the "shades of grey" are also better able to appreciate the nuances and multiple layers of meaning that certain things or issues can have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Film_Fatale Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 Then you will really, really love John Ford movies---his characters are full of those smudgies and stains! One could only hope so! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Film_Fatale Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 *http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cP0utSguXqI&feature=related* I feel better already, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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