Western Movie Rambles

[lzcutter]

*Except for the awful She Wore a Yellow Ribbon*

 

Gee, Frankie, you better smile when you say that.

 

I could take you to task for not appreciating all the wonderful little moments in *SWAYR* or for not realizing it is one of Ford's more gentle films (even though it set against the violence of the frontier.).

 

I could make fun of you and call you names but instead I will let you flap in the breeze of your own making. The other ladies here will have more fun mocking you than I and they will do a better job.

 

See ya on the Frontier, Ranse.

[FrankGrimes]

Straw Dogs? NOT for a while, thank you. I tried to watch that once before and the

suspense was unbearable... I had to quit watching after about 5 minutes.

 

It's a tough one. It's one of the harshest films I have seen.

 

The Getaway's cool, and I remember liking Pat Garrett a lot, in my Bob Dylan phase.

 

And now you are in your Ben Johnson phase. The Last Picture Show!

 

I am interested in The Ballad of Cable Hogue, and Junior Bonner.

 

I haven't seen either of them.

 

Did you know Junior Bonner has ....... Ben Johnson in it?

 

This IS torture!

 

[rohanaka]

What are the emotional moments for you in She Wore a Yellow Ribbon? Who are the

good characters? My favorite characters in the film are the same as Jackie's: the Allshards.

And John Wayne's "Nathan Brittles" is terrific, too.

 

I think SWAYR is a lot more "nostalgic" than the other two.... and that is a part of the emotion for me. In a lot of ways it is about "looking back" while you are moving forward.

 

As far as characters go....

 

I like the Allshards too... specifically.... "Old Iron Pants"... ha. I loved the "playfullness" between husband and wife and the way she LOVED the cavalry (and cavalry life) as much as her husband.

 

And I think the Duke carries off the "old guy who still has a LOT to do before he is done" part really well. I LOVED the way he still loved (and clung to) his wife long since she'd been gone (but not in a "pathetic" way.... more of a loving and respectful way)

 

I also liked the "old Indian guy".... (can't recall his name) It was a small role... but I liked how his character fit into the story. And what he had to say about how the younger men no longer respected the ways of the older men.... which was a perfect contrast to the cavalry guys.... they were ALL about respect

 

Oh and then... there's our BELOVED Ben... :-)

 

But I'm actually far more interested inThursday than Nathan.

 

Oh I agree... he has a LOT more "layers" to him... but I am just saying that the other film is NOT as "unintersting" as you were thinking... It may just be more "sentimental" than you prefer.

 

PS... Jackie... glad to hear your teeth are not bugging you too much... I have only had a couple of root canals... but I won't give you my horror story tonight... let's just say.... NOT among my favorite memories... ha.

 

Calling it a night too... Happy trails folks. :-)

 

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[FrankGrimes]

I could take you to task for not appreciating all the wonderful little moments in SWAYR

 

I want to hear about them! I'm here to listen and learn.

[FrankGrimes]

I think SWAYR is a lot more "nostalgic" than the other two.... and that is a part of the

emotion for me. In a lot of ways it is about "looking back" while you are moving forward.

 

I suppose. It just didn't move me at all. Rio Grande really moves me... A LOT. Fort

Apache doesn't move me emotionally, but I'm drawn to Thursday and the amazing ending.

 

I like the Allshards too... specifically.... "Old Iron Pants"... ha. I loved the "playfullness" between husband and wife and the way she LOVED the cavalry (and cavalry life) as much

as her husband.

 

It's the playfulness that also attracted me to the Allshards. They were a loving couple. You

got the sense they had been together for a while. I also liked how they communicated with

each other.

 

And I think the Duke carries off the "old guy who still has a LOT to do before he is done"

part really well. I LOVED the way he still loved (and clung to) his wife long since she'd been

gone (but not in a "pathetic" way.... more or a loving and respectful way)

 

My favorite moments were the ones with his wife. That's the Ford I like. I liked the character

"Nathan Brittles" and I thought Wayne's performance was fantastic. That's what I liked most

about She Wore a Yellow Ribbon.

 

I also liked the "old Indian guy".... (can't recall his name) It was a small role... but I liked

how his character fit into the story. And what he had to say about how the younger men

no longer respected the ways of the older men.... which was a perfect contrast to the

cavalry guys.... they were ALL about respect

 

I liked what Chief Pony That Walks had to say, but there was no pay-off. It just felt like

it was thrown in there, out of the blue. I preferred the Cochise meeting in Fort Apache.

That had a serious pay-off.

 

Oh and then... there's our BELOVED Ben...

 

But I think Ben Johnson is awesome in Rio Grande. Tyree plays a HUGE role in

Rio Grande. His "Tyree" is one with a past and he must prove himself. He chooses

Yorke's son to help in the rescue at the church. It's a wonderful moment, one that is full

of great emotion. It also sets up the ending very nicely. It's very strong to me, especially

from a family point of view.

 

In She Wore a Yellow Ribbon, all Tyree does is report and report and report. There

isn't much else he does.

 

 

Oh I agree... he has a LOT more "layers" to him... but I am just saying that the other film

is NOT as "unintersting" as you were thinking... It may just be more "sentimental" than you

prefer.

 

I guess.

 

 

[lzcutter]

*I also liked the "old Indian guy".... (can't recall his name) It was a small role... but I liked*

*how his character fit into the story. And what he had to say about how the younger men*

*no longer respected the ways of the older men.... which was a perfect contrast to the*

*cavalry guys.... they were ALL about respect*

 

*I liked what Chief Pony That Walks had to say, but there was no pay-off. It just felt like*

*it was thrown in there, out of the blue. I preferred the Cochise meeting in Fort Apache.*

*That had a serious pay-off.*

 

The actor who plays Pony That Walks, Chief John Big Tree, also appears on Ford's wonderful Revolutionary war film *Drums Along the Mohawk*. You can't forget that voice even some seven or eight years later.

[movieman1957]

I'm going to have to stay up later. I miss all the fun.

[JackFavell]

> {quote:title=FrankGrimes wrote:}{quote}

 

>

 

Is this a recommendation? I didn't notice it last night......

[FrankGrimes]

Howdy, Gabby -- Is this a recommendation? I didn't notice it last night.

 

It's from Peckinpah's Deadly Companions. I've yet to watch it, but it does have

Maureen! She's about ready to slap an innocent guy for complimenting her in the

cap I posted. What's wrong with you women?!

 

Howdy, Cowboy Chris -- I'm going to have to stay up later. I miss all the fun.

 

Did Jackie go to bed yet? And did you see she called you a "fresh guy"? Then she

talked about clawing fresh guys to death with her tiger claws. You better watch yourself.

[movieman1957]

*Did Jackie go to bed yet? And did you see she called you a "fresh guy"? Then she

talked about clawing fresh guys to death with her tiger claws. You better watch yourself.*

 

I'm watching closely but I will try and sweet talk her out of any trouble

[FrankGrimes]

So you're gonna sweet talk a tiger, eh? I've tried that one before. Let me stand back.

[JackFavell]

> {quote:title=FrankGrimes wrote:}{quote}

> It's from Peckinpah's Deadly Companions. I've yet to watch it, but it does have

> Maureen! She's about ready to slap an innocent guy for complimenting her in the

> cap I posted. *What's wrong with you women?!*

 

Men.

 

> Howdy, Cowboy Chris -- I'm going to have to stay up later. I miss all the fun.

>

> Did Jackie go to bed yet? And did you see she called you a "fresh guy"? *Then she talked about clawing fresh guys to death with her tiger claws. You better watch yourself.*

 

I'd watch _yourself_, Dr. Judd....

 

 

Always causing trouble......

 

[HollywoodGolightly]

> {quote:title=JackFavell wrote:}{quote}

> Men.

 

 

[rohanaka]

I guess

 

Stubborn.

[MissGoddess]

It's from Peckinpah's Deadly Companions. I've yet to watch it, but it does have

Maureen! She's about ready to slap an innocent guy for complimenting her in the

cap I posted. What's wrong with you women?!

 

 

That is not true! I have this movie on DVD and its the only Peckinpah movie I can watch without turning away from the screen from the violence (it's his first so even though it is rugged, he's still in a good mood---for him). Maureen and Brian Keith---second only to Duke, Brian is Maureen's ideal screen partner.

[JackFavell]

I will have to check it out. Thanks G, for the TRUE story of that shot! (I do like Brian Keith, too)

[metsfan]

Out of curiosity has anyone seen "A Man Called Horse"? It's a strong film depicting the life of the Sioux with Richard Harris as one of the captured white men forced to learn their ways. What I found most interesting was the depiction of the Sun Dance ceremony(although not completely accurate) which looked real. Does anyone know if Harris actually pierced his chest to make the scene genuine? For those not familiar with this practice, here is the info.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun_Dance

[HollywoodGolightly]

> {quote:title=metsfan wrote:}{quote}

> Out of curiosity has anyone seen "A Man Called Horse"?

 

Hi metsie,

I watched both A Man Called Horse and its sequel, but that was many years ago and tbh I don't remember much except for some scenes that looked extraordinarily painful (unless the cheated the angle or something) but I would not mind watching them again. I think Richard Harris was an extremely talented actor and it's really sad that he's gone...

[FrankGrimes]

Howdy, Jackie Ford -- What's wrong with you women?!

 

Men.

 

That killed me, Tiger!

 

I'd watch yourself, Dr. Judd....

 

 

Always causing trouble......

 

Ahhhh, the title of your memoirs. Poor, poor Alice. She has no shot.

 

I can't believe it is me who is waiting for replies on Fort Apache,

She Wore a Yellow Ribbon, AND Ben Johnson. I feel like Marty. Dr. Judd would not

be proud.

[MissGoddess]

I can't believe it is me who is waiting for replies on Fort Apache,

She Wore a Yellow Ribbon, AND Ben Johnson. I feel like Marty. Dr. Judd would not

be proud.

 

I don't think you would appreciate what I could say about She Wore a Yellow Ribbon

and I don't know if maybe the others are having trouble posting or logging on. The boards

seem to still be a little unsettled. Maybe we should move on.

[FrankGrimes]

I don't think you would appreciate what I could say about She Wore a Yellow Ribbon

 

That hasn't stopped you before.

 

and I don't know if maybe the others are having trouble posting or logging on. The boards

seem to still be a little unsettled.

 

Ohhh, don't worry, the moderators have everything under control. They know what they are

doing. Have a nice day!

 

Maybe we should move on.

 

Huh?

[MissGoddess]

> {quote:title=FrankGrimes wrote:}{quote}

> I don't think you would appreciate what I could say about She Wore a Yellow Ribbon

>

> That hasn't stopped you before.

>

 

Well, you've succeeded at last then!

 

 

> Huh?

 

 

I mean the thead got quiet, so maybe some have another movie they want to ramble on!

[FrankGrimes]

I mean the thead got quiet, so maybe some have another movie they want to ramble on!

 

So long as it's not Ford or Coop.

[JackFavell]

Miguel Inclan as Cochise

 

Painting of the real Cochise

[MissGoddess]

Wow, they look so much alike! I love how Pappy just knew what he was about.