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PLEASE DON'T GIVE AWAY ENDINGS!


professorecho
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A couple of people on the Warren William thread on the PRE-CODE board did not show any hesitation in giving away endings to films in their enthusiastic discussion of a particular title. Though I had already seen the films in question, I beg of all posters on these boards to refrain from giving away endings to movies. Let people experience the films for themselves. Thanks.

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I'm sorry but I must disagree ... and we've discussed a "spoiler policy" before but I'm afraid it's gotten buried in the "mountain" of messages.

 

In order to have meaningful discussions of classic films here, there are times when we want to discuss the decision of the director (or studio) to end the movie a certain way (particularly when multiple endings were shot and/or released;- ) Therefore, while I think (and I frequently do myself) that it's courteous to include some spoiler indication (*** spoiler ***) at times, since we're discussing classic films here, it's also assumed that "everyone" has seen the movie. If you haven't, and the title of the message lists the title of the movie, you may want to proceed with caution.

 

FWIW, I think posting the same thing in multiple folders is also unnecessary.

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I can't see what the point of spoiler warnings are when there isn't a single poster here who hasn't seen nothing less than every movie ever made!

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Well Antar...I guess I'm the only person left here now who has not seen every movie ever made. ;) But, I agree with Path in that because this is a "discussion Forum", it's impossible in all cases to avoid giving away the ending. If people could remember to do it, I suppose that a "spoiler" would at least be considerate...but there are simply going to be times when someone reads right past the "spoiler" anyway.

 

The only time that I really agree that it's important NOT to give away the ending is if we are discussion a mystery or any other movie where the ending is too important to the plot to give out....the kind of movie that it really would ruin it to know the ending if you hadn't seen the Classic yet.

 

Perhaps we can agree on some kind of compromise re. this issue? ML

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I believe some type of SPOILER warning is a good idea. In the two examples I mentioned of endings being given away, they were not in a scholarly discussion of the films, but just thrown out there as if everyone already knew. I don't think that's constructive and claiming that everyone who posts on these boards has probably seen every movie anyway is a sorry excuse for being so rudely presumptuous. I work as a film historian and I am not ashamed to admit that there are many, many movies I have yet to see.

 

Incidentally, I posted the same message on every board so that one board's regulars wouldn't think they were being singled out.

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Okay, I understand...sorry. If you ever want to know whether or not I'm being serious, just remember this; I'm never serious. Seriously...

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Antar, you better go give me holy hell over on the other GIVE AWAY ENDINGS post I so redundantly started elsewhere because I lost my sense of humor there as well. Reasons for this? Well, it's a word that begins with C and ends with pated. Though no offense was meant when I referred to the "regulars" here!

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And you're right, Stella, you'd would never dream of deviating from your straight and true path of serious, frank discussion.

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I'm tryin' to be a nice guy! I used up my quota of getting people angry at me this week when I made a Ruby Keeler, and Chaplin fan almost call for my head! But really how can we have a reasonable discussion about films around here if not by giving a little bit of the ending away. These aren't films playing in the neighboring theater, the pre-code movies are like 70+ years old! I just take for granted that people have had enough time to see 'em!

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No, I don't feel I jumped the gun on it; I think it's a valid subject and should be discussed. If I am guilty of anything it's responding without more of a sense of humor to the tongue-in-cheek replies it may generate. Now here I go again, unless Nick is kidding about a film's age being a free pass to just automatically divulge an ending when the mood strikes. None of the examples cited on the Warren William board were in any serious discussions of the films, they were arbitrarily given as though everyone was already familiar with them. To make such an assumption, and trying to justify it with the excuse that an old or classic title must have been seen by everyone, is out and out ridiculous.

 

The majority of non-classic, pre-code films have had their broadcast premieres on TCM and otherwise have not played in any venue at least since the 1960's. So outside of watching TCM 24/7/365 since they signed on, where was the opportunity for all of us under the age of 50 to have seen these 70 year old films? You can't equate age with accessibility.

 

I think to reveal a film's ending without a warning SPOILER, no matter when the film was made, is lazy and rude, even in the most intensely scholarly discussions. How hard is it to type SPOILER at the beginning of a thread? Really, is it just too humorless of me to request such a simple, common courtesy? If so, I don't think I'm long for these particular boards nor the people who post in them.

 

 

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professorecho ~ In saying that you jumped the gun I was referring to the fact that you created multiple threads on the subject without really knowing how we operate around here. Of course you have every right to start a thread about whatever you wish (within reason *grin*), but the next time you do I suggest you research your point a bit more to make sure it's a valid one. You based your complaint on ONE post in ONE thread. I do agree with you that if someone is to give away an ending it would be nice to post a spoiler warning, BUT, as I've said to you before, endings are not usually divulged here (unless a certain thread calls for it). I have yet to have an ending blown for me.

 

Please don't think I'm attacking you here. That's really not my intention at all. I have enjoyed reading your posts -- you seem to be quite knowledgeable about classic films and your sense of humor really cracks me up. To threaten to leave the boards just because of this is a bit extreme, don't you think? Lighten up! :)

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Maybe TCM should broadcast "spoiler warnings" w/the movies they show...after all, the endings are given away in the actual viewing, as well, spoiling our chance to give 'em away in our discussions. Damn it...

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